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McHibbins 04-22-08 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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The particles.dat is smaller than GWX EDE´s. Why ?
My scene.dat is 4.195 KB, yours is only 1.167. Why ? May you give me an explanation, please ?
Will this affect EDE´s eyecandy and realistic special effects ? Also the waves and windspeed or weatherchanges of GWX ?

Because it is based on the GWX 2.1 particles.dat file, not the EDE file. OLCE2 is incompatible with EDE and will remain that way, for many reasons, not least of which is my opinion that GWX's normal particle effects actually look a lot better than EDE's.

Sorry Skipper,

promise you to read your posts next time instead of flying over them :oops:

onelifecrisis 04-22-08 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by McHibbins
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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by McHibbins
The particles.dat is smaller than GWX EDE´s. Why ?
My scene.dat is 4.195 KB, yours is only 1.167. Why ? May you give me an explanation, please ?
Will this affect EDE´s eyecandy and realistic special effects ? Also the waves and windspeed or weatherchanges of GWX ?

Because it is based on the GWX 2.1 particles.dat file, not the EDE file. OLCE2 is incompatible with EDE and will remain that way, for many reasons, not least of which is my opinion that GWX's normal particle effects actually look a lot better than EDE's.

Sorry Skipper,

promise you to read your posts next time instead of flying over them :oops:

Actually I don't think I had mentioned the incompatibility yet in this thread, that's why I put it in red. It wasn't supposed to be shouting at you or something, it was just supposed to stand out. :oops:

BTW, the other reasons why I don't like EDE are:
- kills the framerate (yeah, yeah, I know, it's a bit hypocritical, but EDE kills my FPS way worse than even OLCE1 on high detail)
- upsets game balance by doing additional damage to the ships (those secondary explosions mean that almost everything goes down with 1 torp)

onelifecrisis 04-22-08 03:22 PM

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I have an ATI card and it's the same for me. AA settings (including adaptive AA) have a big effect. If I turn off all AA and don't apply my sun fix, I have a flat sun in OLCE2. If I max out both normal and adaptive AA and apply the OLCE2 sun fix (not advised) the sun halo takes up half the sky and is totally blinding. :lol:

You'll have to enable a bit of AA to fix it.

With ATI cards, the key combo SHIFT + PG UP/DN seems to allow one to set the sun glare to one's own liking.

:o OK, I'll try that...
What exactly does it do? Do you know?


I learned the trick from these forums. As far as I know, it allows you to smoothly increase/decrease SH's built-in software AA effects. In my experience, it kind of resembles a 'bloom' effect.

So it's basically the same as turning on AA on the graphics card, then. Which explains why nothing is happening when I try it (I have AA forced, so presumably SH3 can't override that).
BTW, out of curiosity, does SH3 save your settings when you exit and reload the game, or do you have to do the shift+pgup thing again every time you start SH3?

Edit: Ah, it's working now... and you're right, it's more like a bloom/blur effect than actual AA. Hmmm, learn something new every day :) gonna have to play with this now...

Jaeger 04-22-08 04:00 PM

hi,
a hint for all stock players: i am using the ubermod with rubinis stay alert crew in a stock sh3 version. i want the WO, when he is on the bridge, to give me a "next contact report" for the complete 15 km atmosphere. here is the link to rubinis mod: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=52

the crew becomes more powerful, they can spot ships in the whole 15 km atmosphere.

OLC, there arent changes to the visual AI of the players bridgecrew, right?

and second: i tried the new feature (weather reports with visual range in it). in clear weather, my WO tells me, the visual range is 16km, but i lose contacts in about 13 km). why that?



greetz, Jaeger

onelifecrisis 04-22-08 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaeger
hi,
a hint for all stock players: i am using the ubermod with rubinis stay alert crew in a stock sh3 version. i want the WO, when he is on the bridge, to give me a "next contact report" for the complete 15 km atmosphere. here is the link to rubinis mod: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=52

the crew becomes more powerful, they can spot ships in the whole 15 km atmosphere.

OLC, there arent changes to the visual AI of the players bridgecrew, right?

and second: i tried the new feature (weather reports with visual range in it). in clear weather, my WO tells me, the visual range is 16km, but i lose contacts in about 13 km). why that?



greetz, Jaeger

The thread says "OLC Ubermod for GWX 2.1", not "OLC Ubermod for Stock SH3". Don't be coming to me with bugs that happen when you apply it to stock! :roll:

Philipp_Thomsen 04-22-08 04:28 PM

You're a very very very bad guy, OLC... :nope:

:rotfl:

onelifecrisis 04-22-08 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen
You're a very very very bad guy, OLC... :nope:

:rotfl:

Hey, earlier today I actually told someone how to edit my GUI to get the draggable chrono back. I actually went and looked in the files and bloody spelled it out to him. That means I've got karma to spend, and I intend to spend it.
:rotfl:

Wilcke 04-22-08 04:43 PM

OLC

...you are just cracking me up! I did try and help by directing the "stoppurh" gentleman to Ebay and just buy a Hanhart!:nope: Its lots easier than messing about with that "file".

Another version of OLC2....wow! Awesome work and such a great addition to SH3!:up:

Many thanks!

onelifecrisis 04-22-08 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilcke
OLC

...you are just cracking me up! I did try and help by directing the "stoppurh" gentleman to Ebay and just buy a Hanhart!:nope: Its lots easier than messing about with that "file".

Another version of OLC2....wow! Awesome work and such a great addition to SH3!:up:

Many thanks!

Yeah I saw that. Shame he had to spoil it by mentioning TC. :lol:
Hookay, I'm spending just a little too fast here.

Progrocker 04-22-08 05:27 PM

Is the OLCE2 compatible with GWX 2.1 Enhanced Damage Effects? The former version wasnt compatible with GWX 2.0, so thats why i am asking. :ping:

onelifecrisis 04-22-08 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Progrocker
Is the OLCE2 compatible with GWX 2.1 Enhanced Damage Effects? The former version wasnt compatible with GWX 2.0, so thats why i am asking. :ping:

No it isn't.
I'd better update post #1.

Edit: I've updated post #1 with detailed information on mod compatibility.

Lopo 04-22-08 06:16 PM

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Well, I have just a little problem with the sun ... all is working fine and OLCE2 is a gem.
I have a flat sun even with the fix. I tried a lot of ärragements for my videocard (GeForce 8800GT) with nHancer in order to have a real sun... and I have it only with application for AA and AF selected but the price is high for the rest of the game!!!

Can somebody help me, please, to have a sun bright and shining because I only know how to sink a ship and absolutely not how to do with these stuff...

Thanks


Here is my videocard parameters with nHancer:

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e1copiehx9.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e2copiefm9.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e3copievv1.jpg

Cheers

Lopo

Do you get a flat sun without OLCE2 installed?

Of course, you're right...

With GWX2.1 correctly installed and the same videocard parameters, I have a big flat sun!
I think that's something with serie GF8XXX videocards and absolutely not with your mod. I know that ATI users don't have the same problem. But I don't know how fix it...

I have an ATI card and it's the same for me. AA settings (including adaptive AA) have a big effect. If I turn off all AA and don't apply my sun fix, I have a flat sun in OLCE2. If I max out both normal and adaptive AA and apply the OLCE2 sun fix (not advised) the sun halo takes up half the sky and is totally blinding. :lol:

You'll have to enable a bit of AA to fix it.

Thanks a lot for your quick answer...
I'll try it after downloading your last version. You are an untiring perfectionist. I like it... Thanks for all :up:

Well, either I have a shining sun with low level of details (low quality of textures) or I have a flat sun with high level of details (high quality). Enabling a bit of AA don't fix the flat sun. Sorry.

onelifecrisis 04-22-08 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Lopo
Well, I have just a little problem with the sun ... all is working fine and OLCE2 is a gem.
I have a flat sun even with the fix. I tried a lot of ärragements for my videocard (GeForce 8800GT) with nHancer in order to have a real sun... and I have it only with application for AA and AF selected but the price is high for the rest of the game!!!

Can somebody help me, please, to have a sun bright and shining because I only know how to sink a ship and absolutely not how to do with these stuff...

Thanks


Here is my videocard parameters with nHancer:

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e1copiehx9.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e2copiefm9.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e3copievv1.jpg

Cheers

Lopo

Do you get a flat sun without OLCE2 installed?

Of course, you're right...

With GWX2.1 correctly installed and the same videocard parameters, I have a big flat sun!
I think that's something with serie GF8XXX videocards and absolutely not with your mod. I know that ATI users don't have the same problem. But I don't know how fix it...

I have an ATI card and it's the same for me. AA settings (including adaptive AA) have a big effect. If I turn off all AA and don't apply my sun fix, I have a flat sun in OLCE2. If I max out both normal and adaptive AA and apply the OLCE2 sun fix (not advised) the sun halo takes up half the sky and is totally blinding. :lol:

You'll have to enable a bit of AA to fix it.

Thanks a lot for your quick answer...
I'll try it after downloading your last version. You are an untiring perfectionist. I like it... Thanks for all :up:

Well, either I have a shining sun with low level of details (low quality of textures) or I have a flat sun with high level of details (high quality). Enabling a bit of AA don't fix the flat sun. Sorry.

Did you turn on adaptive AA as well?

Lopo 04-23-08 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Lopo
Well, I have just a little problem with the sun ... all is working fine and OLCE2 is a gem.
I have a flat sun even with the fix. I tried a lot of ärragements for my videocard (GeForce 8800GT) with nHancer in order to have a real sun... and I have it only with application for AA and AF selected but the price is high for the rest of the game!!!

Can somebody help me, please, to have a sun bright and shining because I only know how to sink a ship and absolutely not how to do with these stuff...

Thanks


Here is my videocard parameters with nHancer:

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e1copiehx9.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e2copiefm9.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e3copievv1.jpg

Cheers

Lopo

Do you get a flat sun without OLCE2 installed?

Of course, you're right...

With GWX2.1 correctly installed and the same videocard parameters, I have a big flat sun!
I think that's something with serie GF8XXX videocards and absolutely not with your mod. I know that ATI users don't have the same problem. But I don't know how fix it...

I have an ATI card and it's the same for me. AA settings (including adaptive AA) have a big effect. If I turn off all AA and don't apply my sun fix, I have a flat sun in OLCE2. If I max out both normal and adaptive AA and apply the OLCE2 sun fix (not advised) the sun halo takes up half the sky and is totally blinding. :lol:

You'll have to enable a bit of AA to fix it.

Thanks a lot for your quick answer...
I'll try it after downloading your last version. You are an untiring perfectionist. I like it... Thanks for all :up:

Well, either I have a shining sun with low level of details (low quality of textures) or I have a flat sun with high level of details (high quality). Enabling a bit of AA don't fix the flat sun. Sorry.

Did you turn on adaptive AA as well?

I'm not sure... where can I, please, find it in nHancer? Or anywhere?
Thanks for your help.

Jaeger 04-23-08 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Progrocker
Is the OLCE2 compatible with GWX 2.1 Enhanced Damage Effects? The former version wasnt compatible with GWX 2.0, so thats why i am asking. :ping:

No it isn't.
I'd better update post #1.

Edit: I've updated post #1 with detailed information on mod compatibility.

very good idea :up:

onelifecrisis 04-23-08 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Lopo
Well, I have just a little problem with the sun ... all is working fine and OLCE2 is a gem.
I have a flat sun even with the fix. I tried a lot of ärragements for my videocard (GeForce 8800GT) with nHancer in order to have a real sun... and I have it only with application for AA and AF selected but the price is high for the rest of the game!!!

Can somebody help me, please, to have a sun bright and shining because I only know how to sink a ship and absolutely not how to do with these stuff...

Thanks


Here is my videocard parameters with nHancer:

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e1copiehx9.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e2copiefm9.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e3copievv1.jpg

Cheers

Lopo

Do you get a flat sun without OLCE2 installed?

Of course, you're right...

With GWX2.1 correctly installed and the same videocard parameters, I have a big flat sun!
I think that's something with serie GF8XXX videocards and absolutely not with your mod. I know that ATI users don't have the same problem. But I don't know how fix it...

I have an ATI card and it's the same for me. AA settings (including adaptive AA) have a big effect. If I turn off all AA and don't apply my sun fix, I have a flat sun in OLCE2. If I max out both normal and adaptive AA and apply the OLCE2 sun fix (not advised) the sun halo takes up half the sky and is totally blinding. :lol:

You'll have to enable a bit of AA to fix it.

Thanks a lot for your quick answer...
I'll try it after downloading your last version. You are an untiring perfectionist. I like it... Thanks for all :up:

Well, either I have a shining sun with low level of details (low quality of textures) or I have a flat sun with high level of details (high quality). Enabling a bit of AA don't fix the flat sun. Sorry.

Did you turn on adaptive AA as well?

I'm not sure... where can I, please, find it in nHancer? Or anywhere?
Thanks for your help.

I think it's called Antialiasing - Transparency on nVidia cards.

Lopo 04-23-08 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Lopo
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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
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Originally Posted by Lopo
Well, I have just a little problem with the sun ... all is working fine and OLCE2 is a gem.
I have a flat sun even with the fix. I tried a lot of ärragements for my videocard (GeForce 8800GT) with nHancer in order to have a real sun... and I have it only with application for AA and AF selected but the price is high for the rest of the game!!!

Can somebody help me, please, to have a sun bright and shining because I only know how to sink a ship and absolutely not how to do with these stuff...

Thanks


Here is my videocard parameters with nHancer:

http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e1copiehx9.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e2copiefm9.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/my.php?i...e3copievv1.jpg

Cheers

Lopo

Do you get a flat sun without OLCE2 installed?

Of course, you're right...

With GWX2.1 correctly installed and the same videocard parameters, I have a big flat sun!
I think that's something with serie GF8XXX videocards and absolutely not with your mod. I know that ATI users don't have the same problem. But I don't know how fix it...

I have an ATI card and it's the same for me. AA settings (including adaptive AA) have a big effect. If I turn off all AA and don't apply my sun fix, I have a flat sun in OLCE2. If I max out both normal and adaptive AA and apply the OLCE2 sun fix (not advised) the sun halo takes up half the sky and is totally blinding. :lol:

You'll have to enable a bit of AA to fix it.

Thanks a lot for your quick answer...
I'll try it after downloading your last version. You are an untiring perfectionist. I like it... Thanks for all :up:

Well, either I have a shining sun with low level of details (low quality of textures) or I have a flat sun with high level of details (high quality). Enabling a bit of AA don't fix the flat sun. Sorry.

Did you turn on adaptive AA as well?

I'm not sure... where can I, please, find it in nHancer? Or anywhere?
Thanks for your help.

I think it's called Antialiasing - Transparency on nVidia cards.

Yes, I have turn it on... in nHancer there's super-transparency AA.
And always the same result. Have read again the thread about NVidia tweaks to SH3/SH4 and try a lot of combinations... but nothing else. I really don't understand and I don't want to annoy anybody with my video problems... so let's play with a flat sun...
Thanks

Lopo

onelifecrisis 04-23-08 10:03 AM

Sorry I couldn't be of more help, Lopo, but I'm glad at least that it's not my mod causing the problem, so thanks for checking.

Lopo 04-23-08 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis
Sorry I couldn't be of more help, Lopo, but I'm glad at least that it's not my mod causing the problem, so thanks for checking.

You're welcome. Good hunting!

Marko_Ramius 04-23-08 12:05 PM

Hi Lopo,

You should try to not use a profile in Nhancer/driver Nvidia ; Just tweak it in general tab. Don't sure if it will fix it but why not try ?

I had problems with last Nvidia drivers and profile tweak so it's why i say you that.

I have a 8800GTS with 169.44 and i don't have the flat sun. And don't need the flat fix. And i don't use Adaptive AA at all ..


OLC : Your GUI seems to work OK in 1680/1050 :up: I just have to understand to use it.


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