What is this Mystery Ship?

applesthecat · 03-14-10, 12:22 AM

I came across this ship in a north channel close to Rathlin Island. It was stationary.

The interesting thing about it was that neither the TDC, nor any other mechanism for identifying targets, recognized it. Nor was it identified on the charts, so I did have that option enabled. As it if it wasn't there. I was able to torpedo it, multiple times, and it exploded in flames, but never suffered any damage.

It has two huge lights on top. There was a smaller ship next to it, that was identified and easily sunk, but not it.

Is this some kind of navigation aid that is there for appearances, but is not an actual target that can be destroyed?

Sag75 · 03-14-10, 12:34 AM

She's a lightship! she is considered "environment" I guess, so you can't sink her.. and she's always neutral!

read the GWX manual at page 416..

Wilhelm Groß · 03-14-10, 12:44 AM

Cool, Im yet to encounter one of these. I wonder if you surfaced near if it would report your position to those nasty RAF planes?

applesthecat · 03-14-10, 01:31 AM

Sag, that's interesting. I figured she must be a lightship, but why neutral? The only ships that pass through there would be British or Irish. I did mistakenly sink two Irish ships in that location, but if that lightship was out of commission, that would help the German war effort, no? It certainly couldn't hurt Germany, but it could make life for the British convoys that much more hazardous. So I figured she deserved to be sunk. But the game does not allow it to sustain damage. Which is odd.

Sailor Steve · 03-14-10, 05:49 PM

Yes, it could hurt Germany. The lightship you sink today might warn of the rocks your fellow u-boat runs aground on next week. Lightships were considered off-limits. They acted as at-sea lighthouses for everyone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightvessel

Vipper · 03-15-10, 03:45 AM

You can sink them (at least on GWX 2.0 i think) but they are very hard to sink cause they are stronger than superbattleships and gives nothing worth of it...Good thing is that around them is often enemy ships moored

Fader_Berg · 03-15-10, 08:34 AM

I've seen this ship some 60 km south east of Dundee with a frighter along with it. Just lying there and doing nothing. 'Redemption' or something... (can't recall what it says) wtf is that?

maillemaker · 03-15-10, 09:27 AM

I have frequently seen such lightships at the NW corner of Denmark, off the point of Skagen.

Steve

flakmonkey · 03-15-10, 01:25 PM

Just a note of warning:
The little ship next to the lightship is there so your watch crew can "see" the lightship, since the lightship itself is classed as environmental they cant see it directly and wouldnt call out "ship spotted" or drop the tc, so to avoid collisions there is a standard ship placed near it, sinking this ship anit a good idea.

maillemaker · 03-15-10, 02:27 PM

I love your picture of the uboat on the beach, flakmonkey!

Steve

applesthecat · 03-15-10, 04:44 PM

Thanks Flakmonkey, lol. I sank that ship anyway. Which is okay, I won't be in that area again. I don't even know why it is there. The water is quite deep and it is miles and miles from shore.

Jimbuna · 03-15-10, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vipper

You can sink them (at least on GWX 2.0 i think) but they are very hard to sink cause they are stronger than superbattleships and gives nothing worth of it...Good thing is that around them is often enemy ships moored

Wasn't aware they could be sunk....environmental and devoid of a damage model.

The rest has been answered by flakmonkey.

KL-alfman · 03-15-10, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Wasn't aware they could be sunk....environmental and devoid of a damage model.

The rest has been answered by flakmonkey.

guessing it was referred to the "companion-ship" not the light-ship (Feuerschiff in german) itself.

Fader_Berg · 03-16-10, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flakmonkey

...sinking this ship anit a good idea.

I always sink those ships. They reappear next patrol too...

Jimbuna · 03-16-10, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KL-alfman

guessing it was referred to the "companion-ship" not the light-ship (Feuerschiff in german) itself.

Yeah, more than likely the case.

03-14-10, 12:22 AM	#1
applesthecat Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 135 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	What is this Mystery Ship? I came across this ship in a north channel close to Rathlin Island. It was stationary. The interesting thing about it was that neither the TDC, nor any other mechanism for identifying targets, recognized it. Nor was it identified on the charts, so I did have that option enabled. As it if it wasn't there. I was able to torpedo it, multiple times, and it exploded in flames, but never suffered any damage. It has two huge lights on top. There was a smaller ship next to it, that was identified and easily sunk, but not it. Is this some kind of navigation aid that is there for appearances, but is not an actual target that can be destroyed?

03-14-10, 12:34 AM	#2
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	She's a lightship! she is considered "environment" I guess, so you can't sink her.. and she's always neutral! read the GWX manual at page 416.. __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

03-14-10, 05:49 PM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Yes, it could hurt Germany. The lightship you sink today might warn of the rocks your fellow u-boat runs aground on next week. Lightships were considered off-limits. They acted as at-sea lighthouses for everyone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightvessel __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-15-10, 08:34 AM	#7
Fader_Berg 中国水兵 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Uppland, Sweden Posts: 278 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	I've seen this ship some 60 km south east of Dundee with a frighter along with it. Just lying there and doing nothing. 'Redemption' or something... (can't recall what it says) wtf is that? __________________ patSH3r-developer, (https://fb.tuxxor.net) Type II junkie

03-15-10, 01:25 PM	#9
flakmonkey Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Staffordshire, Uk Posts: 944 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Just a note of warning: The little ship next to the lightship is there so your watch crew can "see" the lightship, since the lightship itself is classed as environmental they cant see it directly and wouldnt call out "ship spotted" or drop the tc, so to avoid collisions there is a standard ship placed near it, sinking this ship anit a good idea. __________________

03-14-10, 12:44 AM	#3
Wilhelm Groß Nub Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Cool, Im yet to encounter one of these. I wonder if you surfaced near if it would report your position to those nasty RAF planes?

03-14-10, 01:31 AM	#4
applesthecat Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 135 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Sag, that's interesting. I figured she must be a lightship, but why neutral? The only ships that pass through there would be British or Irish. I did mistakenly sink two Irish ships in that location, but if that lightship was out of commission, that would help the German war effort, no? It certainly couldn't hurt Germany, but it could make life for the British convoys that much more hazardous. So I figured she deserved to be sunk. But the game does not allow it to sustain damage. Which is odd.

03-15-10, 03:45 AM	#6
Vipper Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 122 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	You can sink them (at least on GWX 2.0 i think) but they are very hard to sink cause they are stronger than superbattleships and gives nothing worth of it...Good thing is that around them is often enemy ships moored

03-15-10, 09:27 AM	#8
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I have frequently seen such lightships at the NW corner of Denmark, off the point of Skagen. Steve

03-15-10, 02:27 PM	#10
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I love your picture of the uboat on the beach, flakmonkey! Steve

03-15-10, 04:44 PM	#11
applesthecat Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 135 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Thanks Flakmonkey, lol. I sank that ship anyway. Which is okay, I won't be in that area again. I don't even know why it is there. The water is quite deep and it is miles and miles from shore.