How shocking! The Brits do it, too!

Skybird · 11-05-13, 10:59 AM

They spy on us! Eeeeeeek...!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-931868.html

Naive Germans. Dear Germans, if you want others not spying on you, i advise you to do this: become strong in spionage so that you are able to fight them off and prevent them from successfully doign what they do. That is what counter-espionage is about.

To accuse the Americans or the British of trying to steal our economic and business secrets is as rational as to accuse German export industry to be stronger than that of those complainig about it.

Dear Germany, fight foreign intel off instead of crying about their operations!
Dear America - become economically stronger yourself instead of crying about us hvaign strong exports (the same greeting goes to France, England and the EU).

Too good that Germany's diplomatic elite has forced America to accept singing an anti-spying-treaty. That will teach America its limits, I'm sure.

the_tyrant · 11-05-13, 11:17 AM

Oh, come on. Its not like you guys don't do it.

Spying on politicians is a fact lf life. Hell, even the tabloids do it!

Herr-Berbunch · 11-05-13, 11:43 AM

Your telling me that during the cold war (West) Germany didn't build up its own espionage network?

Or that it's a complete surprise to Germans that spying ever took place from Teufelsberg, even when it looked like this (but in better state of repair)? -

Only the subjects change.

Oberon · 11-05-13, 12:10 PM

Well...you know...you are Germany, and we are Britain...you know...

It's tradition. We spy on the French too, just in case.

Catfish · 11-05-13, 12:33 PM

Jimbuna · 11-05-13, 03:29 PM

Time to change the Enigma rotors I guess.

11-05-13, 03:37 PM

I don't think the Brits spy. That's to crude and not British as they say.
I'd think it would be called 'a Clandestine Inquirey'.

Jimbuna · 11-05-13, 03:50 PM

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The British ambassador in Berlin has been called in to Germany's foreign ministry to respond to spying allegations.
The UK's Independent newspaper says the British embassy in Berlin may house a "top-secret listening post".
It cites leaked US National Security Agency (NSA) documents suggesting the UK could be using hi-tech equipment housed on the embassy roof.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24824633

TarJak · 11-05-13, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

I don't think the Brits spy. That's to crude and not British as they say.
I'd think it would be called 'a Clandestine Inquirey'.

No no my dear sir. One does not speak of such things under any circumstances.

11-05-13, 04:16 PM

Spying on allies makes sense. You know your enemies are up to no good - with your friends you need to check...

Cybermat47 · 11-05-13, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

What?! We don't spy on you Germany! Our secret service probably sucks too much!

CaptainMattJ. · 11-05-13, 04:33 PM

Called it.

11-05-13, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

No no my dear sir. One does not speak of such things under any circumstances.

Ah yes. I stand corrected.
I'm sure it was more a nudge nudge wink wink sort of situation, eh Bruce?

Oberon · 11-05-13, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24824633

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It cites leaked US National Security Agency (NSA) documents suggesting the UK could be using hi-tech equipment housed on the embassy roof.

Oh...oh that!

No, that's not for spying! That's for getting certain late night channels.

11-05-13, 04:44 PM

That's the smokeing room isn't it?

11-05-13, 10:59 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	How shocking! The Brits do it, too! They spy on us! Eeeeeeek...! http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-931868.html Naive Germans. Dear Germans, if you want others not spying on you, i advise you to do this: become strong in spionage so that you are able to fight them off and prevent them from successfully doign what they do. That is what counter-espionage is about. To accuse the Americans or the British of trying to steal our economic and business secrets is as rational as to accuse German export industry to be stronger than that of those complainig about it. Dear Germany, fight foreign intel off instead of crying about their operations! Dear America - become economically stronger yourself instead of crying about us hvaign strong exports (the same greeting goes to France, England and the EU). Too good that Germany's diplomatic elite has forced America to accept singing an anti-spying-treaty. That will teach America its limits, I'm sure. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Oh, come on. Its not like you guys don't do it. Spying on politicians is a fact lf life. Hell, even the tabloids do it! __________________ My own open source project on Sourceforge OTP.net KGB grade encryption for the rest of us

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Your telling me that during the cold war (West) Germany didn't build up its own espionage network? Or that it's a complete surprise to Germans that spying ever took place from Teufelsberg, even when it looked like this (but in better state of repair)? - Only the subjects change. __________________

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,461 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Time to change the Enigma rotors I guess. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Called it. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well...you know...you are Germany, and we are Britain...you know... It's tradition. We spy on the French too, just in case.

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Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I don't think the Brits spy. That's to crude and not British as they say. I'd think it would be called 'a Clandestine Inquirey'.

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AndyJWest Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Spying on allies makes sense. You know your enemies are up to no good - with your friends you need to check...

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Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	That's the smokeing room isn't it?