My first experience with GWX...

maillemaker · 05-09-07, 07:10 AM

So last night I installed GWX. Uh oh.

Now I don't think this is a problem with GWX, I think it's a problem with my machine. I think I need to wipe it and start over, it's getting about 2 years since the last wipe.

First of all, I love the new sounds! They are awesome. I love the background crew noises. I love the scream of "Alaaaarm" whem you crash dive.

But I'm having all kinds of graphics problems now, and they get worse the longer I play, until the game crashes out.

The first thing I noticed is I went up on the bridge and my Watch Officer's hat extended up into the sky, while the brim of his hat extended off into the horizon.

Then the seawater started to change color. Basically it looked as if there were pink sheets of paper floating in the ocean all around us.

Then I went into the Command Room and you could see nothing. All geometry had, it seems "exploded", and the spikes of it make it look like you were inside of a crystal or something.

Then I sighted a ship, and when you looked at it through the periscope likewise its geometry turned it into a sharp-edged chunk of triangles with a smokestack.

Then all of the other graphics started to have little glowing blue flecks all over the screen - on the crew uniforms, around control panels, etc.

Eventually, the game crashed.

I'm going to try a complete uninstall/reinstall.

wireman · 05-09-07, 07:14 AM

man, what are you drinking?

wireman · 05-09-07, 07:15 AM

sounds neat.

Canovaro · 05-09-07, 07:17 AM

that sucks

Sounds like a graphics card driver problem, maybe you should check for latest drivers?

Henri II · 05-09-07, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canovaro

that sucks

Sounds like a graphics card driver problem, maybe you should check for latest drivers?

Or maybe not quite the latest, the game, after all, is somewhat dated already. Sometimes the newest drivers don't work very well with older games.

Maillemaker, is this just an SH3 problem or does it happen with other games also?

Kpt. Lehmann · 05-09-07, 10:59 AM

SOunds like it could be a failing gfx card as well.

HunterICX · 05-09-07, 11:02 AM

sounds like a Bad Driver
or that your GFX card is overcooking himself (the Heat)

Keelbuster · 05-09-07, 11:37 AM

That was happening to me with GWX (but not with NYGM). I'm convinced it's artifacting due to an overheating CPU/graphics card. I turned down my core voltage from 1.6v to 1.5 (not sure why it was at 1.6...) and the problem went away immediately. On a really hot day I get the occasional crash, and some artifacting. I think GWX just drives the system harder.

maillemaker · 05-09-07, 11:39 AM

Well the good news is I now work for a new computer company and should be able to buy high-end graphics cards at cost. Unfortunately I don't think my old computer supports PCI Express so I will likely need a new machine anyway.

I'd update my drivers, but the hotel I've been staying at has very spotty (like it hasn't worked for 3 weeks) internet access.

I think next paycheck I'm buying a new computer.

Steve

Jimbuna · 05-09-07, 12:23 PM

For what it's worth, my mb only supports AGP so I recently purchased the nvidia 7800 GS in the UK for £130. You do have options

TarJak · 05-09-07, 06:55 PM

I had a simliar problem with a new AGP card that wasn't quite compatible with my old AGP motherboard. Ended up springing for a new MB, PCI card and a new HDD to boot. Much better machine now

but much emptier wallet also.

Hartmann · 05-09-07, 09:09 PM

seems to be a graphic card problem, too much overclock or overheating.

My first experience in GWX was not soo good

,very dissapointed , i only sunk three ships with my ix-boat

i intercepted a convoy in bad weather and storm ,but after an attack and the sinking of a c3 cargo i´m forced to dive and evade two scorts, not very difficult, but since them i was unable to get a good intercept course to the convoy (damn weather

) i tried to follow the convoy two days but one scort forced me to dive again after some guns impacts in my boat, the fog , limited speed and TC makes things very very difficult.

finally i´ve lost the convoy and forced to return by fuel shortage, only sinking two small cargo ships and the boat full of torpedoes, but i have to recognise that i make as lot of mistakes

,

it´s not a criticism about GWX,

and it makes more challenge the game., the sinking of the C3 in the middle of the storm, the fire, explossions, and sinking motion was amazing. is more difficult obtain a good tonnage in some conditions, as in real life was. and the mistakes are very dangerous

iambecomelife · 05-09-07, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maillemaker

So last night I installed GWX. Uh oh.

Now I don't think this is a problem with GWX, I think it's a problem with my machine. I think I need to wipe it and start over, it's getting about 2 years since the last wipe.

First of all, I love the new sounds! They are awesome. I love the background crew noises. I love the scream of "Alaaaarm" whem you crash dive.

But I'm having all kinds of graphics problems now, and they get worse the longer I play, until the game crashes out.

The first thing I noticed is I went up on the bridge and my Watch Officer's hat extended up into the sky, while the brim of his hat extended off into the horizon.

Then the seawater started to change color. Basically it looked as if there were pink sheets of paper floating in the ocean all around us.

Then I went into the Command Room and you could see nothing. All geometry had, it seems "exploded", and the spikes of it make it look like you were inside of a crystal or something.

Then I sighted a ship, and when you looked at it through the periscope likewise its geometry turned it into a sharp-edged chunk of triangles with a smokestack.

Then all of the other graphics started to have little glowing blue flecks all over the screen - on the crew uniforms, around control panels, etc.

Eventually, the game crashed.

I'm going to try a complete uninstall/reinstall.

What are your graphics card specs? I have a 7900GT and I'm experiencing similar problems without GWX installed. In my case the distortions are caused by faulty memory on the card itself. GWX is most likely not the issue. Using alt-tab and then maximizing the game again resolves it temporarily.

maillemaker · 05-10-07, 06:45 AM

I think it might have been a thermal issue. Last night I used some compressed air and blew off all the heat sinks etc. The game ran fine all night, only crashing to BSD when I went to exit the game for the night.

I forget the graphics card, it's an ATI something-or-other. I bought the system as a complete system about 5 years ago. It's an Emachine T6000 with an AMD 3200+ 64 bit processor, 512MB RAM (need to upgrade), some ATI graphics card, yadda yadda.

Steve

maillemaker · 05-11-07, 07:10 AM

Well I have well and truly fixed the problem, I think. Couldn't convince da wife to let me buy a new computer, but I did buy a new graphics card, an ATI X1950. I don't know if it's a good card or not, but it was the most expensive AGP graphics card on the shelf at Best Buy, so I took it. I also got another 512MB of RAM bringing my system up to 1GB of memory. The processor itself is an AMD 3200+ 64bit processor. I figure that's still a lot of oomph even today. Also, since there was a place for it in my case, I went and installed another 80mm exhaust fan to help keep things cool.

05-09-07, 07:10 AM	#1
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	My first experience with GWX... So last night I installed GWX. Uh oh. Now I don't think this is a problem with GWX, I think it's a problem with my machine. I think I need to wipe it and start over, it's getting about 2 years since the last wipe. First of all, I love the new sounds! They are awesome. I love the background crew noises. I love the scream of "Alaaaarm" whem you crash dive. But I'm having all kinds of graphics problems now, and they get worse the longer I play, until the game crashes out. The first thing I noticed is I went up on the bridge and my Watch Officer's hat extended up into the sky, while the brim of his hat extended off into the horizon. Then the seawater started to change color. Basically it looked as if there were pink sheets of paper floating in the ocean all around us. Then I went into the Command Room and you could see nothing. All geometry had, it seems "exploded", and the spikes of it make it look like you were inside of a crystal or something. Then I sighted a ship, and when you looked at it through the periscope likewise its geometry turned it into a sharp-edged chunk of triangles with a smokestack. Then all of the other graphics started to have little glowing blue flecks all over the screen - on the crew uniforms, around control panels, etc. Eventually, the game crashed. I'm going to try a complete uninstall/reinstall.

05-09-07, 10:59 AM	#6
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	SOunds like it could be a failing gfx card as well. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

05-09-07, 11:02 AM	#7
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	sounds like a Bad Driver or that your GFX card is overcooking himself (the Heat) __________________

05-09-07, 11:37 AM	#8
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	That was happening to me with GWX (but not with NYGM). I'm convinced it's artifacting due to an overheating CPU/graphics card. I turned down my core voltage from 1.6v to 1.5 (not sure why it was at 1.6...) and the problem went away immediately. On a really hot day I get the occasional crash, and some artifacting. I think GWX just drives the system harder. __________________

05-09-07, 12:23 PM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	For what it's worth, my mb only supports AGP so I recently purchased the nvidia 7800 GS in the UK for £130. You do have options __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-09-07, 07:14 AM	#2
wireman Sparky Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 155 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	man, what are you drinking?

05-09-07, 07:15 AM	#3
wireman Sparky Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 155 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	sounds neat.

05-09-07, 07:17 AM	#4
Canovaro Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,062 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	that sucks Sounds like a graphics card driver problem, maybe you should check for latest drivers?

05-09-07, 11:39 AM	#9
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Well the good news is I now work for a new computer company and should be able to buy high-end graphics cards at cost. Unfortunately I don't think my old computer supports PCI Express so I will likely need a new machine anyway. I'd update my drivers, but the hotel I've been staying at has very spotty (like it hasn't worked for 3 weeks) internet access. I think next paycheck I'm buying a new computer. Steve

05-09-07, 06:55 PM	#11
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	I had a simliar problem with a new AGP card that wasn't quite compatible with my old AGP motherboard. Ended up springing for a new MB, PCI card and a new HDD to boot. Much better machine now but much emptier wallet also.

05-09-07, 09:09 PM	#12
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	seems to be a graphic card problem, too much overclock or overheating. My first experience in GWX was not soo good ,very dissapointed , i only sunk three ships with my ix-boat i intercepted a convoy in bad weather and storm ,but after an attack and the sinking of a c3 cargo i´m forced to dive and evade two scorts, not very difficult, but since them i was unable to get a good intercept course to the convoy (damn weather ) i tried to follow the convoy two days but one scort forced me to dive again after some guns impacts in my boat, the fog , limited speed and TC makes things very very difficult. finally i´ve lost the convoy and forced to return by fuel shortage, only sinking two small cargo ships and the boat full of torpedoes, but i have to recognise that i make as lot of mistakes , it´s not a criticism about GWX, and it makes more challenge the game., the sinking of the C3 in the middle of the storm, the fire, explossions, and sinking motion was amazing. is more difficult obtain a good tonnage in some conditions, as in real life was. and the mistakes are very dangerous __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

05-10-07, 06:45 AM	#14
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I think it might have been a thermal issue. Last night I used some compressed air and blew off all the heat sinks etc. The game ran fine all night, only crashing to BSD when I went to exit the game for the night. I forget the graphics card, it's an ATI something-or-other. I bought the system as a complete system about 5 years ago. It's an Emachine T6000 with an AMD 3200+ 64 bit processor, 512MB RAM (need to upgrade), some ATI graphics card, yadda yadda. Steve

05-11-07, 07:10 AM	#15
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Well I have well and truly fixed the problem, I think. Couldn't convince da wife to let me buy a new computer, but I did buy a new graphics card, an ATI X1950. I don't know if it's a good card or not, but it was the most expensive AGP graphics card on the shelf at Best Buy, so I took it. I also got another 512MB of RAM bringing my system up to 1GB of memory. The processor itself is an AMD 3200+ 64bit processor. I figure that's still a lot of oomph even today. Also, since there was a place for it in my case, I went and installed another 80mm exhaust fan to help keep things cool.