I keep hearing about " Other games are buggy when they come out "

[fastfed]

I have not posted anything negative about this game, I actually just packed the game up and put it away till maybe things get better in the future..

What I am curious about though, because I do rad the forums, is I keep hearing about how " I have never bought a game that didn't have the amount of bugs, just like this game "

So name them please..

In the past few years I have bought and played

WorldofWarcraft ( Out of the gate the game played fine and nothing major to make the game unplayable, now mind you its a pay to play so I am sure that would be a huge reason )

Battlefield,and part 2, game came with NO bugs, again none that made the game unplayable or atleast as bad as SH4.

Halflife 1 and 2, again same thing, no real bugs.

Even SH3, I just reinstalled the game and played it stock for a little, the game was still playable.

Company of Hero's,bug free.
LMAO!! Even WW2 online right out of the gate was more playable IMO.

I can sit here all day of all the games my hard earned money went towards, and I NEVER not even once thought of not playing a game due to bugs, but sorry to say SH4 is the first game I even decided to put down.

I hope this game does get fixed, because for me to put this game down really means its way to horrible, considering I love subgames more than anything else..

But I am curious guys, what other games are you all comparing this horrible bug infested game to?

[Keelbuster]

Most games have a playable release. It's one of those things that most developers aim for.

[Jace11]

I agree, this title SH4 takes the already unacceptable practice of releasing bugged products early to a whole new level. The game (or mod - as it seems to me) is half finished.

I can't think of any games in a worse condition... Not one..

TotalWar series are bad, GRAW was bad, HoI2 was buggy, but SH4 is a mess, a shocking mess, I am angry, disappointed but I won't be buying any more Ubi titles for a while.

I mean, they make a strategic decision money vs quality, they clearly chose money in this case, not even a happy medium, so future Ubi titles may well be similar. I was thinking about buying the next Brothers in Arms game... No way now...

They can get away with it a few times, but then their reputation will become sullied. Most people, including myself, expect and tolerate a certain number of bugs that slip through testing.

But this game looks like it was never tested. The photoshoped preview screens made me suspicious and the week before release I asked here about the resolution, everyone said "yeah its gonna run at high-res" hmmmm they were mislead.. on purpose methinks

So disappointed, feel so betrayed... its a shame cause the atmosphere of SH3 is there in SH4 it just gets ruined by all the bugs... Such a waste of effort..

[mookiemookie]

Neverwinter Nights 2 was a mess and also had a patch that came out the day after release day. Knights of the Old Republic 2 was ridiculously buggy. Battlefield 2 was horribly buggy. It happens. Get over it.

Also think about the games you've named off there. Big budget games that will sell millions of copies. Think about what SH4 is. A niche market product. Of course they're going to release those games as bug free as possible...3 million people complaining about a buggy game hurts your sales more than 300,000 people complaining about a buggy game will hurt your sales. Simple economics.

The simple fact is that as sub sim fans, we don't have a lot of choice. I'm just happy to have the game out there, buggy or not. Your only choice is this or nothing. I'll take this.

[Bahger]

The BATTLEFIELD series is infamous for its bugs but it's well-supported with patches. You are the only person I've ever encountered (both pro- and con- the game) who has never used the words "Battlefield" and "bug" in the same sentence. Frequently.

The relaunch of FALCON as ALLIED FORCE required tremendous patience as the devs labored over bug-squishing. We are now ten patches in and it's great.

GHOST RECON ADVANCED WARFARE was released to howls of protest over buggy AI and mission glitches. Five patches later, the game seems to work just fine.

Right now, I'm playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and enjoying the heck out of it depite bugs so serious that, until a patch arrived this week, I couldn't even quicksave. There is still work to be done.

Here's an obscure one (to US audiences, anyway): BRIAN LARA CRICKET 2007: Promising game with buggy catching dynamics requiring a patch.

Having said all that, I've shelved SHIV until the TDC is fixed. Which it will be, I reckon, partly thanks to Neal and the community here.

[Immacolata]

Originally Posted by fastfed

LMAO!! Even WW2 online right out of the gate was more playable IMO.

Battlefield 2 and then this? Right there I think you lost any credibility, and your argument is just a thinly veiled pointing of fingers. BF2 and ESPECIALLY WW2 were rather buggy and BF2 actually got more broke with each patch.

[sea enemy]

Age of Sail 2 was buggier than a baitshop. And, the sad part of it is, it was NEVER fixed...I've seen alpha versions of games that were in a more complete state.

After Age of Sail 2, nothing else really seems that bad.

[DaMaGe007]

Black and white 1+2
X2, X3 Reunion (X3 was worse than X2 just)

Both got patches on or around realease, and were flamed heavily.

Atlease X2,X3 eventually got finished, I wont buy another Black and White game.

[Ark]

Fastfed, if you think SHIV is buggier than WWII Online v1.0, than you did not play WWII Online v1.0.

WWII Online was the worst mess I have ever seen at release. What keeps me playing is the great support by CRS, the fairly steady stream of patches/feature updates, and the community.

[Sldghammer]

I gotta agree with Immacolata.

WWIIOnline out of the gate was a POS that almost sank the company. They sold IIRC 50000+ copies in shops and the vast majority were returned. I think they had to extend the "trial" period by 6 months until they got it somewhat playable.

Does SH4 meet the expectations of the hard core simmers? It's getting there.

Is is playable out of the box for the average player who probably only wants to go out and blow up stuff. Yup.

Will it be greatly improved soon? I think so so I'm not giving up on it.

[Jace11]

Ha, at least Age of Sail 2 had quite nice graphics for the time...

I agree it was bugged and Akela never fixed it but it was alright to play for me anyway, I did end up shelving it though due to lack of depth.

I don't think it is as bad as SH4 though..

[fastfed]

Originally Posted by Immacolata

Battlefield 2 and then this? Right there I think you lost any credibility, and your argument is just a thinly veiled pointing of fingers. BF2 and ESPECIALLY WW2 were rather buggy and BF2 actually got more broke with each patch. Go away, troll.

Go away troll?? I might of been exaggerating a little with WW2online.. They still haven't fixed that game..

I am 27 years old and have been playing games since Pole position on attari and Silent Service on my commodore..

The bottom line is I have never put a game away after buying it until SH4, I don't know what bugs you're talking about with BF2, because I played the game from day one all the way until the many patches after it. I didn't notice the bugs until reading forums and the readme's on the patches..

Nothing has even been such a disappointment until SH4 and thats the truth!

[fastfed]

Originally Posted by Ark

Fastfed, if you think SHIV is buggier than WWII Online v1.0, than you did not play WWII Online v1.0.

WWII Online was the worst mess I have ever seen at release. What keeps me playing is the great support by CRS, the fairly steady stream of patches/feature updates, and the community.

Fellow WW2 onliner???

I will PM you, I was joking about that one, how is that game these days? Played about 6 months ago last for a trial..

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by fastfed

Fellow WW2 onliner???

I will PM you, I was joking about that one, how is that game these days? Played about 6 months ago last for a trial..

Another WWIIOL'er here..... 14e Regiment de Parachutest..... 2nd year playing and I will tell you even as recently as the last major patch over christmas holiday, CRS really stepped in it (10 fps, server crashes...) 1.26 is MUCH better and 1.27 is shaping up.

[Ark]

Originally Posted by fastfed

Fellow WW2 onliner???

I will PM you, I was joking about that one, how is that game these days? Played about 6 months ago last for a trial..

Yep, been playing since release.

31st Wrecking Crew.

I can't remember how the game was 6 months ago (it all blends together, hehe), but it is still a LOT of fun for me.