i did the unthinkable

Flopper · 03-03-10, 11:41 AM

Boss called my cell phone, and in my haste to shut down sh3 and log back into my work machine, i did a save and exit. WHILE SUBMERGED.

Later, I picked a save from when I was in port... it worked for a while, then CTD. I saved while submerged once before, and I think I ended up deleting everything and having to redownload from steam, and reinstall everything. Please say it isn't so!

Panser · 03-03-10, 12:11 PM

As far as I was aware, the saving while submerged bug can just cause you to sink to your doom. Am I unaware of something more sinister?

tomfon · 03-03-10, 12:17 PM

Why don't you load a previous save or restart your patrol? It is just a ctd and personally i've never read before anything about formating the disk or re-installing sh3 after experiencing a ctd.

Flopper · 03-03-10, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Panser

As far as I was aware, the saving while submerged bug can just cause you to sink to your doom. Am I unaware of something more sinister?

I think it's far more sinister that that, as in "welcome to ctd land." I will try starting ANOTHER new career.

Threesixtyci · 03-03-10, 02:21 PM

Doesn't make sense to me. A save state isn't going to modify the code like that.

You didn't happen to hit that surface cruise crew button? That's the only thing I know of that causes constant CTD's.

Flopper · 03-03-10, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Threesixtyci

Doesn't make sense to me. A save state isn't going to modify the code like that.

Right then. I double dog dare you to save and exit while submerged!

(I actually don't recommend this)

All I know is, right after I clicked "save and exit" I said some bad words, because I was geeked hard the last time I had done it. And sure enough, load up the save, CTD. And load previous save, CTD. Later today I'll start a new career, and see. I expect a CTD, unfortunately.

I also did NOT make a backup of my local files as soon as I had my last "install" from steam, so I may have to go through another download, and all that again. I'll update when I know something, maybe it's just some bizarre coincidence, but I hadn't had a CTD for quite a while, and expected to be geeked from my error (I had promised myself NEVER to save while submerged, but was distracted.)

Forgot to mention, no, I don't use those crew configuration buttons.

frau kaleun · 03-03-10, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Threesixtyci

You didn't happen to hit that surface cruise crew button? That's the only thing I know of that causes constant CTD's.

You know I've always wondered about that, the GWX manual mentions it too IIRC. But I use all of those buttons to move crew around and always have and it's never been a problem.

Threesixtyci · 03-03-10, 05:08 PM

Maybe, I should rephrased that. It's the only thing I've heard of that causes CTD's. I never used those buttons myself; and after reading about it in that GWX manual, i never ventured to try.

As for saving submerged and reloading from there, I think I did that once in vanillia (remember I did that in case I missed, which I did, so reloaded... didn't exit the game entirely though, could have made a difference, i guess.) and don't remember anything that serious happening. Think all it did was erase all my plot points and reset the torpedo computer. Don't remember having a CTD problem, or it killing the career can't recall if the sub broke or not; don't think it did. I could test it out again with GWX.... I just never bothered, because GWX takes so long to load up.

I follow a general rule for saving. As in, I don't do it when there are any visible ships nearby. So being submerged while saving isn't really much of a problem when following the rule. And I'll just pause the game, if I have something that needs to be done, when my save rule can't be followed. But I don't use my PC for anything serious. Only use it for entertainment. So, I don't have to worry about any Boss forcing me to do something on *my* time.

Jimbuna · 03-03-10, 05:19 PM

Try going back to a previous save and if that doesn't work, start a new career.

Sailor Steve · 03-03-10, 05:50 PM

When I'm in the middle of an action and have to leave suddenly, I always just shut it off. I know you're not supposed to do that ever, but it saves a lot of headaches with the game.

Apache312 · 03-03-10, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

When I'm in the middle of an action and have to leave suddenly, I always just shut it off. I know you're not supposed to do that ever, but it saves a lot of headaches with the game.

Thats a good idea Sailor Steve. I didnt think about that.

Flopper · 03-03-10, 11:37 PM

Okay, I started a new career. Made it through 2 patrols, sunk 3 targets near Gibraltar, escaped from an approaching dd, now Sept. 6, docked at Corrientes supply ship. I think I'm all okay now.

Thanks for listening, and for the advise. I don't believe I'll save while submerged (or near land, or near a ship) again! I'm glad the career I had to abandon was fairly new!

03-03-10, 11:41 AM	#1
Flopper Weps Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Asheville, NC, USA Posts: 356 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	i did the unthinkable Boss called my cell phone, and in my haste to shut down sh3 and log back into my work machine, i did a save and exit. WHILE SUBMERGED. Later, I picked a save from when I was in port... it worked for a while, then CTD. I saved while submerged once before, and I think I ended up deleting everything and having to redownload from steam, and reinstall everything. Please say it isn't so! Last edited by Flopper; 03-03-10 at 12:23 PM. Reason: i removed a sentence about doing a low level format, which i didn't mean to be taken literally, sorry.

03-03-10, 12:11 PM	#2
Panser Machinist's Mate Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lincs, UK Posts: 124 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	As far as I was aware, the saving while submerged bug can just cause you to sink to your doom. Am I unaware of something more sinister? __________________ In danger of becoming the resident Windows 7 apologist

03-03-10, 12:17 PM	#3
tomfon Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CK7662 Posts: 918 Downloads: 178 Uploads: 4	Why don't you load a previous save or restart your patrol? It is just a ctd and personally i've never read before anything about formating the disk or re-installing sh3 after experiencing a ctd. __________________ "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned." - Richard P. Feynman [1918/1988] "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan Mods for SH3

03-03-10, 05:19 PM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,525 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Try going back to a previous save and if that doesn't work, start a new career. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-03-10, 05:50 PM	#10
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	When I'm in the middle of an action and have to leave suddenly, I always just shut it off. I know you're not supposed to do that ever, but it saves a lot of headaches with the game. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-03-10, 02:21 PM	#5
Threesixtyci Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CC, Texas Posts: 114 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Doesn't make sense to me. A save state isn't going to modify the code like that. You didn't happen to hit that surface cruise crew button? That's the only thing I know of that causes constant CTD's.

03-03-10, 05:08 PM	#8
Threesixtyci Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CC, Texas Posts: 114 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Maybe, I should rephrased that. It's the only thing I've heard of that causes CTD's. I never used those buttons myself; and after reading about it in that GWX manual, i never ventured to try. As for saving submerged and reloading from there, I think I did that once in vanillia (remember I did that in case I missed, which I did, so reloaded... didn't exit the game entirely though, could have made a difference, i guess.) and don't remember anything that serious happening. Think all it did was erase all my plot points and reset the torpedo computer. Don't remember having a CTD problem, or it killing the career can't recall if the sub broke or not; don't think it did. I could test it out again with GWX.... I just never bothered, because GWX takes so long to load up. I follow a general rule for saving. As in, I don't do it when there are any visible ships nearby. So being submerged while saving isn't really much of a problem when following the rule. And I'll just pause the game, if I have something that needs to be done, when my save rule can't be followed. But I don't use my PC for anything serious. Only use it for entertainment. So, I don't have to worry about any Boss forcing me to do something on my time.

03-03-10, 11:37 PM	#12
Flopper Weps Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Asheville, NC, USA Posts: 356 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	Okay, I started a new career. Made it through 2 patrols, sunk 3 targets near Gibraltar, escaped from an approaching dd, now Sept. 6, docked at Corrientes supply ship. I think I'm all okay now. Thanks for listening, and for the advise. I don't believe I'll save while submerged (or near land, or near a ship) again! I'm glad the career I had to abandon was fairly new!