Realism- and gameplay-related hardcode fixes for SH3.EXE

[Rhodes]

Originally Posted by BogdaNz

I dont understeand.
So when i am submerged only batteries consume ,when batteries where at 10 % then CO2 start to consume
But when i am surface only batteries start to load! i need to recharge my oxigen ,and it dont recharge !

Got the same doubt yesterday but in the help files, there is a explanation!

"
Oxygen-Supply
So far, SH3 models only a 100% renewable oxygen (O2) supply. That means: After a long period of diving, say 40 hours, it was enough to surface and after that the Uboat was able to dive for 40 hours again and again. Now, with this patch, O2 is divided into two parts: A renewable part and a non-renewable part. The renewable part is the O2 in the air of the Uboat. This part is sufficient for a diving period of about 5-7 hours. During this time the LI informs you about the O2 content of the air, starting at the normal value 21% and slowly decreasing to the critical value of 17%. At 17%, the LI automatically starts to adds O2 from the oxygen-supply (contained in pressure bottles). This O2 supply is sufficient for a long diving period of about 30 - 100 hours (depending on Uboat type), but that O2-supply is non-renewable! That means: It is not filled up when surfacing. Only the O2 in the air is restored to the normal value of 21% when surfacing. From now on the Player has to act economically regarding O2 supply, what adds a new strategical component to the game. The consumption of oxygen depends on the current crew number. The more crew, the more O2 is consumed. The consumption of O2 will be lowered if the crew is on silent-running routine. The net effect is that the U-boat can stay submerged longer. Repairing, flooding recovery and reloading of torpedoes will boost the O2 consumption."

From HSIEoptions help file!

[BogdaNz]

Originally Posted by Rhodes

Got the same doubt yesterday but in the help files, there is a explanation!

"
Oxygen-Supply
So far, SH3 models only a 100% renewable oxygen (O2) supply. That means: After a long period of diving, say 40 hours, it was enough to surface and after that the Uboat was able to dive for 40 hours again and again. Now, with this patch, O2 is divided into two parts: A renewable part and a non-renewable part. The renewable part is the O2 in the air of the Uboat. This part is sufficient for a diving period of about 5-7 hours. During this time the LI informs you about the O2 content of the air, starting at the normal value 21% and slowly decreasing to the critical value of 17%. At 17%, the LI automatically starts to adds O2 from the oxygen-supply (contained in pressure bottles). This O2 supply is sufficient for a long diving period of about 30 - 100 hours (depending on Uboat type), but that O2-supply is non-renewable! That means: It is not filled up when surfacing. Only the O2 in the air is restored to the normal value of 21% when surfacing. From now on the Player has to act economically regarding O2 supply, what adds a new strategical component to the game. The consumption of oxygen depends on the current crew number. The more crew, the more O2 is consumed. The consumption of O2 will be lowered if the crew is on silent-running routine. The net effect is that the U-boat can stay submerged longer. Repairing, flooding recovery and reloading of torpedoes will boost the O2 consumption."

From HSIEoptions help file!

So basically when batteries is at 10%,and CO2 start to consume that is non-renewable part that cannot be replaced?
Is this how was in reallity ?
And why when i have 7 knots submerged ,the periscope will not rise ?

[Rhodes]

Because in reallity you could not go above 3 knots with the periscope risen!

[Wolfstriked]

Originally Posted by BogdaNz

So basically when batteries is at 10%,and CO2 start to consume that is non-renewable part that cannot be replaced?
Is this how was in reallity ?
And why when i have 7 knots submerged ,the periscope will not rise ?

Why are you mentioning batteries and oxygen.Batteries are your power and when they run out you lose ability to power the boat or even run the lights if severe enough.

Then their is 3 pieces to the air issues that a Uboat had.

First is the air in the boat when you close the hatch.The oxygen starts to get used up and you will notice CO saying "oxygen at 19%...18%".Then he will say oxygen used up starting to use the oxygen cannisters to replenish oxygen(the uboat also has scrubbers to remove the carbon dioxide).

The oxygen cannisters are not replenishable but the oxygen that is used up first is....all you have to do is open the hatch and in 2 minutes the boat is full for another few hours before the oxygen cannisters have to be used again.

Then their is a compressed air tank onboard a sub that is used to blow the ballast tanks.This tank is filled when you surface as a compressor slowly compresses the air in the tank.

Hope that helps instead of confuses.

And BTW....where is Hsie??I hope he comes back to this as it adds in alot of good stuff that SH3 needs.

[BogdaNz]

Originally Posted by Wolfstriked

Why are you mentioning batteries and oxygen.Batteries are your power and when they run out you lose ability to power the boat or even run the lights if severe enough.

Then their is 3 pieces to the air issues that a Uboat had.

First is the air in the boat when you close the hatch.The oxygen starts to get used up and you will notice CO saying "oxygen at 19%...18%".Then he will say oxygen used up starting to use the oxygen cannisters to replenish oxygen(the uboat also has scrubbers to remove the carbon dioxide).

The oxygen cannisters are not replenishable but the oxygen that is used up first is....all you have to do is open the hatch and in 2 minutes the boat is full for another few hours before the oxygen cannisters have to be used again.

Then their is a compressed air tank onboard a sub that is used to blow the ballast tanks.This tank is filled when you surface as a compressor slowly compresses the air in the tank.

Hope that helps instead of confuses.

And BTW....where is Hsie??I hope he comes back to this as it adds in alot of good stuff that SH3 needs.

it's more confuse,how to open hatch ? i said when i am surface only batteries recharge the co2 never recharge .....

[SquareSteelBar]

Originally Posted by BogdaNz

...the co2 never recharge .....

For what do you need CO²? In a sub you've to get rid of it as soon as possible.

[frau kaleun]

Maybe he means the compressed air?

[Wolfstriked]

Originally Posted by BogdaNz

it's more confuse,how to open hatch ? i said when i am surface only batteries recharge the co2 never recharge .....

Your confusing the CO2 gauge......it doesn't measure CO2 anymore.In the Hardcode patch the CO2 gauge shows how much stored oxygen you have.It doesn't replenish because you only have a set amount.

Try this....submerge long enough till your using stored oxygen then surface and watch the messages.At one point the CO will say something like oxygen in boat is replenished...after around 2 minutes real time.

[BogdaNz]

Originally Posted by Wolfstriked

Your confusing the CO2 gauge......it doesn't measure CO2 anymore.In the Hardcode patch the CO2 gauge shows how much stored oxygen you have.It doesn't replenish because you only have a set amount.

Try this....submerge long enough till your using stored oxygen then surface and watch the messages.At one point the CO will say something like oxygen in boat is replenished...after around 2 minutes real time.

yes i mean CO2 gauge,when is consumed never recharge

[Wolfstriked]

Originally Posted by BogdaNz

yes i mean CO2 gauge,when is consumed never recharge

Thats actually the stored the oxygen supply that is unreplenishable.When its gone you head back in to port.

[BogdaNz]

Originally Posted by Wolfstriked

Thats actually the stored the oxygen supply that is unreplenishable.When its gone you head back in to port.

head back in to port.And how does the port recharge oxygen suppy if you say that is unreplenishable ?

[Wolfstriked]

Originally Posted by BogdaNz

head back in to port.And how does the port recharge oxygen suppy if you say that is unreplenishable ?

New oxygen canisters placed on board.

[SquareSteelBar]

BTW the patch kit includes a new O² gauge.

[SquareSteelBar]

Originally Posted by BogdaNz

yes i mean CO2 gauge,when is consumed never recharge

CO² isn't consumed, it's breathed out by crew members. That causes an increase of CO² percentage in the air whilst the boat is submerged. This is very dangerous since a CO² percentage above 8 % is lethal within 30 - 60 min.

[chrisglen]

Hi does any one have a copy of sh3 exe that works with this mod as the one i have dosnt work,it is from a late dvd release