TWOs I just cannot shake off destroyers

[Compans57]

After suffering the lame destroyers in the stock game I’ve encountered the other extreme in TWOs. I’m in mission 2, coastal waters. I encountered a warship, sunk it, then 3 of his mates found me. After 3 hours of wasserbombing and jinking this way and that in real time I finally got punchy and headed east and TC X 68. The network of blue lines keep circling. They seem to have run out of depth charges but I’m down to low battery and very little oxygen.

This just isn’t very realistic. Will I have to game the game again?

[XenonSurf]

Using high TC when enemies are nearby is a very bad idea in all SH games, it has the effect of magically send all enemies right over you, that's a glitch in all SH games. Use TC not higher than x4 or max. x8 in WoS if underwater with enemies or if your sub is damaged.
Hey, this is written in the docs of WoS, I'm pretty sure...


If still the destroyers are too hard for you, you can tweak WoS to show the destroyer's sonar cones by changing the settings in the OFEV or even in the game itself (there is an icon to press on the NavMap to change settings). Then, try to keep a low aspect angle and avoid the orange cones of the destroyers. The AI is quite good in SH5 WoS, and I already said elsewhere that this game is not for 'casual gamers'...




XS

[Compans57]

Thanks Xenon.

I’m really not after a casual game at this point. As I said I did at least 3 hours in real time. I was very impressed at this point as it’s exactly the challenge I was after.

I’ve played SH since the very first one and generally there’s a point where the destroyers are losing the scent and you can up the TC a couple of notches, which eventually is what I did, but it felt like they could ‘magically’ find me. If I’m wrong, that’s good.

I’d rather not have to resort to arcade cones and the like.

I just wanted to know that this wasn’t a glitch and I do stand a chance of shaking them off if I do everything right.

Btw...does it mess up the game if you save during one of these situations? I was up til 5am last night! What’s the solution?

Cheers.

[XenonSurf]

Originally Posted by Compans57

(...)there’s a point where the destroyers are losing the scent and you can up the TC a couple of notches, which eventually is what I did, but it felt like they could ‘magically’ find me. If I’m wrong, that’s good.

I’d rather not have to resort to arcade cones and the like.

I just wanted to know that this wasn’t a glitch and I do stand a chance of shaking them off if I do everything right.

Btw...does it mess up the game if you save during one of these situations? I was up til 5am last night! What’s the solution?

Cheers.

'Casual gamer' is no blame at all, I'm one of them in many games...
Rest assured that yes, the magic reappearance of the enemy over you if you use a higher TC is a glitch, nothing you can do about but NOT use too high time compression.


It's better not to save game with enemies in sight, the risk to corrupt the save is small however. The risk is bigger with enemy airplaines in sight, or with damaged units in sight. What's important to not get corrupt saves is: always save in a different slot and don't use autosaves (just delete them, you get the delete option when saving a game, also delete your previous good saves when you don't need them, they take a lot of memory with time. Always keep bunker saves.)


Have fun and go on asking if you need help,

XS

[Compans57]

Cheers pal.

[O.Kusch]

Hello and good evening companse57,

3 days ago I suffered the same. Various destroyers came over me to bomb me up. My escape was, that I was near the ground, 106 meters deep and all machines off. Send my crew to sleep and activated the CO 2 filter. Because my hydrophone was damaged I couldn't hear exactly when they lost pacience and had drained from me. After 20 hrs I had to surface at night and oh luck, the sea was abandoned.
The20 hrs I passed with TC 64.

But I have to admit, that it was the first time, that I could escape this way.

Greetings from Uli

[n0mjaS]

By the way if you are laying around on the bottom of the sea and try to do repairs, dont save and reload the game. Your sub will get additional damage on spawn caused by the collision with the ground

[bstanko6]

Why destroyers will not let go:

Weather: on a clear calm sea, destroyers will not only sound locate you better, they will be more accurate in attacks.

Profile: the profile of your boat, when a sonar ping hits it, is reflected in this game. A sound shot on your broadside is a huge sign pointing to your sub!

Sound: if you manage to get distance from the attackers, you need to go 50 RPM or less, cease repairs, and wait.

Because the DC rack inventory in this game is unrealistic... you could be depth charged by one ship for a ridiculous amount of time. Bring a book to read!

[Compans57]

Do they eventually run out of depth charges and will they eventually go home?

[bstanko6]

They do, but they have a non realistic amount.

[Compans57]

Will they go home at that point?

[bstanko6]

They will go back to the convoy, or other scripted destination.

If you stir them up, they will come back, and follow you even without DC.

[Compans57]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

They do, but they have a non realistic amount.

Anyone know how many?

[kapuhy]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

Because the DC rack inventory in this game is unrealistic... you could be depth charged by one ship for a ridiculous amount of time. Bring a book to read!

This sounds like a good idea for modding project

Custom weapons with more limited ammo can be added, I did one on my yet unfinished motor launch. Models are already there so one would just need to clone existing weapons with accurate ammo for each ship type.

[vdr1981]

Originally Posted by Compans57

After suffering the lame destroyers in the stock game I’ve encountered the other extreme in TWOs. I’m in mission 2, coastal waters. I encountered a warship, sunk it, then 3 of his mates found me. After 3 hours of wasserbombing and jinking this way and that in real time I finally got punchy and headed east and TC X 68. The network of blue lines keep circling. They seem to have run out of depth charges but I’m down to low battery and very little oxygen.

This just isn’t very realistic. Will I have to game the game again?

Convoy escorts won't let you go as long as they detect you, at least once in XX number of minutes or until the convoy leaves the area. Then they will rejoin the convoy.



However, lone destroyers (coastal patrols and dedicated hunter killer groups) will leave you only if they can not detect you anymore and I don't see what's so unrealistic about that? Free tip: All you need is depth, silence and some luck. Trying to perform fancy holywood DC dodge escape with AK will only make them more persistent...