[REQ] Remove land reflections on water

Quagmire · 12-04-07, 12:31 AM

One thing I remember from SHIII that was so immersive was entering the wonderful ports and watching the harbor traffic go by as I made my way to the dock. However this experience is almost completely ruined by they overdone reflections on the water. Now dont get me wrong, the reflections of the dock cranes and other objects looks really great. Its the reflections of the land masses that look terrible. Here is an example:

See where I circled the choppy relfection of the beach on the water. The reflections actually crawl up and down the shoreline as the sub rolls and pitches. The effect is ABSOLUTELY ugly, rediculous and totally unrealistic. This is obviously a bug in the game or a product of my lovely x1950 card but since both arent going away I was wondering if the effect could be removed entirely?

Can you reflections modding gurus help me out? Are others having this issue?

Thanks in advance.
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Quagmire · 12-04-07, 09:27 PM

No one has any ideas? Just point me in the right direction and I will take a crack at fixing it myself. I just cant stand the "barber pole" reflection effect anymore!

Ducimus · 12-04-07, 09:42 PM

I'm assuming your a TM user?

Im going to have to make another patch tonight, and part of it, will be a new scene.dat. It is my hope that applying stock reflection values to it, will tame things down. The other part might be *some* LBO adjustments, but the bare minimum.

OR....

-You can deactivate the mod,

-copy the file sh4/data/scene.dat to your desktop. (the acutal one in the data directory, NOT the mod directory)

- Reactivate the mod, and copy this file from your desktop, back into the SH4/data directory.

Quagmire · 12-04-07, 10:29 PM

Thanks for the reply. Yes, a TM user here. I will merge the original scene.dat into TM 1.7.1 as you suggest and see what happens.

Oh and check your TM thread. I posted the results of the NSS_Narwhal.upc edit you gave me.
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Ducimus · 12-04-07, 10:56 PM

Yeah i saw that.

Scuse me while i go hide in a corner and have a good cry now.

longam · 12-04-07, 11:11 PM

And if you zoom in with you binoculars you can see a normal reflection, or in my case it was that way.

Try turning off Post Process Filters, and tweak the rest of your graphic settings while in port to tone it down.

Nvidia 7600 GTS

Quagmire · 12-05-07, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Yeah i saw that.

Scuse me while i go hide in a corner and have a good cry now.

Cheer up. You are really pushing the envelope here.

These blips are to be expected.

Quote:

Originally Posted by longam

nd if you zoom in with you binoculars you can see a normal reflection, or in my case it was that way.

That happens to me as well. Zoomed in reflections are fine. Reflections at a distance are terrible. I love the post process filters though. I would hate to turn them off.

The key to this is in the scene.dat, correct?
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12-04-07, 12:31 AM	#1
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	[REQ] Remove land reflections on water One thing I remember from SHIII that was so immersive was entering the wonderful ports and watching the harbor traffic go by as I made my way to the dock. However this experience is almost completely ruined by they overdone reflections on the water. Now dont get me wrong, the reflections of the dock cranes and other objects looks really great. Its the reflections of the land masses that look terrible. Here is an example: See where I circled the choppy relfection of the beach on the water. The reflections actually crawl up and down the shoreline as the sub rolls and pitches. The effect is ABSOLUTELY ugly, rediculous and totally unrealistic. This is obviously a bug in the game or a product of my lovely x1950 card but since both arent going away I was wondering if the effect could be removed entirely? Can you reflections modding gurus help me out? Are others having this issue? Thanks in advance. . __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...

12-04-07, 09:27 PM	#2
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	No one has any ideas? Just point me in the right direction and I will take a crack at fixing it myself. I just cant stand the "barber pole" reflection effect anymore! __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...

12-04-07, 10:29 PM	#4
Quagmire Watch Officer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 335 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the reply. Yes, a TM user here. I will merge the original scene.dat into TM 1.7.1 as you suggest and see what happens. Oh and check your TM thread. I posted the results of the NSS_Narwhal.upc edit you gave me. . __________________ The day publishers figured out that they could sell flashy first person shooters to teenagers in numbers greater than sand on a beach was the day that quality simulations died. --Col. Tibbets UBI SHIV Forums I guess they should have made SH4 an open boat where we run around inside and shoot each other a 1000 times. They seem to handle those games with numerous patches. --Longam UBI SHIV Forums A sad day has dawned...

12-04-07, 09:42 PM	#3
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I'm assuming your a TM user? Im going to have to make another patch tonight, and part of it, will be a new scene.dat. It is my hope that applying stock reflection values to it, will tame things down. The other part might be some LBO adjustments, but the bare minimum. OR.... -You can deactivate the mod, -copy the file sh4/data/scene.dat to your desktop. (the acutal one in the data directory, NOT the mod directory) - Reactivate the mod, and copy this file from your desktop, back into the SH4/data directory.

12-04-07, 10:56 PM	#5
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Yeah i saw that. Scuse me while i go hide in a corner and have a good cry now.

12-04-07, 11:11 PM	#6
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	And if you zoom in with you binoculars you can see a normal reflection, or in my case it was that way. Try turning off Post Process Filters, and tweak the rest of your graphic settings while in port to tone it down. Nvidia 7600 GTS