SH3 Commander - save issue

zeshoot · 05-01-20, 05:57 PM

Hi there Lads. I am close to give up at this point. Got this issue.
I cannot load the game either via SH3Commander or normal exec. Whenever I do save during patrol, either 500 km off the shore, no ships visible around, no contacts, calm weather, surfaced - it doesn't matter. Game won't load. It's crashing to desktop each f!(*@&ng time...Only save I can load is at the very beginning - port or mid Nordsee - before I even sunk any ship. After that - each time. Game crashes when reaching 100% loading bar.
It's impossible to play like that since one patrol can take quite the time (like IX career on US coast patrols...).
Anyone know's what's up with that bug? Anyone had similar issue and happened to fix it?
My mods are 99% setup of Wolfpack345(his IX career, except different Uboat skin). Hsie, tycho, chrono patches, game works, plays, I can start new career, single mission.
All that DOESN"T work is loading saved patrol in my career...
Will appreciate any help, have a blast of a day You all!!!
Thnx

Pisces · 05-01-20, 07:13 PM

You may have luck by reverting to older saves. Sometimes the cause of the bug happened at an earlier event in the game. Like saving when you are not aware that there were contacts outside of visual range. (To be sure, do a hydrophone check before saving by listening yourself. Then you can be sure nothing is within 34 km radius) Loosing a savegame is less of a loss than the entire patrol. If you go on a long patrol, make sure you make unique saves.

Did you change mods along the course of this patrol? If you did, there might be a conflict with the savegame. Either restore the mod order and hope the savegames start working again, or just begin a new carreer based on the mod status quo. As a rule, never make changes to the game while in a patrol! Some pure graphical file changes might be an exception.

Also, for SH3 Commander. Make sure it is not installed in the default location in Program Files. Commander makes backupfiles of the changes and stores this in it's root folder. Windows does not like it if programs change files in the protected Program Files folder and reverts those file changes. Installing it elsewere (like C:\Games\SH3Commander) avoids those issues.

SH3 Commander also has the rollback function. Can you provide more information on what it shows before you start the game from SH3 Commander? I'm a bit rusty on how to restore synchronisation between it and the game but it may give others a clue.

Texas Red · 05-01-20, 08:06 PM

Welcome back to Subsim, zeshoot, after a 6 year silent run!

Now, I may be wrong, but who cares?

John Pancoast · 05-02-20, 03:06 AM

Is just pausing the game an option vs. saving ? On a general note, the more modded a game is, the more problems it will have with saved games.

In my experience anyway. Some guys have a mod list that rivals "War and Peace" and then wonder why their game is unstable.

Pisces · 05-02-20, 03:09 AM

I once had SH3 kept paused for more than a day. Then Windows 10 decided that it was long enough and automatically rebooted to apply an update. So take your chances of that.

John Pancoast · 05-02-20, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pisces

I once had SH3 kept paused for more than a day. Then Windows 10 decided that it was long enough and automatically rebooted to apply an update. So take your chances of that.

True, but one can always change how updates are handled. I have mine set to a non-automatic "I get notices but nothing happens unless I approve it" type of setting.
I use pausing more than saving, if for no other reason than to save restart time and the funky way SH3 can handle weather.

BigWalleye · 05-02-20, 06:52 AM

Zeshoot, do you save each time using a different save filename? If you use the same filename each time, SH3 will overwrite the existing file. When it does so, it has been known to not play nice, resulting in a corrupted file. Try using a unique filename for each save. ( save1, save2 is enough.)

Hope that helps. Good luck and good hunting.

blackswan40 · 05-02-20, 07:01 AM

Hi zeshoot Have you downloaded the 4 gig patch and the Commander Mod Config File

4Gig Patch Download Link

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=2888

Commander Mod Config File Download Link

http://www.thegreywolves.com/downloads/

when i save my SH3 Carrer i use the wardate and time as my game save name.

8-9-39-18:00
12-9-39-08:31

Saving your SH3 Game patrol Sessions like that you know just by the save date name which save equates to what date.

At Subsim the Pride Runs Deep we look after our Own Salute

05-01-20, 05:57 PM	#1
zeshoot Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 9 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	SH3 Commander - save issue Hi there Lads. I am close to give up at this point. Got this issue. I cannot load the game either via SH3Commander or normal exec. Whenever I do save during patrol, either 500 km off the shore, no ships visible around, no contacts, calm weather, surfaced - it doesn't matter. Game won't load. It's crashing to desktop each f!(*@&ng time...Only save I can load is at the very beginning - port or mid Nordsee - before I even sunk any ship. After that - each time. Game crashes when reaching 100% loading bar. It's impossible to play like that since one patrol can take quite the time (like IX career on US coast patrols...). Anyone know's what's up with that bug? Anyone had similar issue and happened to fix it? My mods are 99% setup of Wolfpack345(his IX career, except different Uboat skin). Hsie, tycho, chrono patches, game works, plays, I can start new career, single mission. All that DOESN"T work is loading saved patrol in my career... Will appreciate any help, have a blast of a day You all!!! Thnx

05-01-20, 07:13 PM	#2
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	You may have luck by reverting to older saves. Sometimes the cause of the bug happened at an earlier event in the game. Like saving when you are not aware that there were contacts outside of visual range. (To be sure, do a hydrophone check before saving by listening yourself. Then you can be sure nothing is within 34 km radius) Loosing a savegame is less of a loss than the entire patrol. If you go on a long patrol, make sure you make unique saves. Did you change mods along the course of this patrol? If you did, there might be a conflict with the savegame. Either restore the mod order and hope the savegames start working again, or just begin a new carreer based on the mod status quo. As a rule, never make changes to the game while in a patrol! Some pure graphical file changes might be an exception. Also, for SH3 Commander. Make sure it is not installed in the default location in Program Files. Commander makes backupfiles of the changes and stores this in it's root folder. Windows does not like it if programs change files in the protected Program Files folder and reverts those file changes. Installing it elsewere (like C:\Games\SH3Commander) avoids those issues. SH3 Commander also has the rollback function. Can you provide more information on what it shows before you start the game from SH3 Commander? I'm a bit rusty on how to restore synchronisation between it and the game but it may give others a clue. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads Last edited by Pisces; 05-01-20 at 07:25 PM.

05-01-20, 08:06 PM	#3
Texas Red Fastest Gun Around Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Agua Fira, New Mexico Posts: 2,368 Downloads: 528 Uploads: 5	Welcome back to Subsim, zeshoot, after a 6 year silent run! Now, I may be wrong, but who cares? __________________ There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. — Colin Powell I'm not very active on the forums anymore. If you have a question, please DM me and I'll respond ASAP!

05-02-20, 03:06 AM	#4
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,211 Downloads: 501 Uploads: 4	Is just pausing the game an option vs. saving ? On a general note, the more modded a game is, the more problems it will have with saved games. In my experience anyway. Some guys have a mod list that rivals "War and Peace" and then wonder why their game is unstable. __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

05-02-20, 03:09 AM	#5
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	I once had SH3 kept paused for more than a day. Then Windows 10 decided that it was long enough and automatically rebooted to apply an update. So take your chances of that. __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

05-02-20, 06:52 AM	#7
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Zeshoot, do you save each time using a different save filename? If you use the same filename each time, SH3 will overwrite the existing file. When it does so, it has been known to not play nice, resulting in a corrupted file. Try using a unique filename for each save. ( save1, save2 is enough.) Hope that helps. Good luck and good hunting.

05-02-20, 07:01 AM	#8
blackswan40 GWX - KC Crash Test Dummy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: IN THE STEEL SHARKS VIRTUAL OCEAN Posts: 2,782 Downloads: 610 Uploads: 31	Hi zeshoot Have you downloaded the 4 gig patch and the Commander Mod Config File 4Gig Patch Download Link https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=2888 Commander Mod Config File Download Link http://www.thegreywolves.com/downloads/ when i save my SH3 Carrer i use the wardate and time as my game save name. 8-9-39-18:00 12-9-39-08:31 Saving your SH3 Game patrol Sessions like that you know just by the save date name which save equates to what date. At Subsim the Pride Runs Deep we look after our Own Salute __________________ Someone Had to Make the Tea Last edited by blackswan40; 05-02-20 at 07:17 AM.