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AntEater
08-01-08, 08:53 AM
Since this somehow ended up as my turf, I could just as well do a modified tonnage list for U-Boat aces to go along with upcoming mods like OP Monsun or GWX 4.0.
Problem only is, I lack sources!
Clay Blair, in contrary to "Silent Victory" lists only the postwar confirmed successes as established by Rohwer et. al., same does Bodo Herzog.
I have Brennecke's "Jäger/Gejagte", but he does not have an extensive list.
Now it backfires that I always avoided books from the propaganda side of life like those of Kurowski/Alman or Jochen Brennecke. Brennecke managed to dispute Rohwer's findings well AFTER allied records of losses have been published ("maybe the british simply covered up that they lost 2 Cruisers in the med" :D).
But he has no coherent list.
Does anyone have a Uboat ace list according to what they were credited with in wartime?

Pablo
08-01-08, 11:07 AM
MODERATOR HAT OFF:

Hi!

You may want to try reading through the BdU Kriegstagebücher ("War Diaries") here (http://www.uboatarchive.net/BDUKTB.htm) at Uboatarchive.net

Pablo

AntEater
08-01-08, 11:12 AM
Yeah, if I want to dedicate serveral weeks of my life to compile an OBSOLETE list, I would do that....
:rotfl:
I rather hope somebody has a book about Uboat aces with a "wrong" ace list

danlisa
08-01-08, 12:41 PM
Does anyone have a Uboat ace list according to what they were credited with in wartime?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U-boat_aces

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_successful_U-boat_commanders

It's wiki but what the hey!

melnibonian
08-01-08, 01:59 PM
You can also check out these listings http://www.uboat.net/men/commanders/

http://www.uboat.net/men/aces/

http://www.uboat.net/allies/merchants/

Pablo
08-01-08, 05:10 PM
Yeah, if I want to dedicate serveral weeks of my life to compile an OBSOLETE list, I would do that....
:rotfl:
I rather hope somebody has a book about Uboat aces with a "wrong" ace list
Hi!

Well, if you want an authentic list of unverified claims (as opposed to verified sinkings), then going to the contemporary German source material is probably your best bet. You might find a list lying about somewhere, but you wouldn't necessarily know if it accurately reflected the wartime claims....

Pablo

Jimbuna
08-02-08, 07:52 AM
http://www.uboataces.com/history-personalities.shtml

http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/macslog/TopTenGermanU-BoatAcesofW.html

http://explanation-guide.info/meaning/List-of-U-boat-aces.html

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/dominicobaggio/myhomepage/aces.html

AntEater
08-02-08, 10:01 AM
These lists have the corrected tonnage scores, I seek the original ones.
I suppose I really have to get "hunters of the seven seas" by Franz Kurowski!
:rotfl:
But that would mean:
Spending 10 euros for a book that I know is very bad, written by Germany's most prolific writer (1000+) books of doubtful political standing (to put it mildly), in the hope that it is as bad as I think it is!
Just for a damn list...
I think I rather ask at Uboat.net