A GWX for SHIV?

[WilhelmSchulz.]

I have heard a rumor over at UBI that several(maby at least 1/3 to 1/2) of th GWX dev team has moved over to SHIV and have started to work on a supper mod for the pac. So I decided to come over here to see if the rumor was anything more then just that. Thanks in advance.

[Fish40]

It dosen't seem to be a rumor! Read here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145199



Plus if you search around the forums, there are more discussions about the issue in other threads:yep:

[Rockin Robbins]

Yum!!! Supper!!!:up:

[gimpy117]

Heck I just want that Typ. II!!!!! :rock:

[Sailor Steve]

If you heard a rumor then you're looking at the wrong forum. GWX4 was announced here months ago, and there are many ongoing discussions about it. Mostly speculation, of course, since as usual the GWX team aren't talking, just working hard.

Actually I think (there's that speculation again) that the real work won't start until after the upcoming release of GWX3.

[Reece]

Yum!!! Supper!!!:up:Wonder what's being served!:lol:

[Paul Roberts]

Is there still any chance that GWX/SH4 will be released for Christmas, as hinted way back then by the team?

No gaming present would be better!

[Fincuan]

Yup, christmas 2009 :lol:

GWX3 is coming out in a week or so though.

[Red Heat]

Outstanding news... :D

[Dutch]

Am I the only one wishing for like some sort of news lol? I mean just as far as what they are going to try and implement, that would hold me over for a bit longer. Oh well it will be ready when they say it is, hats off to those guys who do all that work. Your what makes the PC better than the console.

[Rockin Robbins]

Yum!!! Supper!!!:up:Wonder what's being served!:lol:
I was enticed by the suggestion of a "supper mod." Food always gets my interest!:lol:

[Orion2012]

Yum!!! Supper!!!:up:Wonder what's being served!:lol: I was enticed by the suggestion of a "supper mod." Food always gets my interest!:lol:

Never meet a meal I didn't eat, whether I liked it or not.

[Wilcke]

Prime rib, my house next week, in the rotisserie. Oh and the wines courtesy of Navarro Vineyards (http://www.navarrowine.com/main.php). Don't be a savage buy by the case, you won't be sorry! Forget about the silly subs.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Yum!!! Supper!!!:up:Wonder what's being served!:lol: I was enticed by the suggestion of a "supper mod." Food always gets my interest!:lol:

Never meet a meal I didn't eat, whether I liked it or not.

Prime rib, my house next week, in the rotisserie. Oh and the wines courtesy of Navarro Vineyards (http://www.navarrowine.com/main.php). Don't be a savage buy by the case, you won't be sorry! Forget about the silly subs.

Oh joy.

The kickinbak boys servin' up a 'nuther heapin' helpin' ah spam.

:zzz:

[Reece]

Oh joy.

The kickinbak boys servin' up a 'nuther heapin' helpin' ah spam.

:zzz:
It's a weakness Kpt. Lehmann!!:lol:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Oh joy.

The kickinbak boys servin' up a 'nuther heapin' helpin' ah spam.

:zzz:
It's a weakness Kpt. Lehmann!!:lol:

Yeah, they seem to never get tired of that.:88)

[Kapitan_Phillips]

*pulls up a chair*

:stare:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

*pulls up a chair*

:stare:

Good.:|\\

[Paul Roberts]

Just waiting for any news...

Merry Xmas!

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Just waiting for any news...

Merry Xmas!

Sorry mate. We are not releasing any news concerning GWX4 for some time to come.

However, if you still play SH3, we are releasing GWX 3.0 a bit later today over in the SH3 forums.
:arrgh!:

[Wilcke]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all you great folks! Wishing everyone the best in 2009.

[Rockin Robbins]

Ah, spam is quite the delicacy in Hawaii. Served in fine restaurants as a spam suchi! Yum! More gratuitous food references!:cool: We most likely have enough for you Kapt, have a seat and enjoy yourself.

THE MODERATOR SAYS: That will be enough of that.

[Madox58]

As the war waged way back in 1914 or so?
Something happened that said Humans could be something
other then a part of the whole.

I suggest all of you research this.
Learn from it.
And try to understand what it really means.

Merry Christmas.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

For those who still play SH3, we have released GWX 3.0 today over in the SH3 forums.

Enjoy!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145939 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145939)

Merry Christmas to all our friends at Subsim.:up: :up: :up:

[Rockin Robbins]

Congratulations on a release you have all worked hard on for a long time. Sorry you couldn't share in the humor of a "supper mod" without somehow thinking is demeaned the Kapt or the Grey Wolves themselves. It did not, and those who piggy-backed on my original comment were merely having fun with a truly humorous unintentional comment by the OP, not a member, or in any connected with the "offended".

Lighten up guys. We know you've been working hard but life does exist apart from you and your work. Buy some perspective and enjoy life.

On the other hand, for those who haven't played SH3 lately, this would be an appropriate time to jump back in and check out the new release of GWX. You'll find that rumors of SH3's demise are greatly exaggerated. It remains a good game.

MODERATOR WARNING: The Spam topic was settled two weeks ago. Stop trying to resurrect it. If you want to tell people what to do, send them a PM.

[Pablo]

MODERATOR HAT ON:

Hi all!

You may recall that Kapitan_Phillips gave notice on the spam topic two weeks ago, but I suggest you resist any urges to keep beating that dead horse in an attempt to reanimate it.

This is a warning: knock it off.

[bigboywooly]

No news is good news so they say
Type VIIA

WIP

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/Tags/typVIIA10.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/Tags/typVIIA07.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/Tags/typVIIA09.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/Tags/typVIIA05.jpg

[Sledgehammer427]

duhduhduhwhat?!

that looks amazing!

[Paajtor]

wow, great news!:o:up:

[FIREWALL]

Psssst. :shifty: I heard a rumor their working on a GWX for SH-5. :yep:

[Reece]

Psssst. :shifty: I heard a rumor their working on a GWX for SH-5. :yep:Does that include Spam??:lol:

[Sledgehammer427]

mmmmmm.Pan-Fryed Spam mehopes!

[LiveGoat]

:o WOW! Hubba-hubba look at that caboose!

No news is good news so they say
Type VIIA

WIP

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/Tags/typVIIA10.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/Tags/typVIIA07.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/Tags/typVIIA09.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/Tags/typVIIA05.jpg

[magicsub2]

best not to ask tohose questions because then hobo peds start thinking your a troll and start a flame war.

yes sailor steve.

[Dowly]

Just picking: it's not a VIIA, it's a VIIC with a VIIA rear tube, though I'm sure you knew :know:

I'd say it's not a VIIC with a VIIA stern tube, but type WIP. :p

[FIREWALL]

Psssst. :shifty: I heard a rumor their working on a GWX for SH-5. :yep:Does that include Spam??:lol:

And lots of rum to wash it down. :D

[FIREWALL]

@ BBW What happens if you fire that stern tube on the surface ? :-? :lol:

[Dowly]

@ BBW What happens if you fire that stern tube on the surface ? :-? :lol:

This? :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8iqfGn0FQ0

[FIREWALL]

@ BBW What happens if you fire that stern tube on the surface ? :-? :lol:

This? :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8iqfGn0FQ0


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[ref]

@ BBW What happens if you fire that stern tube on the surface ? :-? :lol:
Something like the video Dowly post the link to :D
The eject sequence in sh4 relies on the torpedo tube being submerged, so as soon as it leaves the tube it drops to it's intended run depth, through the hull... I'm still working on a workaround for that.
@Mikhayl, yes, it is derivated from the VIIC I built, but as Dowly said it's a wip, I still need to rework the deck and the conning tower.

Ref

[csargemg]

Hey, give him credit for the solo rudder as well as the VIIA stern tube.

More importantly, the whole thing looks fantastic in SH4. But why the VIIA at all?

[bigboywooly]

Hey, give him credit for the solo rudder as well as the VIIA stern tube.

More importantly, the whole thing looks fantastic in SH4. But why the VIIA at all?

U-32 type VIIA sank the largest ship ever sunk by a German U Boot ( without counting the mine loss of the HMHS Britannic in 1916 (Empress of Britain 43000 tons)
U-29 type VIIA sank the carrier HMS Courageous
U-30 typ VIIA sank the first ship of the war (SS Athenia 14000 tons)

In fact, between them, the VIIA boats combined...

Sank 107 merchant ships, totalling 462,818 GRT
Damaged 2 merchants beyond repair for 13,247 GRT
Captured 3 merchants worth 6,574 tonnes
Sank 4 warships, totalling 24,865 tonnes
Sank 4 Auxiliary warships, for 4,928 GRT
Damaged 8 merchants for 53,997 tonnes
Damaged 3 warships for 73,050 tonnes
Of the warships damaged, victims included HMS Nelson (mined by U-31), HMS Barham (torpedoed by U-30) and HMS Fiji (torpedoed by U-32).

More significant is the sinking of HMS Courageous (a fleet carrier) by U-29. Following this incident, the Royal Navy withdrew its fleet carriers from anti-submarine patrol... a strategic mistake that was not reversed until some time later. This action alone makes the VIIA a significant player in the Battle of the Atlantic in assisting the ascent of the U-Waffe.

From thise thread

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=124253

And remember

It is certainly true that there were only a few made. From what I could find, there were 10 built in total... all of which were put into combat service. Still, 10 boats in combat service is certainly more significant that some other types.

Only 6 Type-IIA (U-1 to U-6, incl.)
Only 8 Type-IIC (U-56 to U-63, incl.)
Only 8 Type-IX (as in IXA, not type IX boats in general, U-37 to U-44, incl.)
Only 2 Type-IXD1 (U-180 and U-195)
Only 6 Type-VIID (U-213 to U-218. incl.)
Only 4 Type-VIIF (U-1059 to U-1062, incl.)
Only 7 U-Flak (U-441, U-256, U-621, U-953, U-211, U-263 and U-271)
Only 8 XB (U-116, U-117, U-118, U-119, U-219, U-220, U-233, and U-234)
Furthermore, although there were a lot more commissioned, there were only 6 Type-XXIII boats that actually sailed on combat patrols.

Now the types above that I have written in Bold Green are implemented in SH3 or in already existing mods. So, given that the VIIA was used in greater numbers than all of these, why not consider it for implementing

[bigboywooly]

Just picking: it's not a VIIA, it's a VIIC with a VIIA rear tube, though I'm sure you knew :know:
Well am sure you know what WIP means Mikhayl
:up:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/SH4/VIIav3copy.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/SH4/VIIav4copy.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/SH4/VIIav6copy.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/SH4/VIIav7copy.jpg

[nikimcbee]

Great VIIa model!

[ref]

A couple more pics.
Now I've got to start importing it :dead:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/ref_sh3/VIIA19.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/ref_sh3/VIIA20.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/ref_sh3/VIIA21.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc142/ref_sh3/VIIA22.jpg

Ref

[AVGWarhawk]

Ref, the detail down to the bell is excellent. Nice work:rock:

[urfisch]

really good work!!!

:yeah:

[Uber Gruber]

Topo..Notcho!

[GlobalExplorer]

Type VIIA, and the other new models boah. Really really looking forward to this!!!

Maybe a bit offtopic, but if anyone of the GWX team reads this, hopefully you did have a look at the water in BoB2? Colorwise it's the best representation of the North Sea I know. You know U-Boats in that pastel water look kind of strange.

BOB2 water shots .. not SHIV :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/striker546/shot_004.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4593/shot273xc3.jpg

[Tronics]

whoooo, finally a VII model for SHIV, and with 3d deck plating.

Awesome work.

[skookum]

My money is on an April Fool's release date. :yeah:

[Hitman]

The big questions in every man's life: Who am I, where am I going to, and when will GWX4 be released? :D

And the two replies to the most asked questions in these forums:

-YES there will be a GWX for SH4 and

-The release date is WHEN IT'S DONE

:haha:

[skookum]

Hey, all I'm saying is that I'm a betting man, and that if anyone were to ask me to put money down on a date, that the date I'd pick would be April 1st. Of course I didn't mention my past track record with making such bets (arguably pathetic). But hey, it's my money!!:|\\

[Madox58]

I do hope you have not laid money on a bet.
There is a date set that I'm aware of.
But I have no clue what it is.

[ivank]

duhduhduhwhat?!

that looks amazing!

agreed!

[Dowly]

Lol... what did Privateer do this time? :haha:

[A Very Super Market]

Some fight with Racerboy...

[trebby]

:yeah: Yes!

Impressive work, great eye to detail!
Thanks and good luck bigboywooly, really looking forward to this one!

Cheerio, trebb

[Dowly]

Some fight with Racerboy...

Rgr that. :har:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

GWX4 will be done when it is done. Tis a big job you know. :shucks:

Some fight with Racerboy...

Rgr that. :har:

Funny thing though...

When Privateer came home from the brig, he was mumbling something about a 'ferret wearing a pink hat' drawing on the wall there in his cell.

I'm stumped. :hmmm: What the heck could he be referring to?

Ahh well. No matter. Back to the welding shops you lot!

[Reece]

Yes Kpt Lehmann, I was told that Privateer had thrown a "Dowly", I think it was Ducimus!:yep:

[The General]

Throw us a bone Kpt Lehmann! Something to whet our appetites :O: A screenshot, a juicy tidbit of info, anything! Have mercy on us?! I spoke to Privateer and he said he'd have a word with you and see if you felt like posting some sorta update. Please, I beg you!! :88)

[Dowly]

GWX4 will be done when it is done. Tis a big job you know. :shucks:

Some fight with Racerboy...
Rgr that. :har:
Funny thing though...

When Privateer came home from the brig, he was mumbling something about a 'ferret wearing a pink hat' drawing on the wall there in his cell.

I'm stumped. :hmmm: What the heck could he be referring to?

Ahh well. No matter. Back to the welding shops you lot!

Awww, dont tell everyone it was me who stole the navy dude's hat! Bollocks, now I gotta disappear for abit to let things cool down.

[Dowly]

Throw us a bone Kpt Lehmann! Something to whet our appetites :O: A screenshot, a juicy tidbit of info, anything! Have mercy on us?! I spoke to Privateer and he said he'd have a word with you and see if you felt like posting some sorta update. Please, I beg you!! :88)

Here you go. FETCH!! :O:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/bone.jpg

[Deep Source]

on www.thegreywolves.com (http://www.thegreywolves.com) site title "GWX Atlantic battlefield IV"

:hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:IV:hmmm::hmmm::hmmm::hmmm:

[Alex]

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8175/chut04.gif... http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8098/nonnon02.gif !

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5940/uglylaugh1.gif

[AVGWarhawk]

Christ, you want a bone? That is a no brainer! Looky here for a taste:


http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1062749&postcount=721

It is visual viagra:D

[Paajtor]

It is...but I still haven't seen a frame-rate number.:O:

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm willing to bet it does not kill frame rates. :D

[ivank]

where is that site based in?

[Tomi_099]

Well am sure you know what WIP means Mikhayl
:up:

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/SH4/VIIav3copy.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/SH4/VIIav4copy.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/SH4/VIIav6copy.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/SH4/VIIav7copy.jpg


....Sehr ... Sehr ... SCHÖN !!! :up::up::up:

[sh3rules]

ZOMG!!!

[Bartolomeus]

A M A Z I N G looking pictures! Great work!

Marko

[Regio Sommergibile]

Two questions:

1) What's that "tube" in the rear? I never saw it before...

2) Given that you already made playable the flottilas in Mediterrean sea, is there a possibility to finally see at least an Italian sub ? I think they "deserve" it...

Fantastic model btw i love the detail...:up:

[woody4077]

:o:o:o:o:o:o

:yeah::yeah::yeah::yeah::yeah:

[Fenris_Wolf]

So guys, any exciting news at all? :88):DL

[Kpt. Lehmann]

At the moment... nope. Still hush-hush for the time being. :ping:

[Captain Vlad]

It's all Atlantic?:cry:

[Kpt. Lehmann]

It's all Atlantic?:cry:


GWX is about the U-boat war mate.

Whatever waters the U-boat splashed around in... that is what we mod.

There are already mods that cover U.S Navy submarine warfare in the Pacific.

"The Grey Wolves" is the nickname that Admiral Doenitz gave his U-boatmen... and that is reflected in the title we gave our work.

A public information release is coming soon... but the exact timing is subject to the demands of real life.:arrgh!:

[Regio Sommergibile]

"The Grey Wolves" is the nickname that Admiral Doenitz gave his U-boatmen... and that is reflected in the title we gave our work.

So again no hope for italian submarines...;)

[Captain Vlad]

There are already mods that cover U.S Navy submarine warfare in the Pacific.

Sure, but after seeing what ya'll guys did with SH3, I experienced a brief 'oh hell yes' moment when I saw this associated with SH4, right before I noted that it was centered on the Germans rather than the fleet boats.

I played SH3 until I heard German in my sleep, but the warmest place in my heart is reserved for the fleet boats, hence my excitement...then dismay.:DL

"The Grey Wolves" is the nickname that Admiral Doenitz gave his U-boatmen... and that is reflected in the title we gave our work.

Could've been used for brand recognition, so I think I can be forgiven for dreaming.

[sh3rules]

Even if they were modding South Tibetan submarines, it would still be worth playing :DL

[Sailor Steve]

The biggest thing that keeps me playing SH3 is that I like World War II submarines. Period. I've longed since SH1 to be able to play in the Pacific again, but thanks to Aces Of The Deep and SH3 I've come to love the German boats as well. Until there is a GWX4 I will have to keep playing SH3, no matter how much better I think SH4 is.

[melnibonian]

The biggest thing that keeps me playing SH3 is that I like World War II submarines. Period. I've longed since SH1 to be able to play in the Pacific again, but thanks to Aces Of The Deep and SH3 I've come to love the German boats as well. Until there is a GWX4 I will have to keep playing SH3, no matter how much better I think SH4 is.

My view exactly Steve :yep:

Although I have SH4 and the Pacific Mods I am still playing the Atlantic Theater. Don't get me wrong SH4 with the extra mods is absolutely brilliant, but somehow when I think of submarines my mind and thoughts go to the Atlantic. I think Clay Blair was correct when he called the Pacific Operations against Japan the "Silent Victory".

[Sledgehammer427]

I have to remind my friends at school (and my history teachers) that the war in the pacific wouldnt have turned out the way it did without the submarines

[AVGWarhawk]

Melnibonia,

Sounds like a you might have a misunderstanding of 'Silent Victory'. Silent pokes.........


Sledgehammer,

Not the time nor the place. Then again, is there ever a time or place:hmmm:

Please keep on topic all.

[Pablo]

Melnibonia,

Sounds like a you might have a misunderstanding of 'Silent Victory'. Silent pokes.........
Hi!

I should think Melnibonian's interpretation is as good as any, given that Blair's Silent Victory was the first large scale retelling of the submarine war that was then relatively unknown, and therefore "silent", to the public at large. As the Amazon says, "When published in 1975, it was the first such account to detail controversial aspects of the American campaign, from the torpedo scandal to discrepancies between claimed and confirmed sinkings."


Sledgehammer,

Not the time nor the place. Then again, is there ever a time or place:hmmm:

Please keep on topic all.I'm sorry, but I don't see anything wrong with what Sledge said.

Pablo

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello:DL
There was no jsgme installing option for GWX in SH3.
but it was all about U-boats. With SH4 you have fleetboats also,
I hope you can install GWX4 with jsgme as any other mod.
:woot:
Captain Vlad = "I played SH3 until I heard German in my sleep, but the warmest place in my heart is reserved for the fleet boats, hence my excitement...then dismay.:DL"

Fleetboats will allways be an important part of SH4.:DL
Now you can have both english and german speech at same time in SH4,
Like with my sh3ToSh4 ENV RFB-om700 one voice file "9" is for german lanquage and rest for english, So I do not think that GWX can take such a dominant role in SH4 as it did in SH3.:DL
True I am sure that GWX4 will be a great mod and I will play it a lot,:DL
but there are allready other great mods for fleetboats and U-boats.:up:

[Task Force]

GWX is over 1 gigabite and thats for sh3 which already had the basics. I dont think it will.

[fair_weather]

You guys need to do Normal mapping and bump mapping on that to cut down on the load times with models like that.

The polygon count on that is probably astronomical. And seeing as how a lot of people here don't have that great of a system (some of you do, not talking about you guys) It would probably be a wise idea to have a stunted version of those highpoly models for the low end systems.

Like using LODs (Level of Detail) or something to that effect.

Have a Light version for the SH3 style rigs (None of the grid work on the hull, it's all in the textures) so you don't leave those guys with crappy framerates.

Just my two cents. Looks great anyways:yeah:

[melnibonian]

I should think Melnibonian's interpretation is as good as any, given that Blair's Silent Victory was the first large scale retelling of the submarine war that was then relatively unknown, and therefore "silent", to the public at large. As the Amazon says, "When published in 1975, it was the first such account to detail controversial aspects of the American campaign, from the torpedo scandal to discrepancies between claimed and confirmed sinkings."


That is absolutely correct. As a young child I was almost unaware of the extent the US submarines devastated the Japanese Navy. All the attention was focused on the Atlantic Theater. That can be one of the reasons why even now I am more attached towards German submarines and not the US ones.

[melnibonian]

Fleetboats will allways be an important part of SH4.:DL
That is absolutely correct.
So I do not think that GWX can take such a dominant role in SH4 as it did in SH3.:DL
True I am sure that GWX4 will be a great mod and I will play it a lot,:DL
but there are allready other great mods for fleetboats and U-boats.:up:
That is also correct. Just to make one thing clear though. It has nothing to do with domination of the game. In SH3 (so far at least) the only option you have is to play the German submarines, so one might talk about "Atlantic Domination" and not GWX as there are other good mods out there. With respect to SH4 I am very happy to see good mods for the Pacific Ocean. Nevertheless GWX is just going to use the game engine and there is not any indication or effort to "dominate" the scene as the comparison between the two theaters is impossible. In my opinion with GWX4 we can have the ultimate WWII submariner's dream. One game engine and two different theaters of operations. Each player can play the one he or she likes (I would say the "loud" and "silent" ones but people might missunderstand me so please see this as a joke :yep:)

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello:DL
melnibonian = "Just to make one thing clear though. It has nothing to do with domination of the game"
What I ment was about Technical Side of game, like, "jsgme installing option"
also sound, will there be german Speech etc in GWX4, if so it can be made so that German speech will not use all Speech files,like my latest
Sh3 to Sh4 Env mod it uses only one Speech file for german voices, so that when you playgerman side you hear german Speech and when US side English.
To say it shortly : I hope that you can play US side also while GWX4 is installed.:woot:

[melnibonian]

Hello:DL
To say it shortly : I hope that you can play US side also while GWX4 is installed.:woot:
Trust me it is my intention to play the US side at some point, but so far I haven't managed to do it. I will do though in the future :yep::up:

[Captain von Keldunk]

"Trust me it is my intention to play the US side at some point, but so far I haven't managed to do it. I will do though in the future :yep::up:"
OK THX:DL Me too:woot:

[Onkel Neal]

Trust me it is my intention to play the US side at some point, but so far I haven't managed to do it. I will do though in the future :yep::up:

"Trust me it is my intention to play the US side at some point, but so far I haven't managed to do it. I will do though in the future :yep::up:"
OK THX:DL Me too:woot:


My humble advice: get a copy of Wahoo: The Patrols of America's Most Famous WWII Submarine. I think if you read that (assuming you haven't already :) ) you will find the Pacific theater very exciting.

As for GWX and US subs, those guys are talented and diligent, but even they cannot do all things for all people. They have chosen to concentrate their energies on U-boats, and their work speaks for itself. :salute: I respect their choices.

There are other modders and mod teams who address the Pacific side of SH4, with impressive results.

[melnibonian]

My humble advice: get a copy of Wahoo: The Patrols of America's Most Famous WWII Submarine. I think if you read that (assuming you haven't already :) ) you will find the Pacific theater very exciting.
I haven't read that actually. Now I know what to get myself for my birthday ;) Thanks Neal :DL

There are other modders and mod teams who address the Pacific side of SH4, with impressive results.
Well said Neal. There are some good mods out there, and thankfully SH4 has a very good game engine to support them.

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello:DL
I can only recommend Peter Cremers U333 He was Captain of that U_boat.
Also I have read DUST On The SEA" - By Captain Edward L. Beach (Fiction).
:woot:

[mr chris]

My humble advice: get a copy of Wahoo: The Patrols of America's Most Famous WWII Submarine. I think if you read that (assuming you haven't already :) ) you will find the Pacific theater very exciting.



Hmm will have to get a copy of that one thanks Neal.
Though i need to get another copy of SH4 while im at it. Due to that fact that when we moved a few months back the game case came with us but the disk seems to have gone into storage. (wont be seeing that for a year or so) :damn::damn:

[Captain Vlad]

Looking back to a couple of responses right after my last post, I think some folks have misunderstood my intent. I wasn't being critical of the GWX guys, I was merely expressing my personal dissapointment that that particular team wasn't working on a mod centered on the Pacific Theater.

That's all.:DL If anything, I feel the team should be complimented that people salivate at the very idea of a 'Pacific GWX'.

[melnibonian]

Looking back to a couple of responses right after my last post, I think some folks have misunderstood my intent. I wasn't being critical of the GWX guys, I was merely expressing my personal dissapointment that that particular team wasn't working on a mod centered on the Pacific Theater.

I can assure you that is not correct. I am sure everyone understood your intention and your well meant comments. It's a shame that GWX concentrate on the Atlantic theater only but on the other hand I feel that people should feel free to work on areas they like and enjoy. The opinions about the different theaters are just that, opinions. Nothing more. Both areas have their merits and thankfully there are some good mods out there to keep the Pacific Players happy. As I said to a previous post the good thing with SH4 and GWX is that in the future there will be a single game engine (SH4) and everyone can chose their mod of choice and their theater of choice. For me that's progress :yep::up:

[ref]

You guys need to do Normal mapping and bump mapping on that to cut down on the load times with models like that.

The polygon count on that is probably astronomical. And seeing as how a lot of people here don't have that great of a system (some of you do, not talking about you guys) It would probably be a wise idea to have a stunted version of those highpoly models for the low end systems.

Like using LODs (Level of Detail) or something to that effect.

Have a Light version for the SH3 style rigs (None of the grid work on the hull, it's all in the textures) so you don't leave those guys with crappy framerates.

Just my two cents. Looks great anyways:yeah:

The most demanding part of GWX on the PCs is the increased size of the campaign files, not the graphics, In fact the bulk of the complains on GWX are about the load times, and that's entirely dependant on the size of the campaign, hopefully with the ability of sh4 to split the campaign we can make things better in that area.
About JSGME, the extend and size of the changed files in GWX prevents us from using it, as it should take forever to enable or disable it, it's simpler to have a dual SHx install.
And not all of us have state of the art PCs, I do all my moding in a p4 with 2 gigs of ram, and a medium range GForce , the only really fats thing I've is a stripped disk RAID.

Ref

[Captain Vlad]

I can assure you that is not correct. I am sure everyone understood your intention and your well meant comments.

I certainly hope so!

[sh3rules]

Even though they were on the enemy’s side, for some reason I prefer the U-boats. I guess it’s because I find the Atlantic more interesting than the Pacific. To each his own, and I’m thrilled that GWX is coming to SH4.

[Reece]

Ref Said:
the only really fats thing I've is a stripped disk RAID.Keep it clean please!:o ...... :haha:

[Jimbuna]

My humble advice: get a copy of Wahoo: The Patrols of America's Most Famous WWII Submarine. I think if you read that (assuming you haven't already :) ) you will find the Pacific theater very exciting.

As for GWX and US subs, those guys are talented and diligent, but even they cannot do all things for all people. They have chosen to concentrate their energies on U-boats, and their work speaks for itself. :salute: I respect their choices.

There are other modders and mod teams who address the Pacific side of SH4, with impressive results.

Precisely....and best wishes to our PTO colleagues http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Madox58]

One thing I keep in mind.
If GWX 4 was to be enabled by JSGME.
The SH4 folder would not be corrected.
You would be hammered right off the bat.

That's not a fault of JSGME, nor any fault of GWX work.
That's just how it would be period.

Multiple installs are not beyond anyones grasp.
So, it is, for the most part?
Not an issue.

To make it an issue is nonsense.

[Captain von Keldunk]

One thing I keep in mind.
If GWX 4 was to be enabled by JSGME.
The SH4 folder would not be corrected.
You would be hammered right off the bat.

That's not a fault of JSGME, nor any fault of GWX work.
That's just how it would be period.

Multiple installs are not beyond anyones grasp.
So, it is, for the most part?
Not an issue.

To make it an issue is nonsense.
Hello:DL
I understand now that GWX4 needs to be permanently installed
for SH4 like it was with SH3.:up:
I have two compatibility questions I would like to ask with all the respect for GWX team:hmmm:
Can you play Fleetboats after installing GWX4 .Will GWX4 work with stock SH41.5 Fleetboats,
or can "fleetboat supermods" TMO, or RFB, or FOTRS, enabled with
jsgme on top of GWX4, like OM700 mod, maybe something like this:
SH41.5
GWX4 permanently installed.:yeah:
"Fleetboat Subermod".:DL
(files that make "Fleetboat Subermod" installing possible) if nessesary :up:

Now maybe GWX4 do not work only "fleetboat supermod" works,ok :DL
You like to play GWX4 again, disable "fleetboat supermod", and now
GWX4 works again:DL

What do you think? is it at all possible:hmmm:

Then If any of this is not possible then how can you make multiple installs of SH4,
While working with my SH3 in SH4 mod, I tried to make a second
installation of SH4 , I renamed My SH41.5 installation, and tried to install
a new SH4 but install shield refused to do it, it said that I allready have
a SH4 installed, It worked with SH3 but not for SH4:timeout:.
One last thing, I have SH4 and SH4 1.5 DVDs but what about them that have
downloaded SH1.5 version, can they make multiple installations:06:

"As for GWX and US subs, those guys are talented and diligent, but even they cannot do all things for all people. They have chosen to concentrate their energies on U-boats, and their work speaks for itself. :salute: I respect their choices."
I respect Also GWX teams choices:up::up::up::yep:
And as modder I know that you maybe have only one way to do something
to make it work. All the best for GWX team:up::up::up:
P.S: I have found answer to my second question = Multi SH4, works ok with vista.:woot:

[Regio Sommergibile]

I can't see the problem using just one supermod at a time. It's years we play the "other" side now i can face a game re-installation to play GWX....:stare:

[Sailor Steve]

I'm with Privateer. What's so hard about just having two installs? I have SH3 and SH4 installed now; in the future I can have SH4 installed twice.

[AVGWarhawk]

Privateer is correct. A lot of multiple installs of SH3 and SH4. One theater or the other with this mod pack or that mod pack. Sometimes just stock. It is a non-issue. :03:

[msalama]

Also Meine Herren, wo kann Ich einen öffentliche Nachrichten-thread für GWX4 antreffen? :salute:

OK, my German sucks, I know :D Any news though, or they still incommunicado in the Lair?

[Jimbuna]

Also Meine Herren, wo kann Ich einen öffentliche Nachrichten-thread für GWX4 antreffen? :salute:

OK, my German sucks, I know :D Any news though, or they still incommunicado in the Lair?

Work continues on a daily basis and we hope to make some kind of an announcement soooooon http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[ichso]

sooooooo looking forward :woot:

At least I'm glad that you guys give me some time to finish my current and also first SH4 pacific campaign before getting caught in the Atlantic again :D

[msalama]

Thanks Jim, eagerly waiting :salute:

[Adriatico]

Is this radio-silence going to last till September... ?

:dead::ping::dead:

[Regio Sommergibile]

If that means a release why not ;)

[Jimbuna]

There has been a recent announcement guys: :03:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=151925

[msalama]

Thank you again Jim! As I stated in that other thread, top job all around :up: Yaaah, time for some hair-raising Atlantic action again when this puppy comes out :rock:

[Regio Sommergibile]

Is that an Italian submarine i see in one of the screens ?? :hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

Is that an Italian submarine i see in one of the screens ?? :hmmm:

Not sure which screen you are referring to, but it could have been an Adua.


http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1618/adua6.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adua6.jpg)

[Regio Sommergibile]

YEEEEEEESSSSSSS :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

Real nice Jim!

[Jimbuna]

YEEEEEEESSSSSSS :up:

Can you point me to the precise screen? :hmmm:

Real nice Jim!

Not so sure/fast....that Adua was taken from an earlier version of GWX :DL

[Regio Sommergibile]

Can you point me to the precise screen?

Merchants, Warships & Aircraft folder on the right (http://www.thegreywolves.com/gwx4/)


GWX4 Warships (development models) in the first pics...

[AVGWarhawk]

Can you point me to the precise screen? :hmmm:



Not so sure/fast....that Adua was taken from an earlier version of GWX :DL


I'm thinking she will fit into SH4 :D

[gumbie]

I can't wait for this!

I love you guys

[Jimbuna]

Merchants, Warships & Aircraft folder on the right (http://www.thegreywolves.com/gwx4/)


GWX4 Warships (development models) in the first pics...

Yes you are right, she is an Italian Adua Class.

My apologies, I overlooked that, must have been suffering from a sober moment :oops:

I'm thinking she will fit into SH4 :D

Whattttt!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/c_jane24/Smileys/4_6_100.gif

An Italian in the PTO?.....They took a bit of convincing just to pop out next door from the Med into the Atlantic :DL

TBH I'm not all that sure how far they travelled, not a particularly strong point for me :hmmm:

[Leg]

Yes you are right, she is an Italian Adua Class.

My apologies, I overlooked that, must have been suffering from a sober moment :oops:



Whattttt!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/c_jane24/Smileys/4_6_100.gif

An Italian in the PTO?.....They took a bit of convincing just to pop out next door from the Med into the Atlantic :DL

TBH I'm not all that sure how far they travelled, not a particularly strong point for me :hmmm:


A few Italian subs were operating also in the Indian Ocean and Pacific.

http://www.regiamarina.net/others/fareast/fareast_us.htm

;)

[Jimbuna]

A few Italian subs were operating also in the Indian Ocean and Pacific.

http://www.regiamarina.net/others/fareast/fareast_us.htm

;)

Thanks for that info Leg....most helpful :yeah:

[Leg]

Thanks for that info Leg....most helpful :yeah:
You're welcome. It would be cool to have Italian subs in gwx4 also in that far theatre!http://www.betasom.it/forum/style_emoticons/standard/Italy.gif (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:add_smilie%28%22:s67:%22,%22smid_55%22%29)

[Adriatico]

It's great that you released "work in progress" screens and video :o:up::o

Hope to see in near future some environment updates :ping::hmmm::ping:

So far, so great Wolves...
:smug:

[Regio Sommergibile]

An Italian in the PTO?.....They took a bit of convincing just to pop out next door from the Med into the Atlantic

68981 in 1940

170585 in 1941

278819 in 1942

53993 in 1943

572.378 Tons only in the atlantic m8 :arrgh!:

[AVGWarhawk]

Darn, just a Med patrol with an Italian submarine would be very nice in SH4. Think beyond the uboat. How about a nice British submarine:D. Come on, if you can give the players an Italian jobby...why not a British jobby:yeah:

[Regio Sommergibile]

Darn, just a Med patrol with an Italian submarine would be very nice in SH4. Think beyond the uboat. How about a nice British submarine:D. Come on, if you can give the players an Italian jobby...why not a British jobby:yeah:

Completely quote. Beefeaters and spaghettis united :arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

68981 in 1940

170585 in 1941

278819 in 1942

53993 in 1943

572.378 Tons only in the atlantic m8 :arrgh!:

Okay okay okay...I concede.

In 1940 the Italian effort sank almost as much as Jürgen von Rosenstiel (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J%C3%BCrgen_von_Rosenstiel&action=edit&redlink=1) 4 patrols 14 ships 78,843 tons overall ranking 50th

1941 Karl-Friedrich Merten (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl-Friedrich_Merten) 5 patrols 27 ships 170,151 tons overall ranking 7th
1942 Otto Kretschmer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Kretschmer) 16 patrols 46 ships 273,043 tons overall ranking 1st
1943Heinrich Timm (http://www.uboat.net/men/timm.htm) 10 patrols 9 ships 53,782 tons overall ranking approx 81st

No doubt all tonnage sunk helped the Axis war effort http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

@AVG....My lips are sealed ya bugga :smug:

[AVGWarhawk]

@AVG....My lips are sealed ya bugga :smug:


:har: