SH III Encore edition: Starforce or not?

Antonin · 09-16-08, 07:32 PM

Today I finally received my copy of the Encore edition of SH III. It's a CD-sized pack that contains a SH II DVD and a SH III DVD. The pack is called "Strategic Simulations' Silent Hunter" and it says "2 games in one".

My understanding in purchasing this was that this version of SH III does not have Starforce.

However, on the back of the pack, along with the "Hunt. Hide. Kill" slogan and the screenshots and the Ubisoft, Quicktime, Encore and other logos is a "system requirements" paragraph that says at the end: "NOTICE: This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some DVD-RW and virtual drives."

This is the same message that was on my original copy of SH III, the one that caused problems with my DVD drive.

My question: is this a simple case of all the text that was on the original SH III box just being copied onto the Encore edition box?

In other words, does anybody know if this Encore version of SH III has Starforce?

Thanks for any clarification anyone can provide.

kylania · 09-16-08, 09:34 PM

What happened when you installed it? I'm assuming it's pretty cheap so might as well open it and find out and let us know? Please?

Reece · 09-16-08, 11:07 PM

When you install SHIII Starforce isn't installed untill you run it, if you have any files called Protect in the SilentHunterIII folder (not sure of the extension) then you have the Starforce files, if not you should be ok to run it,

anyone else confirm this?

If you do Run SHIII and you then have to restart your computer you now have Starforce, but fear not you can always run the removal tool, this does work.

kylania · 09-17-08, 12:16 AM

Can you still run SHIII after removing the StarForce stuff? I'm just sick of having to swap in the disc I've paid for twice, every time I want to play SH3.

Reece · 09-17-08, 12:20 AM

No!

When you remove starforce all is ok till you run SHIII again, then you are directed to reboot!

ReM · 09-17-08, 04:20 AM

The budget version (€ 5,00) comes without Starforce....maybe you would have been better of with that one...

09-17-08, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylania

Can you still run SHIII after removing the StarForce stuff? I'm just sick of having to swap in the disc I've paid for twice, every time I want to play SH3.

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Antonin · 09-17-08, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylania

What happened when you installed it? I'm assuming it's pretty cheap so might as well open it and find out and let us know? Please?

I did not install it yet because after my last go-round with the original SH III I do not want anything to do with Starforce. I do not even want it on my computer.

I was hoping maybe someone here had bought the bargain SH II/SH III edition and could confirm whether or not it uses Starforce.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can provide clarification.

Antonin · 09-17-08, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReM

The budget version (€ 5,00) comes without Starforce....maybe you would have been better of with that one...

I bought this particular "encore" edition from NWS Online store in the US. I don't know if that is the same bargain version sold in Europe. That's kind of what I am trying to find out here.

Jimbuna · 09-17-08, 02:57 PM

Starforce removal tool:

http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55

kylania · 09-17-08, 03:19 PM

Hehe, Amazon has a forum and people were discussing Starforce there. Some dweeb from EA was posting about how great DRM is and how it's for your protection and if you need to reinstall your game more than 3 times maybe you should have bought a computer that could play it in the first place.

EVERY post by this guy was marked as 'unhelpful' and one was even deleted by Amazon. Shame these companies keep putting this crap in their games.

Jimbuna · 09-17-08, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylania

Hehe, Amazon has a forum and people were discussing Starforce there. Some dweeb from EA was posting about how great DRM is and how it's for your protection and if you need to reinstall your game more than 3 times maybe you should have bought a computer that could play it in the first place.

EVERY post by this guy was marked as 'unhelpful' and one was even deleted by Amazon. Shame these companies keep putting this crap in their games.

Fully agree....certainly in the case where it can actually harm other computer files.

Erich dem Roten · 09-17-08, 07:09 PM

I never, EVER, allow StarForce on my computers.

Reece · 09-17-08, 11:35 PM

What always annoys me is that the genuine purchaser has to keep feeding in CD/DVD's and put up with these programs running in the background, but the pirate can run the game without any of this crap!

Seems all they are doing is promoting piracy! They should just concentrate on protecting the disk from being copied only!

Blacklight · 09-17-08, 11:45 PM

I've never found Starforce to be too bad. At least they didn't use SecuRom for their DRM.

09-16-08, 07:32 PM	#1
Antonin Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere near Iceland Posts: 46 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH III Encore edition: Starforce or not? Today I finally received my copy of the Encore edition of SH III. It's a CD-sized pack that contains a SH II DVD and a SH III DVD. The pack is called "Strategic Simulations' Silent Hunter" and it says "2 games in one". My understanding in purchasing this was that this version of SH III does not have Starforce. However, on the back of the pack, along with the "Hunt. Hide. Kill" slogan and the screenshots and the Ubisoft, Quicktime, Encore and other logos is a "system requirements" paragraph that says at the end: "NOTICE: This game contains technology intended to prevent copying that may conflict with some DVD-RW and virtual drives." This is the same message that was on my original copy of SH III, the one that caused problems with my DVD drive. My question: is this a simple case of all the text that was on the original SH III box just being copied onto the Encore edition box? In other words, does anybody know if this Encore version of SH III has Starforce? Thanks for any clarification anyone can provide.

09-16-08, 09:34 PM	#2
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	What happened when you installed it? I'm assuming it's pretty cheap so might as well open it and find out and let us know? Please? __________________

09-16-08, 11:07 PM	#3
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,701 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	When you install SHIII Starforce isn't installed untill you run it, if you have any files called Protect in the SilentHunterIII folder (not sure of the extension) then you have the Starforce files, if not you should be ok to run it, anyone else confirm this? If you do Run SHIII and you then have to restart your computer you now have Starforce, but fear not you can always run the removal tool, this does work. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

09-17-08, 12:16 AM	#4
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Can you still run SHIII after removing the StarForce stuff? I'm just sick of having to swap in the disc I've paid for twice, every time I want to play SH3. __________________

09-17-08, 12:20 AM	#5
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,701 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	No! When you remove starforce all is ok till you run SHIII again, then you are directed to reboot! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

09-17-08, 04:20 AM	#6
ReM Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brewsky, Galore Posts: 618 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	The budget version (€ 5,00) comes without Starforce....maybe you would have been better of with that one... __________________ Daddy cool

09-17-08, 02:57 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Starforce removal tool: http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-17-08, 03:19 PM	#11
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Hehe, Amazon has a forum and people were discussing Starforce there. Some dweeb from EA was posting about how great DRM is and how it's for your protection and if you need to reinstall your game more than 3 times maybe you should have bought a computer that could play it in the first place. EVERY post by this guy was marked as 'unhelpful' and one was even deleted by Amazon. Shame these companies keep putting this crap in their games. __________________

09-17-08, 07:09 PM	#13
Erich dem Roten Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 134 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I never, EVER, allow StarForce on my computers. __________________

09-17-08, 11:35 PM	#14
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,701 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	What always annoys me is that the genuine purchaser has to keep feeding in CD/DVD's and put up with these programs running in the background, but the pirate can run the game without any of this crap! Seems all they are doing is promoting piracy! They should just concentrate on protecting the disk from being copied only! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

09-17-08, 11:45 PM	#15
Blacklight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,507 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 0	I've never found Starforce to be too bad. At least they didn't use SecuRom for their DRM. __________________ Be my friend or be a mushroom cloud. "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes !"