and they call us "Astro turfers"

[SteamWake]

They call us tea baggers, asto turfers, angry mobs, manufactured and contrived 'hate' for the black man in office.

So whos 'manufacturing' things now?

Originally Posted by The New York Post

WASHINGTON -- President Obama yesterday rolled out the red carpet -- and handed out doctors' white coats as well, just so nobody missed his hard-sell health-care message.

In a heavy-handed attempt at reviving support for health-care reform, the White House orchestrated a massive photo op to buttress its claim that front-line physicians support Obama.

"Members of the medical community -- who deal with red tape day in and day out -- rightly recognize that the Democrats' government takeover would weaken the doctor-patient relationship that is so critical to making the right health-care decisions," he said.

Obama made no mention of the "public option" -- a controversial government-run insurance plan favored by liberal Democrats -- in his Rose Garden spiel.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...EeRQbxCC0TNZHN

[nikimcbee]

Oh, I thought this thread was going to be about Aaron Rodgers, as he is now an expert in the turf in the metrodome.

Nevermind.

[mookiemookie]

If you think the insurance companies haven't poured millions of dollars into whipping up the masses against real health care reform, you're fooling yourself.

But by all means, go ahead and let millions of people die because your corporate masters want to score cheap political points against the other side.

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

If you think the insurance companies haven't poured millions of dollars into whipping up the masses against real health care reform, you're fooling yourself.

But by all means, go ahead and let millions of people die because your corporate masters want to score cheap political points against the other side.

So whats to hide?

Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/po...-63557217.html

[FIREWALL]

It was a garden party. The Dr.s got free eats, laughed and left.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

If you think the insurance companies haven't poured millions of dollars into whipping up the masses against real health care reform, you're fooling yourself.

But by all means, go ahead and let millions of people die because your corporate masters want to score cheap political points against the other side.

Can you directly link an insurance company that has poured millions into whipping up a frenzy against healthcare reform?

[SteamWake]

I would think that the insurance industry would be against health care simply due to the fact of .. how in the hell are they going to compete with an industry that operates at a loss

But yea I dont see any orginized efforts by 'big insurance' on this thing one way or the other. In fact there conspicuous by their abscence.

[AVGWarhawk]

Of course the insurance companies are against healthcare sponsored by the government because no one can compete with the government. However, I did not see booths and banners sponsored by an insurance company at the march on Washington a few weeks ago. To be honest, I do not believe I have heard one peep from the insurance companies on this healthcare reform.

[mookiemookie]

Keep being good little insurance company sheep:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11814.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125107323271252625.html

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Keep being good little insurance company sheep:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11814.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125107323271252625.html

Dude, you said:

"If you think the insurance companies haven't poured millions of dollars into whipping up the masses against real health care reform, you're fooling yourself. "

The links you posted are mainly stories about the activism of private citizens, not company organized efforts.

Example:

Dan Lucas, a database operations manager for Regence Blue Cross Blue Shield of Oregon, said he got upset when he heard the White House demonize health plans as profit centers, when many, like his employer, are not-for-profit companies. He decided without coaching from AHIP or Regence Blue Cross to take that message to Rep. David Wu's (D., Ore.) town-hall meeting in...

Mr Lucas has a right to voice his opinion to his elected representative like anyone else. Although it seems inconvenient to the ruling party, Americans do not loose their right to free speech just because they have a personal stake in a particular political debate.

Keep being good little insurance company sheep:

You should have mentioned the $380 million they have recently spent in their efforts to fight healthcare reform.

The links you posted are mainly stories about the activism of private citizens, not company organized efforts.

Actually no.

A "Town Hall Tips" memo written by America's Health Insurance Plans

A little story about Mr Lucas going to a meeting does not negate that.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by August

Dude, you said:

"If you think the insurance companies haven't poured millions of dollars into whipping up the masses against real health care reform, you're fooling yourself. "

The links you posted are mainly stories about the activism of private citizens, not company organized efforts.

Fine, you can take it from Wendell Potter, ex-Cigna head of PR:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07312009/profile.html

[Cohaagen]

What am "teabaggers"?

What am "astro turfers" (sic)?

What am are de black man in de office?

Excuse me for my ignorance, I'm a foreigner - I haven't a clue what you're banging on about, SteamingWake. There are quite a lot of us who don't live in America. I am English-speaking, don't worry.

I don't know a thing about teabagging - sounds a bit suspect to me, really. Sure I saw something about it in a John Waters film during my student days.

Anyway, never mind that, that's not important - are you for the Scottish Socialist Party, the SNP, the Scottish Conservative & Unionist Party, the Scottish Liberal Democrats, or Scottish Labour, Mr Wake? That's what I'm talking about. There may be an independence referendum in the next few years.

It's happening in the country I live in, therefore it is the most important thing in the world. I'm typing about it right now, you know. Well, what do you think? That Alec Salmond, eh? Sean Connery on a banknote, what? Well, come on! Or are you one of these so-called "birthers", who thinks Sir Sean was born in Trinidad and is just faking the accent?

[SteamWake]

Steamingwake

[August]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

A little story about Mr Lucas going to a meeting does not negate that.

And a "Town Hall Tips memo" does not equate to "millions of dollars spent whipping up the masses".