AI working acoustic torpedo ("fido")? Take a look!

[Rubini]

Hy guys,

Last days with few sleep ... the Ai torpedos matter is really very interesting!:

I finished the Air Torpedos, tested it on campaigns, save&reload campaign games, all working ok and with random Air torpedo bombers covering all the war time following the allied air coverage. It´s ok and ready for release.

But then I found something new. I as able (with some tricks) to have also a "real" working Ai acoustic torpedo (without use of Virtual torpedos)...take a look yourself on the videos below.

In truth they continue with that old limitation to only be spawed going to north...but with some tricks they are working, finding loud propellers in any direction. They are very good in behaviour for my taste. Let me know what you think.

surfaced
submerged



Ahoy!
Rubini.

PS: correct me if I´m wrong: Fido and others acoustic torpedos were eletric ones and didn´t had visible trail over water? Is this correct?

[sublynx]

Originally Posted by Rubini

Hy guys,

Last days with few sleep ... the Ai torpedos matter is really very interesting!:

Great work Rubini! It looks marvelous (and horrible at the same time - I don't think I'll be sleeping too good myself thinking about 1943 and those damn Fidos hunting my poor boat)

[Jimbuna]

Looks like your onto a winner Rubini

[reaper7]

OMG, this is fantastic Rubini. First Air torpedoes and now FIDO, the seas have now become a terrifying place to be.

[sublynx]

Originally Posted by Rubini

PS: correct me if I´m wrong: Fido and others acoustic torpedos were eletric ones and didn´t had visible trail over water? Is this correct?

As far as I know, they were indeed electric, Falkes, Zaunkönigs and Fidos. There should be no clearly visible trail like the one a G7a torpedo in the game leaves.

(However there is a mod in downloads section that adds some trail to electric torpedoes. I don't know how realistic that is but I would guess that any torpedo would leave some trail behind it that would be visible at least in very calm waters.)

[Rubini]

Originally Posted by sublynx

As far as I know, they were indeed electric, Falkes, Zaunkönigs and Fidos. There should be no clearly visible trail like the one a G7a torpedo in the game leaves.

(However there is a mod in downloads section that adds some trail to electric torpedoes. I don't know how realistic that is but I would guess that any torpedo would leave some trail behind it that would be visible at least in very calm waters.)

Thanks by the input. Let´s wait more opinions about, then I will finish the mod!

[melnibonian]

Another great addition.

I can't wait to try it

[EmeAzul]

Rubini, very nice indeed, but I was just wondering if there is any defensive tactic that would avoid the loss of the U-Boot. i.e deeper submerge, turning off all engines and/or more evasive maneuvers? Thx

EmeAzul

[Rubini]

Originally Posted by EmeAzul

Rubini, very nice indeed, but I was just wondering if there is any defensive tactic that would avoid the loss of the U-Boot. i.e deeper submerge, turning off all engines and/or more evasive maneuvers? Thx

EmeAzul

Yes all the above works, mainly going very slow or going deep. Also high speed manouvers can help but if you have more than one fish on water will be difficulty to avoid all them.

[TorpX]

Originally Posted by Rubini

PS: correct me if I´m wrong: Fido and others acoustic torpedos were eletric ones and didn´t had visible trail over water? Is this correct?

This is correct. Also, the Fido's, at least, were much smaller, less powerful, and slow. (The reason for this is a powerful motor would make too much noise and prevent the torpedo from "listening".) So, there would be some hope of surviving a hit.


Anyway, really nice work.

[Captain Nemo]

Originally Posted by TorpX

Also, the Fido's, at least, were much smaller, less powerful, and slow. (The reason for this is a powerful motor would make too much noise and prevent the torpedo from "listening".) So, there would be some hope of surviving a hit.

Their maximum speed was around 12 knots, so in theory a u-boat could out run a Fido on the surface. Unfortunately for the u-boat men they didn't know of Fido's existence, so crash diving was the preferred option. The Allies officially called Fido the Mark 24 Mine to cover up the fact it was an acoustic torpedo.

This sounds like a great addition to the game, well done Rubini.

Nemo

[Jimbuna]

A few links on the 'mine'

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTUS_WWII.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_24_Mine

http://www.uboat.net/allies/technical/fido.htm

http://www.history.navy.mil/museums/...l/history2.htm

[rik007]

Rubini, great one!


What are the odds in bad wheather? Or when the boat is running silent? Or is this torpedo a standard acoustic torpedo cloned from the game and should I ask Ubi?

[Rubini]

Originally Posted by rik007

Rubini, great one!


What are the odds in bad wheather? Or when the boat is running silent? Or is this torpedo a standard acoustic torpedo cloned from the game and should I ask Ubi?

LOL...Yes, you are right !

The acoustic in the mod isn´t a clone but obviously uses the same type of controllers...so it will behaviour like ubi´s one.

It have the same goods and bads (ready here: limitations) like the original ones. I yet didn´t see it at big waves, but this will be not common in game because the torpedo bombers will not find you easily in bad wheather.

The best manouver is crash dive, but stopping or going very slow also help. But is very dangerous stay in their action area anyway...they can be erratic too and then you are dead.

Having some issues with the RND groups...need to fix it as last work before release.