View Full Version : Submarine Appearance, colors??
:know: When the modders make high res skins for our subs, they usually have a grey hull, and grey conning tower...
yet the subs UBI gave us, are dark in color, when you search the internet for pictures you tend to see a little bit of both....
so whats with the hulls that were painted, vs the hulls that were dark in color??
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7612/ling1.jpg
http://www.mikekemble.com/ww2/subs/ussdrum.jpg
Early in the war US submarines were painted black (a paint scheme called MS9 if I recall correctly), but as the war progressed new and more effective camouflage patterns evolved. Hence the grey/black paint scheme you see on some boats.
AVGWarhawk
05-31-07, 03:47 PM
Personally I like the black (I guess they figured black was best at the beginning as the sub would attack at night, makes sense). The skins that originally came with the game when used give me better FPS as well.
CaptainCox
05-31-07, 04:07 PM
Its all pretty much covered here ;)
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=111715&highlight=paint
Linklinker
05-31-07, 04:38 PM
This is off topic, but where was that second picture taken at?
ReallyDedPoet
05-31-07, 05:14 PM
This is off topic, but where was that second picture taken at?
Would like to know this as well :roll:.
RDP
John Channing
05-31-07, 05:22 PM
Judging by her hull number that's the USS Drum. If I'm right she is located in Mobile, AL.
JCC
ReallyDedPoet
05-31-07, 05:25 PM
Judging by her hull number that's the USS Drum. If I'm right she is located in Mobile, AL.
JCC
Thanks:up: JCC
Sometime soon I want to get to Chicago to see U-505, with SH4 now my game of choice I would like to see some of the Fleet Boats as well.
RDP
AVGWarhawk
05-31-07, 06:13 PM
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/1986ddk01.jpg
Come on down to Baltimore MD and see the USS Torsk. She is still painted the same today as in the photo. She is right in front of the National Aquarium. If you make you way here, let me know. I'm only 20 minutes away and will come on down to meet you and tour this sub with you. She is the last submarine to fire a torpedo for a sinking during WW2.
BTW....all you skin modders. How about a go on this baby for a skin job?
I've been on the Torsk;. Also been on the Constellation as well.
The aquarium in Baltimore is the best!
Inner harbor is a neat lil place.
Steel_Tomb
05-31-07, 06:49 PM
BTW....all you skin modders. How about a go on this baby for a skin job?
Aye, please. Would look pretty nice!
ReallyDedPoet
05-31-07, 06:53 PM
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/1986ddk01.jpg
Come on down to Baltimore MD and see the USS Torsk. She is still painted the same today as in the photo. She is right in front of the National Aquarium. If you make you way here, let me know. I'm only 20 minutes away and will come on down to meet you and tour this sub with you. She is the last submarine to fire a torpedo for a sinking during WW2.
BTW....all you skin modders. How about a go on this baby for a skin job?
Very nice, this will happen AVG:up:
RDP
Linklinker
05-31-07, 08:06 PM
Judging by her hull number that's the USS Drum. If I'm right she is located in Mobile, AL.
JCC
I knew it! I went through it once. That picture makes me sad though. Seeing it decaying like that.
When I stepped foot on it, it was still in the water. Its a Gato class whcih is my favorite class. I need to dig up the pictures that my family took when we were there.
"She received a total of 12 battle stars for World War II service. She is credited with sinking 15 ships, a total of 80,580 tons of enemy shipping, eighth highest of all U.S. submarines in total Japanese tonnage sunk."
AVGWarhawk
05-31-07, 08:53 PM
I've been on the Torsk;. Also been on the Constellation as well.
The aquarium in Baltimore is the best!
Inner harbor is a neat lil place.
Last time I was on her was about 20 years ago. This pic I believe was her last paint job. Once I get off my dead butt I'm volunteering a few weekends a year to keep her up. What the hell. She is only 20 minutes from me.
AVGWarhawk
05-31-07, 08:55 PM
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/1986ddk01.jpg
Come on down to Baltimore MD and see the USS Torsk. She is still painted the same today as in the photo. She is right in front of the National Aquarium. If you make you way here, let me know. I'm only 20 minutes away and will come on down to meet you and tour this sub with you. She is the last submarine to fire a torpedo for a sinking during WW2.
BTW....all you skin modders. How about a go on this baby for a skin job?
Very nice, this will happen AVG:up:
RDP
RDP
Should be somewhat easy. She is already black like the original file skins basically the mouth and eye. She would look good in this game for sure. Rock on!:rock:
I would do it but I would not know were to begin:oops:
AVGWarhawk
05-31-07, 08:57 PM
Seriously, anyone wanting to head over to see her, let me know. I'll meet you there and then get you a beer over at the Hard Rock Cafe! Just name the weekend!
AVGWarhawk
05-31-07, 08:59 PM
Judging by her hull number that's the USS Drum. If I'm right she is located in Mobile, AL.
JCC
I knew it! I went through it once. That picture makes me sad though. Seeing it decaying like that.
When I stepped foot on it, it was still in the water. Its a Gato class whcih is my favorite class. I need to dig up the pictures that my family took when we were there.
"She received a total of 12 battle stars for World War II service. She is credited with sinking 15 ships, a total of 80,580 tons of enemy shipping, eighth highest of all U.S. submarines in total Japanese tonnage sunk."
Hey Link.....I think this picture was at refurbishing and final stop for the Drum. Notice the dirt mounds? Perhaps to sure up the hull for stability?
ReallyDedPoet
05-31-07, 09:00 PM
Seriously, anyone wanting to head over to see her, let me know. I'll meet you there and then get you a beer over at the Hard Rock Cafe! Just name the weekend!
I will take you up on this offer one day AVG:up: Sooner rather than later for sure:yep:
When I do I will let you know.
RDP
AVGWarhawk
06-01-07, 05:03 PM
I took the plunge men! Tomorrow 0700, me at the USS TORSK as a volunteer. Man, they jumped at my offer to volunteer to help with upkeep. I guess I will be scrubbing the brass fittings! I need to get a digital camera so I can do some pics and post. Being that I will have full run of the submarine...I intend to do so!:up:
Silent-Killer
06-01-07, 05:17 PM
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q62/avgwarhawk/1986ddk01.jpg
Come on down to Baltimore MD and see the USS Torsk. She is still painted the same today as in the photo. She is right in front of the National Aquarium. If you make you way here, let me know. I'm only 20 minutes away and will come on down to meet you and tour this sub with you. She is the last submarine to fire a torpedo for a sinking during WW2.
BTW....all you skin modders. How about a go on this baby for a skin job?
LOL if your a dane you would laugh... Becuase "Torsk" is used when you say somebody are stupid or if somebody makes a stupid mistake:rotfl: :rotfl: I guess it's because "Torsk" is the Danish name of some stupid fish :lol: (Dont know what it's called in English)
ReallyDedPoet
06-01-07, 05:22 PM
I took the plunge men! Tomorrow 0700, me at the USS TORSK as a volunteer. Man, they jumped at my offer to volunteer to help with upkeep. I guess I will be scrubbing the brass fittings! I need to get a digital camera so I can do some pics and post. Being that I will have full run of the submarine...I intend to do so!:up:
Have fun, be sure to post some pics:up:
RDP
LOL if your a dane you would laugh... Becuase "Torsk" is used when you say somebody are stupid or if somebody makes a stupid mistake:rotfl: :rotfl: I guess it's because "Torsk" is the Danish name of some stupid fish :lol: (Dont know what it's called in English)
LOL I believe 'torsk' means in english 'Cod'. At least thats what the norwegian word 'torsk' equates to.:lol:
OK, don't this actually happened . . . and I doubt that it did . . . but did anything like Operation Petticoat (http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/maps/1900s/1942pacific3700.jpg) actually occur? I mean with the Pink Boat?
AVGWarhawk
06-02-07, 01:07 PM
OK, don't this actually happened . . . and I doubt that it did . . . but did anything like Operation Petticoat (http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/maps/1900s/1942pacific3700.jpg) actually occur? I mean with the Pink Boat?
The paint would oxidize and look pink. It also happened on the aircraft. There was a notable P40 that turned pink from the oxidized paint.
I took the plunge men! Tomorrow 0700, me at the USS TORSK as a volunteer. Man, they jumped at my offer to volunteer to help with upkeep. I guess I will be scrubbing the brass fittings! I need to get a digital camera so I can do some pics and post. Being that I will have full run of the submarine...I intend to do so!:up:
Good for you! I wished I had projects like that located closer to where I live. That's the downside of living in a neutral country I guess. ;)
Back to topic: MS9 "All black" was actually the standard camouflage at the start of the war http://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_9.htm, or alternatively MS 10 http://www.shipcamouflage.com/measure_10.htmwhile later they apparently found out that a combination of lighter grey in the sides with darker grey above was better:up:
The WosMan
06-02-07, 04:04 PM
Here's the USS Cod (Gato class with the cutdown tower) in Cleveland, Ohio, pics taken by me. I also believe she is the only fleetboat left that has a 100% working TDC. You can see the gray paint and the top deck is painted black. I remember that the deck was very hot the day I took the shots due to the sun beating down on it all day.
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/599/img2851sb9.jpg
Here is a closeup of the tower with all the awards and ships sunk, junks sunk, and a martini glass for saving a dutch submarine crew. I didn't feel like rotating the image, sorry.
http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/8610/img2847yb0.jpg
AVGWarhawk
06-02-07, 04:06 PM
The USS Cod is a museum piece for sure. She is in great shape!
The WosMan
06-02-07, 04:09 PM
I would say the best. She's completely mint and even the diesels work if they chose to run them. I suppose the fact it sits fresh water helps. If you go you have to buy the pin they sell. It has the logo of the skull with the torpedo smashing through it.
I don't know if I'll ever get to visit the US, but if I do, I won't have any problems figuring out what to do... :|\\
Seriously, anyone wanting to head over to see her, let me know. I'll meet you there and then get you a beer over at the Hard Rock Cafe! Just name the weekend!
Damn ... Hard Rock Cafe ... had a couple good nights there a while back. (Is Hooters still out there?)
Unfortunately my journey in life has landed me in Jacksonville FLA. It'll have to be a 3 day weekend and a flight to Baltimore if I'm to take that offer. :damn:
AVGWarhawk
06-02-07, 09:45 PM
Seriously, anyone wanting to head over to see her, let me know. I'll meet you there and then get you a beer over at the Hard Rock Cafe! Just name the weekend!
Damn ... Hard Rock Cafe ... had a couple good nights there a while back. (Is Hooters still out there?)
Unfortunately my journey in life has landed me in Jacksonville FLA. It'll have to be a 3 day weekend and a flight to Baltimore if I'm to take that offer. :damn:
If you do let me know and you can have a private tour of the Torsk, the beer will have to wait until they open the doors at the Hard Rock.
AVGWarhawk
06-02-07, 09:47 PM
I would say the best. She's completely mint and even the diesels work if they chose to run them. I suppose the fact it sits fresh water helps. If you go you have to buy the pin they sell. It has the logo of the skull with the torpedo smashing through it.
No doubt the finest example you will find. Currently we can only aspire to this magnitude with the Torsk but we know it can be done when we see the Cod:up:
I travel to a lot of domestic cities for work, this was a nice thread drift! :) we should make a list of domestic cites to visit submarines in! so far i can tell...
"Sub Cities"
- Baltamore Inner Harbor
- Chicago
- Mobile AL
- New York City (near the Intrepid)
- Cleveland, Ohio
ps. AVG i'll drop you a PM if im ever in town staying at the Harbor, the chances are likely, i just usually dont know when...
THIS (http://www.nsmayport.navy.mil/Ships%20home%20ported.htm) sits 5 miles from my house.
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