Sweden: Death of girl, 12, ignites debate over gang violence

Gerald · 08-04-20, 02:05 AM

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The death of a 12-year-old girl by a stray bullet in Sweden has sparked outrage and reignited debates over its handling of gang-related violence.

The unnamed girl was killed in a drive-by shooting next to a petrol station on Sunday, according to local media.

Police have launched an investigation but are yet to make any arrests.

Officials have vowed to further crack down on violent crime. Incidents involving gangs have risen in recent years.

Police were called to the scene of the shooting, south of Stockholm, in the early hours of Sunday morning.

Details of what happened have not been officially confirmed, but local media outlets reported that the gunmen had been aiming at two members of a criminal gang, and had not intended to shoot the child.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53581473

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50339977

For a long time, Sweden has received people from other countries in what can be called "humanitarian aid"( Huge lot of ppl) from the Third World. In light of this, it must be taken into account that there are and in principle no controls where and how these people come from. Many people do not have passports and in some cases are also wanted for serious crimes in their home country or via Interpol. There are today ways to secure identity for example, DNA or basic medical pieces. The government or to use the slightly harsher word "regime" knows about this since the early 1990s. Even state television and the largest newspapers in the country are constantly systematically obscuring the truth. But today, people are aware of how the very negative spiral that is going on in putting a country into multiculturalism which can be done if it happens gradually, when the words labor immigration came up in the early 1960s. Several parties such as the Social Democrats, the Center Party, the Green Party and the Left Party, in principle "want open borders to everyone who comes from another country, this has become a huge strain on the social structure such as health care, police and the judiciary in general. Simply put, these parties are mainly the Social Democrats dependent on the people who have come here to Sweden ... as the majority live on benefits and do not add anything to the social security that existed in the country before, of course there are people who work and do their part of society. But as this happens systematically, the Social Democrats in particular depend on their votes. When it comes to law enforcement in the country, the police have no problem dealing with ordinary fiddling such as small-scale burglary, cash-in-transit robbery (although the latter does not exist because everyone uses cards when paying). In a higher level regarding more serious crimes, it is "fairly easy" even there. But what has happened and is happening in the last 12 years. Is that the police are under heavy pressure from different parties in government, which constantly gives different messages. The police have had difficulties in recruiting new ones and the salaries are not in proportion to reality. Operational police today do not exist to that extent to meet what is constantly going on and present. Then it's not just about shootings and gang-related violence but also new ones that were previously unknown atrocities such as gang rapes and humiliation robberies ... and is it the native Swede who commits the crimes? Hardly!
In order to be able to stifle what is happening, a very harsh asylum immigration is needed. And ensure the security of the citizen in the first place. It should be said that some person with a certain type of serious crime in their closet is deported for life.
Courts that have been infiltrated by feminists and other loose people need to be replaced with a clear legal thinking and no vagueness, and that the laws should also be stricter today and this applies in general and also includes everyone who lives in the country. The people I know on a level within the Swedish police see the day in a dark and complicated life and this is the real light that prevails in many cities, crime has taken over smaller cities and "no go zone" is standard.

Have a nice day Sweden!

Skybird · 08-04-20, 06:46 AM

The problem is general and across the West.

1. It already starts with our claim that asyklum-seeking is a generla human right for everybody everywhere, which I reject, because it is a human rights violation against the natural rights of the native population of the host.

2. Next issue is that the common consensus is that asyulm granted lasts forever, not just for the duration of a crisis, where as I say asyulm is giving shelter for the duration of a crisis, and after that the refugees have to leave back to the places they fled from.

3. Third big problem is that different, even hostile cultural backgrounds get univocally ignored and glossed over and even actively denied, and that it is taken for granted that "they" are ticking like "us" and that they will naturally comply with our rules, habits, values, laws, the result sof our own cultural socialisation that was different then "theirs". Instead we all too often get from them just demands, demands, and more demands. Yesterday a refugee council over here complained very noisily that corona tests in refugee camps were becoming mandatory, they called it a crime against humanity and and act of severe discrimination. And many of the riots in Germna cities in past weeks, were predominantly started and carried out by young male migrants. Knbife-rlated iuncidents hgave ,mutliplied by severla factors, sexual attacks, and racist crimes especially against Jews, here the radical right and the migrants knowingly or unknowingly work hand in hand. But the inherent antisemitism in Islamic migrants of course never gets mentioned, itsd poltically incorrect to mention it. Islam means peace and tolerance and women's rights. Always. Really.

4. Next, refugees eligible to ask for asylum, and simple migrants, do not get differentiated in language and media anymore, and all migrants get systematically labelled by media as refugees to make migranst eligible for asking for asylum.

5. Next point, external hostile powers use migration as a weapon to destabilise the West and overload its social integrity and society, demography and migraton are being used as weapons and as coercive measure for blackmailing. Radical politicla camps, mainly from the left, use migration as a battering ram to bring down much hated Wetsern self-identity, free market, capitalism, buregoise society order, law and order (compare to climate activism being abused for the same Marxist agenda).

6. There is no agreement anymore on that one of the very few existence justfications of states and govenrments is that they have to protect the borders against foreign invasion as well as foreign migration, and that it is the duty, not the voluntary optioin but the duty of the state and its police to protect citizens and the right of private property.

7. There is a deep craving especially in Germans to deny their own identity and to delete themslkeves form history. Its always the West'S faults, its always the West'S duty, its alway the Werst'S repsknsibility, and whatever it is, the West is the bad guy in it, and the others always arte good and are innocent and only our victims, the yhave never done ahnythign wrong in their home countries, and their cultures and ways and habits and political corruptions and their ethnic hate stories are never the reason for their places being what they are. And again espoecially the germans want to demonstrate that they are no Nazis anymore, and that theyx are good now, and obedient and self-sacrificing, and that the repent for the sins of their forefathers, endlessly.

8. Lastly, the massive overrepresentation of migrant groups in several catgeories of the yearly crime statistics, by several factors, gets ignored, gets hidden, and the significance of giving the migrant identity of criminals caught or being sought, is denied.

You reap what you have sown. Nothing of all this is surprising, I am not surprised one bit. When I posted more on Islam ten years ago, I predicted all this and said it is an inevitable consequence. You reap what you have sown, Europe, you reap what you have sown. Enjoy the fruits of your endavours - you earned them.

Onkel Neal · 08-04-20, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53581473

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50339977

For a long time, Sweden has received people from other countries in what can be called "humanitarian aid"( Huge lot of ppl) from the Third World. ... Then it's not just about shootings and gang-related violence but also new ones that were previously unknown atrocities such as gang rapes and humiliation robberies ... and is it the native Swede who commits the crimes? Hardly!
In order to be able to stifle what is happening, a very harsh asylum immigration is needed. And ensure the security of the citizen in the first place. It should be said that some person with a certain type of serious crime in their closet is deported for life.

Have a nice day Sweden!

You want us to send Donald Trump over there, he'll take care of the problem, he'll build a wall like he did here... oh, wait.

Gerald · 08-04-20, 08:36 AM

@SkyI have been fully aware of what you are writing here there are no ambiguities. And especially grateful for the threads and links that you posted here on SS 10 years ago in the situation that "would" come.

I have not chosen before to either post or post things that happen in the country, as I have been involved in a lot then, today the situation is different.

Sweden has a strong over-representation of people from MENA. Sweden is a deviation there, even if you say that in general. And fully initiated in turning the ship so that she is on the keel is no easy task.

Gerald

Gerald · 08-04-20, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

You want us to send Donald Trump over there, he'll take care of the problem, he'll build a wall like he did here... oh, wait.

Donald would be a much better option in all situations, especially at government level. Here is a game that is reminiscent of two children playing in a sandbox ... and the skills of those who are to control are shameful. I start from what people do not do what they say ..... but as for the wall, it can be built along the entire border beyond Italy and Spain ...

mapuc · 08-04-20, 02:31 PM

I get tears in my eyes when I see how my country is going downhill.

A friend posted a twitter response from Swedish TV, claiming The 12-year-old girl was in the wrong place at the wrong time

https://twitter.com/svtnyheter/statu...03944544018435

It's in Swedish-But the response to this Twitter is harsh

Markus

08-04-20, 06:46 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,487 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The problem is general and across the West. 1. It already starts with our claim that asyklum-seeking is a generla human right for everybody everywhere, which I reject, because it is a human rights violation against the natural rights of the native population of the host. 2. Next issue is that the common consensus is that asyulm granted lasts forever, not just for the duration of a crisis, where as I say asyulm is giving shelter for the duration of a crisis, and after that the refugees have to leave back to the places they fled from. 3. Third big problem is that different, even hostile cultural backgrounds get univocally ignored and glossed over and even actively denied, and that it is taken for granted that "they" are ticking like "us" and that they will naturally comply with our rules, habits, values, laws, the result sof our own cultural socialisation that was different then "theirs". Instead we all too often get from them just demands, demands, and more demands. Yesterday a refugee council over here complained very noisily that corona tests in refugee camps were becoming mandatory, they called it a crime against humanity and and act of severe discrimination. And many of the riots in Germna cities in past weeks, were predominantly started and carried out by young male migrants. Knbife-rlated iuncidents hgave ,mutliplied by severla factors, sexual attacks, and racist crimes especially against Jews, here the radical right and the migrants knowingly or unknowingly work hand in hand. But the inherent antisemitism in Islamic migrants of course never gets mentioned, itsd poltically incorrect to mention it. Islam means peace and tolerance and women's rights. Always. Really. 4. Next, refugees eligible to ask for asylum, and simple migrants, do not get differentiated in language and media anymore, and all migrants get systematically labelled by media as refugees to make migranst eligible for asking for asylum. 5. Next point, external hostile powers use migration as a weapon to destabilise the West and overload its social integrity and society, demography and migraton are being used as weapons and as coercive measure for blackmailing. Radical politicla camps, mainly from the left, use migration as a battering ram to bring down much hated Wetsern self-identity, free market, capitalism, buregoise society order, law and order (compare to climate activism being abused for the same Marxist agenda). 6. There is no agreement anymore on that one of the very few existence justfications of states and govenrments is that they have to protect the borders against foreign invasion as well as foreign migration, and that it is the duty, not the voluntary optioin but the duty of the state and its police to protect citizens and the right of private property. 7. There is a deep craving especially in Germans to deny their own identity and to delete themslkeves form history. Its always the West'S faults, its always the West'S duty, its alway the Werst'S repsknsibility, and whatever it is, the West is the bad guy in it, and the others always arte good and are innocent and only our victims, the yhave never done ahnythign wrong in their home countries, and their cultures and ways and habits and political corruptions and their ethnic hate stories are never the reason for their places being what they are. And again espoecially the germans want to demonstrate that they are no Nazis anymore, and that theyx are good now, and obedient and self-sacrificing, and that the repent for the sins of their forefathers, endlessly. 8. Lastly, the massive overrepresentation of migrant groups in several catgeories of the yearly crime statistics, by several factors, gets ignored, gets hidden, and the significance of giving the migrant identity of criminals caught or being sought, is denied. You reap what you have sown. Nothing of all this is surprising, I am not surprised one bit. When I posted more on Islam ten years ago, I predicted all this and said it is an inevitable consequence. You reap what you have sown, Europe, you reap what you have sown. Enjoy the fruits of your endavours - you earned them. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-04-20, 08:36 AM	#4
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,222 Downloads: 548 Uploads: 0	@SkyI have been fully aware of what you are writing here there are no ambiguities. And especially grateful for the threads and links that you posted here on SS 10 years ago in the situation that "would" come. I have not chosen before to either post or post things that happen in the country, as I have been involved in a lot then, today the situation is different. Sweden has a strong over-representation of people from MENA. Sweden is a deviation there, even if you say that in general. And fully initiated in turning the ship so that she is on the keel is no easy task. Gerald __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

08-04-20, 02:31 PM	#6
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,872 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I get tears in my eyes when I see how my country is going downhill. A friend posted a twitter response from Swedish TV, claiming The 12-year-old girl was in the wrong place at the wrong time https://twitter.com/svtnyheter/statu...03944544018435 It's in Swedish-But the response to this Twitter is harsh Markus