No no we cant have this !

[SteamWake]

Mothers children court ordered into public schools after 4 years of home schooling. The problem? The teaching has a religious slant to it.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4727161/

Home Skoolin based on the bible , yeah tell yur kids that the sun revolves around the earth, but don't be surprised if the schools say your science is crap and doesn't really count as science and as such doesn't meet the curriculum standards for home schooling

[CaptainHaplo]

I went to a private school for many years. I also think home schooling is a good idea in certain situations.

HOWEVER! Everyone is jumping to conclusions here. This is an issue being closely followed by responsible media, as well as folks like wral - and the facts are honestly unknown.

What we do know is the judge did say the children need to go to public school. We DO NOT KNOW WHY! All we have is the say so of the woman who just lost on this issue. The mother just lost this battle - so of course she is going to spin it any way she can. The reporter helps because he/she see a story that can be made sensational and controversial.

Having been through a VERY messy divorce and 5 years of visitation and custody battles, I know how easy it would be to get the public filing and pull some quote out of it to make it support this story. I can also see where the judge would order public school based purely on what little I know of this.

In the state of North Carolina, judges almost always award joint custody, unless there is a blasted good reason not to. Thus each parent has equal say in things like how their child is educated, For this to be an issue it looks as if the mother has primary care of the children. So how is the father going to have equal say if she home schools the kids? He wouldn't. He would have zero input that would be considered - because the mom in her home will do whatever she wants, just like he will in his home. So - there is no way to accomplish the desired goal, which is having both parents involved in the education of their children. Unless the children go to public school. If they do, then both parents suddenly have equal access to the teacher and records.

Being familiar with how the courts work here - I strongly suspect this has nothing at all to do with religion, and everything about involving both parents in this important part of their children's lives.

I could be entirely wrong - but before we go off the deep end, lets wait and see what the judge actually says in his writen ruling. While its easy to get stirred up by the "story" - it is very possible that is all it is - a story - sensationalized and spun by a reporter looking for a headline - and a disgruntled mother who didnt get her way.

And Tribesman - once again you show your ..... blissfulness. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach that the sun revolves around the earth. But of course - you ignoring fact (or making up fake ones) shouldn't suprise anyone...

[Digital_Trucker]

Good points, Hap. I wonder, too, if the mother will not be able to stay at home now that they are divorced. It would be extremely difficult to home school the children while working a full time job.

But, as you say, we should wait until we know the "rest of the story" before we jump off the deep end.

[CaptainHaplo]

Well I do know a bit about the way they do Child Support here. It is horribly unfair. I got custody of my son nearly 2 years ago, and his mother has been "in school" for the last 5 - online only. During the 3 years she had custody, and when I recieved custody - she continued to claim her schooling made it impossible for her to work. Since I worked, and she didn't, the CS was calculated for me to have full "responsibility" share wise regarding the moneys needed to keep him sheltered, fed etc. Thus my CS was initially computed to be around 50% of my income. Needless to say that was... exorbitant in the extreme. It finally was set at the highest % allowed by law.

Now that I have custody, because I have remained employed and stable, while she has continued to pursue her "education", her total child support due is the state minimum - $50 a month. To date, I haven't recieved a dime. The amount was also set due to the fact she has other minor children that she is responsible for.

So she sits at home, collects welfare and food stamps from the state for herself and her other kids, sends her now husband out to work when he can find it (at least he tries and is willing), and whines about how life is unfair. 5 years later she is supposed to finally get her 2 year degree, but of course she plans on "continuing her education" instead of actually going out and becoming productive. Not to mention she gets to apply for all kinds of federal and state "grants" for her "education".

***Yes I know - I really made horrible choices when I was much younger....***

Because this woman has 3 children, and if she did not work during the marriage, if the guy has a decent job its very likely his CS amount will be rather high. She can claim no skills, and thus have her responsibility totally negated. She may have to get a job, depending on that amount. It is one of the true inequities of the system in place here, how they figure the numbers.

And Tribesman - once again you show your ..... blissfulness. Nowhere in the Bible does it teach that the sun revolves around the earth. But of course - you ignoring fact (or making up fake ones) shouldn't suprise anyone...

Really ?
If that were true then the church would have severe trouble finding scripture to back up the geocentrist view then.
So in famous heresy cases concerning heliocentric views was the passages of scripture the church used from the bible or some other book?
If someone was found to be guilty of saying things that were contrary to Holy Scripture would that Holy Scripture be the bible or some other book ?

You really make it too easy to rip apart your posts Haplo .

[Frame57]

You are right. We do not the details about it. The Judaic culture never used the scriptures to replace conventional education. You are right again the bible does not teach the sun revolves around the earth. This notion and many other erroneous ones arose in the dark ages along with a myriad of other superstitions and poor theological references. In Columbus' day people of science and sea faring men stil thought the earth was flat and that you could fall off the edge of it. Yet in Isaiah 40:22 and in Job 26:7 We see the earth as being a circle (Chugh) in hebrew which means "sphere". And Job states it is suspended by nothing. Pretty accurate I would say. If I were to have home schooled kids I would have to make clear distinctions between what is faith based and what is not. Kids obviously are not going to learn Algebra from the bible. But they certainly can learn about morals in society that are perfectly applicable.