What kind of country does this?

Torvald Von Mansee · 04-02-10, 09:54 PM

I was watching The Dog Whisperer, and Cesar had some dogs rescued from a Mexican animal shelter. Guess what? It was revealed that some animal shelters in Mexico euthanize animals via ELECTROCUTION.

Seriously wtf!?!?!? Just because it's CHEAP?!?!?!?

And **** off in advance to a certain Finn who will come in here and say: "Well, the U.S. does a, b. c.." Two wrongs don't make a right.

frau kaleun · 04-02-10, 10:03 PM

I worked for a while in a vet clinic and of course sometimes we had to euthanize animals. We did it in as humane a fashion as possible and even that was difficult enough to take at times.

Electrocution - I can't even imagine. Do they even drug them unconscious first? I guess not, if they had the drugs for that then surely they'd just use a little more to finish the job.

Torvald Von Mansee · 04-02-10, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

I worked for a while in a vet clinic and of course sometimes we had to euthanize animals. We did it in as humane a fashion as possible and even that was difficult enough to take at times.

Electrocution - I can't even imagine.

When I was about three or so, I was electrocuted by accident for a few mins before I got rescued. I can imagine it very easily. It's absolutely cruel. And they do it because it's CHEAP. It makes me wish there was Hell/Purgatory or karma.

TLAM Strike · 04-02-10, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

When I was about three or so, I was electrocuted by accident for a few mins before I got rescued. I can imagine it very easily.

For a few minutes?! Damn... I got zapped by a fuse box breaker once for a few seconds and it left my hand tingling for an hour but that must have been horrible. You must have been lucky to survive?

Torvald Von Mansee · 04-03-10, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

For a few minutes?! Damn... I got zapped by a fuse box breaker once for a few seconds and it left my hand tingling for an hour but that must have been horrible. You must have been lucky to survive?

Well, yes. It certainly seemed like several minutes, and I'm told it probably was. My hand was clenched around a faucet, and the current was coming from somewhere else in the house via the pipes. I couldn't unclench my hand!!!

Skybird · 04-03-10, 02:45 AM

Pigs in meat factories get slaughtered by electrocuting them first to make them unconscious, before they get hooked up and spilled with boiling water (to help removing the bristles). It is estimated that this works only in 99% of the cases. That means one in hundred may be brewed while being all conscious.

Also, chickenget hooked up on the line with their legs, and their heads then gets dunked into a liquid that is meant to kill them or to deaden them. Again, some of them struggle so hard that while the line moves through the space with the tub they manage to keep their heads out of it. This has as a consequences that they move fully conscious into the next section. Go figure.

Etc.

Staff in such fsactories tends to have become insensitive, too, working under time pressure. I hgave occasionalyl seen horrifying pictures of humans treating animals like any dead matter. Lifting cattle with cranes and the limb being ripped out of the joints, or using cattles tick at their gebtials to make the animals crawl off the lorry on four broken legs, on its ankles. It'S ashaming, and horrifying.

People eat that plenty of meat only becasue they are not aware of what is haüpüening inside these factories. If they would be, you would have an exploding number of vegetarians, I'm sure.

Considering how resource-intensive it is to produce one kilogram of meat, there is even less excuse for the mass-production of meat in indutrial ways.

I havew been vegetarian for over ten years, then eased it a bit. I eat meat only rarely, and when so, I buy from a local farmer where the slaughtering is done in a small farmer's collective, not in one of these industrial animal KZs. Saves the poor creature the stressful transports and the horror of experiencing hell and pain.

I am most radical in my willingness of what to do with these factories.

frau kaleun · 04-02-10, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

When I was about three or so, I was electrocuted by accident for a few mins before I got rescued. I can imagine it very easily. It's absolutely cruel. And they do it because it's CHEAP. It makes me wish there was Hell/Purgatory or karma.

I was electrocuted too, when I was around 8 or 9. We had an old refrigerator that was plugged in down in our basement, somehow I think some old metal window fan fell down behind it and damaged the electrical cord, or else we'd gotten water seeping in around the back of it that we couldn't see - anyway I don't know what actually caused it but I went down one day to get something out of there and grabbed the metal handle to open the door and ZAP. Threw me backwards pretty hard, which I guess was lucky because the force of it was enough to pull my hand away once the door swung all the way open and I wasn't heavy enough to tip the thing over when I went down.

What really pissed me off was that I'd been telling my mother for days that I thought I was getting a bit of a shock, like a static electricity thing you get in the winter, whenever I touched the handle - but she didn't believe me.

I had nightmares for years after that about being struck by lightning. And I opened the door of that damn thing with a wooden broom handle until we got rid of it, even though I was assured the problem had long since been taken care of.

I know how it feels, I just can't imagine doing that to some poor animal as a means of euthanization. I know the sad reality is that unwanted domestic critters end up being put down but geez.

04-02-10, 11:41 PM

I got thrown for a ride when I tryed to remove a stuck prong from the electric socket, with metal plyers/pliers. Whew! Electricity is rough stuff. Nothing humane about that.

UnderseaLcpl · 04-02-10, 11:53 PM

Sadly enough, this kind of thing happens all around the world all the time, and even here in the US. My experience is mostly with horses, rather than dogs, but this kind of inhumane treatment of animals is disturbingly common.

I once assisted a horse rescue in the retrieval of some abused and neglected horses from a "ranch" that, in addition to beating horses to saddle-break them, cut the throats of lame or diseased horses and dumped the bodies in a dry stock tank.

As perturbatory as that is, what's even wierder is that it makes no sense to do such a thing. Most souless a-holes who want to slaughter ailing horses or severe problem horses at least send them to be made into glue, dogfood, horsehair goods, and various other things. Slitting their throats and dumping them in a ditch is not only evil and wasteful, it's also stupid because it helps to spread disease to the healthy horses in the area. I only wish I'd had a chance to confront the (insert 45-letter combi-cussword here) who owned the place so I could have horse-whipped him to death, or at least punched him.

I don't often agree with everyone's favorite crazy animal rights group to bash, PETA, but things like that make me see things from their perspective a little more.

Buddahaid · 04-03-10, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

When I was about three or so, I was electrocuted by accident for a few mins before I got rescued. I can imagine it very easily. It's absolutely cruel. And they do it because it's CHEAP. It makes me wish there was Hell/Purgatory or karma.

How come your still alive? A zombie? Electrocution means your dead by electric shock!

Glad you survived.

04-02-10, 09:54 PM	#1
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	What kind of country does this? I was watching The Dog Whisperer, and Cesar had some dogs rescued from a Mexican animal shelter. Guess what? It was revealed that some animal shelters in Mexico euthanize animals via ELECTROCUTION. Seriously wtf!?!?!? Just because it's CHEAP?!?!?!? And **** off in advance to a certain Finn who will come in here and say: "Well, the U.S. does a, b. c.." Two wrongs don't make a right. __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

04-03-10, 02:45 AM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,613 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Pigs in meat factories get slaughtered by electrocuting them first to make them unconscious, before they get hooked up and spilled with boiling water (to help removing the bristles). It is estimated that this works only in 99% of the cases. That means one in hundred may be brewed while being all conscious. Also, chickenget hooked up on the line with their legs, and their heads then gets dunked into a liquid that is meant to kill them or to deaden them. Again, some of them struggle so hard that while the line moves through the space with the tub they manage to keep their heads out of it. This has as a consequences that they move fully conscious into the next section. Go figure. Etc. Staff in such fsactories tends to have become insensitive, too, working under time pressure. I hgave occasionalyl seen horrifying pictures of humans treating animals like any dead matter. Lifting cattle with cranes and the limb being ripped out of the joints, or using cattles tick at their gebtials to make the animals crawl off the lorry on four broken legs, on its ankles. It'S ashaming, and horrifying. People eat that plenty of meat only becasue they are not aware of what is haüpüening inside these factories. If they would be, you would have an exploding number of vegetarians, I'm sure. Considering how resource-intensive it is to produce one kilogram of meat, there is even less excuse for the mass-production of meat in indutrial ways. I havew been vegetarian for over ten years, then eased it a bit. I eat meat only rarely, and when so, I buy from a local farmer where the slaughtering is done in a small farmer's collective, not in one of these industrial animal KZs. Saves the poor creature the stressful transports and the horror of experiencing hell and pain. I am most radical in my willingness of what to do with these factories. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

04-02-10, 11:53 PM	#9
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sadly enough, this kind of thing happens all around the world all the time, and even here in the US. My experience is mostly with horses, rather than dogs, but this kind of inhumane treatment of animals is disturbingly common. I once assisted a horse rescue in the retrieval of some abused and neglected horses from a "ranch" that, in addition to beating horses to saddle-break them, cut the throats of lame or diseased horses and dumped the bodies in a dry stock tank. As perturbatory as that is, what's even wierder is that it makes no sense to do such a thing. Most souless a-holes who want to slaughter ailing horses or severe problem horses at least send them to be made into glue, dogfood, horsehair goods, and various other things. Slitting their throats and dumping them in a ditch is not only evil and wasteful, it's also stupid because it helps to spread disease to the healthy horses in the area. I only wish I'd had a chance to confront the (insert 45-letter combi-cussword here) who owned the place so I could have horse-whipped him to death, or at least punched him. I don't often agree with everyone's favorite crazy animal rights group to bash, PETA, but things like that make me see things from their perspective a little more. __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

04-02-10, 10:03 PM	#2
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I worked for a while in a vet clinic and of course sometimes we had to euthanize animals. We did it in as humane a fashion as possible and even that was difficult enough to take at times. Electrocution - I can't even imagine. Do they even drug them unconscious first? I guess not, if they had the drugs for that then surely they'd just use a little more to finish the job.

04-02-10, 11:41 PM	#8
Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I got thrown for a ride when I tryed to remove a stuck prong from the electric socket, with metal plyers/pliers. Whew! Electricity is rough stuff. Nothing humane about that.