New Computer

Spike88 · 11-28-09, 10:35 PM

Since I am now gainfully employed and being promoted to assistant manager(more money

). I'm going to buy a new computer part by part. Mostly for SH5, and a couple other games here and there.

Here's what I'm thinking about:
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.B HDT721025SLA380 (0A38006) 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS ENGT240/DI/512MD5/A GeForce GT 240 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 700 RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active ... - Retail

Kingston 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K3/3G - Retail

MSI P55-GD80 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail

Total: 824.92

Any advice? Or Suggestions?

Mind you I'll be re-using my logitech surround sound speakers, monitor, mouse, keyboard, and 130 gig hard drive from this computer.

And I'll be installing my Windows 7 Ultimate 32.

Gerald · 11-28-09, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike88

Since I am now gainfully employed and being promoted to assistant manager(more money

). I'm going to buy a new computer part by part. Mostly for SH5, and a couple other games here and there.

Here's what I'm thinking about:
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.B HDT721025SLA380 (0A38006) 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS ENGT240/DI/512MD5/A GeForce GT 240 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 700 RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active ... - Retail

Kingston 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K3/3G - Retail

MSI P55-GD80 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail

Total: 824.92

Any advice? Or Suggestions?

Mind you I'll be re-using my logitech surround sound speakers, monitor, mouse, keyboard, and 130 gig hard drive from this computer.

And I'll be installing my Windows 7 Ultimate 32.

Well i can say at your taste is good,but in other hands ,the vid card amount 512 mb at least 1024 mb it`s better option and also use a high speed intel core (2) i7 "say" 3,8 ghz after people have some problem in 4 core,,,,but if u have a chance too do some good deal,great.....

Arclight · 11-28-09, 11:45 PM

GT 240 is rebranded a 9800GT, which is a rebranded 8800GT. I'd get something different.
I don't think i5 is triple-channel, i7 is though. I'll check it, but I think you should couple that CPU with either 2x1GB or 2x2GB.

Matter of preference, but I'd swap that drive for a Western Digital, and perhaps go with a Gigabyte board.

Spike88 · 11-29-09, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

GT 240 is rebranded a 9800GT, which is a rebranded 8800GT. I'd get something different.
I don't think i5 is triple-channel, i7 is though. I'll check it, but I think you should couple that CPU with either 2x1GB or 2x2GB.

Matter of preference, but I'd swap that drive for a Western Digital, and perhaps go with a Gigabyte board.

I'm actually thinking about getting a western digital because that is what I put into my ps3.

Any suggestions for Graphics card then?

I'm only going to get an i5 at the moment and then get an i7 later on, which is why I chose the intel board with its i5/i7 capabilities.

Also I'm salvaging my DVD/CDrW from this computer.

jas39 · 11-29-09, 10:04 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...card,2464.html

Arclight · 11-29-09, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike88

Any suggestions for Graphics card then?

Not really, I'm not particularly happy with any offerings on the market at the moment. ATI seems to be the way to go no matter what you're looking for, and then I'd suggest getting a HD5000 for DX11 support.

HD 4770 costs about the same as 8800GT/9800GT/GT240, but is faster. If you want to stay in that pricing bracket, it's probably the best way to go.

GTX 260 & HD 4870 1GB perform very similar. HD 5770 is slightly slower but offers DX11 and low power consumption.

There's the slightly more expensive HD 4890, which is essentialy an overclocked 4870. Performance is on par with GTX 275, but that one is a little more expensive.

imho market is a mess at the moment, has been for a while.

PeriscopeDepth · 11-30-09, 02:07 AM

If you plan on keeping your system for more than a year, a 64 bit system with 4 gigs of RAM will be worth it.

PD

FIREWALL · 12-05-09, 06:51 PM

Good decision on the Mobo Spike.

When money permits you can upgrade CPU.

Try to get a 1gb Vid card.

64 bit is the way to go.

Let us all know what you get.

Lord Justice · 12-07-09, 04:16 PM

gunning for sapphire 5870, see there is 5890 now, out my price range, may also have to remove one of my sflex 1200rpm side case fans now , darn

Spike88 · 12-15-09, 03:45 PM

Well laddies and gents. With college around the corner I've put my computer purchasing plans on the back burner to get a laptop instead(so I can play SH5 during lectures)

.

Anyone have any suggestions for good laptops that can also play most games on medium/high settings?

I'm thinking about the HP Pavilion dv7t
link
At 749.99
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor T6600 (2.2GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB
2GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
512MB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 4530
or would it be better to go the extra 150ish and get a
HP Pavilion dv6t
at 999.99

Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M
4gb DDR3 Memory( free upgrade )

Or maybe a dell or sony?

I know whats a semi-good computer, but I have no clue about laptops.

goldorak · 12-15-09, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth

If you plan on keeping your system for more than a year, a 64 bit system with 4 gigs of RAM will be worth it.

PD

To really see any gains from going 64 bit you have got to use at a minimum 8 GB and not 4 GB as commonly believed.
This is to offset the larger memory footprint 64 bit programs have (because of 64 bit instructions that is 8 bytes vs 4 bytes for 32 bit programs).

Spike88 · 12-15-09, 06:42 PM

ColorEspresso Black
Operating systemGenuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
ProcessorIntel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P7550 (2.26GHz, 3 MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB)
MemoryFREE Upgrade to 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) from 2GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
Hard driveFREE Upgrade to 320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
Graphics card1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 4650
Display17.3" diagonal HD+ High-Definition HP LED BrightView Widescreen Display (1600 x 900)
Primary optical driveLightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
PersonalizationWebcam Only
NetworkingWireless-G Card with Bluetooth
TV & entertainment experienceNo TV Tuner w/remote control
KeyboardHP Color Matching Keyboard
Primary battery8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Modem PortNo Modem
Productivity softwareMicrosoft(R) Works 9.0

Here's the dv7t I'm thinking off. $1,016.78, 999.99 for the laptop an extra 16.99 for a mouse. Plus free shipping.

ColorEspresso Black
Operating systemGenuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
ProcessorIntel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
MemoryFREE Upgrade to 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) from 2GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
Hard drive250GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
Graphics card1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M
Display15.6" diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Widescreen Display (1366x768)
Primary optical driveLightscribe Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
PersonalizationWebcam Only
NetworkingWireless-G Card with Bluetooth
TV & entertainment experienceNo TV Tuner w/remote control
KeyboardHP Color Matching Keyboard
Primary battery6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Modem PortNo Modem
Productivity softwareMicrosoft(R) Works 9.0

Here's the Here's the dv6t Quad. $1,041.78, 1024.99 for the laptop an extra 16.99 for a mouse. Plus free shipping.

The only difference between the two is one has a 2.26 Core 2 duo and the other 1.6ghz Quad.

So far from what I've seen HP is a better buy than dell in terms of power and price. Haven't really looked at Sony Vaio yet.

Arclight · 12-15-09, 07:38 PM

If it's for gaming I'd say go for the dual-core. A lot of load get's put on a single core; 1.6GHz might be a bit light.

That said, games are becoming more efficiently multithreaded.

That Radeon should prove to be a bit faster as the 230M as well... I think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldorak

To really see any gains from going 64 bit you have got to use at a minimum 8 GB and not 4 GB as commonly believed.
This is to offset the larger memory footprint 64 bit programs have (because of 64 bit instructions that is 8 bytes vs 4 bytes for 32 bit programs).

Larger footprint yes, but not double. Shouldn't be, at least.

Spike88 · 12-16-09, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

If it's for gaming I'd say go for the dual-core. A lot of load get's put on a single core; 1.6GHz might be a bit light.

That said, games are becoming more efficiently multithreaded.

That Radeon should prove to be a bit faster as the 230M as well... I think.

Larger footprint yes, but not double. Shouldn't be, at least.

Okay, so the Dv7t is not only cheaper but better in performance.

What settings do you think games like L4D2, SH4, Empire Total War could be played at?

Arclight · 12-16-09, 03:44 PM

Ooooh, I don't know. I'm not a big fan of gaming on laptops.

SH4 shouldn't be much of a problem, though it might slow down in harbors. Not a clue on L4D2, Empire maybe medium.

Just a guess really, I think you'd be better of asking someone who actually has experience with that chipset.

11-28-09, 10:35 PM	#1
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	New Computer Since I am now gainfully employed and being promoted to assistant manager(more money ). I'm going to buy a new computer part by part. Mostly for SH5, and a couple other games here and there. Here's what I'm thinking about: COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.B HDT721025SLA380 (0A38006) 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ASUS ENGT240/DI/512MD5/A GeForce GT 240 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 700 RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active ... - Retail Kingston 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1333D3N9K3/3G - Retail MSI P55-GD80 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I5750 - Retail Total: 824.92 Any advice? Or Suggestions? Mind you I'll be re-using my logitech surround sound speakers, monitor, mouse, keyboard, and 130 gig hard drive from this computer. And I'll be installing my Windows 7 Ultimate 32. __________________

11-28-09, 11:45 PM	#3
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	GT 240 is rebranded a 9800GT, which is a rebranded 8800GT. I'd get something different. I don't think i5 is triple-channel, i7 is though. I'll check it, but I think you should couple that CPU with either 2x1GB or 2x2GB. Matter of preference, but I'd swap that drive for a Western Digital, and perhaps go with a Gigabyte board. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

12-05-09, 06:51 PM	#8
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Good decision on the Mobo Spike. When money permits you can upgrade CPU. Try to get a 1gb Vid card. 64 bit is the way to go. Let us all know what you get. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

12-15-09, 03:45 PM	#10
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Well laddies and gents. With college around the corner I've put my computer purchasing plans on the back burner to get a laptop instead(so I can play SH5 during lectures) . Anyone have any suggestions for good laptops that can also play most games on medium/high settings? I'm thinking about the HP Pavilion dv7t link At 749.99 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor T6600 (2.2GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB 2GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 4530 or would it be better to go the extra 150ish and get a HP Pavilion dv6t at 999.99 Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB) 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M 4gb DDR3 Memory( free upgrade ) Or maybe a dell or sony? I know whats a semi-good computer, but I have no clue about laptops. __________________

12-15-09, 06:42 PM	#12
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	ColorEspresso Black Operating systemGenuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit ProcessorIntel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P7550 (2.26GHz, 3 MB L2 Cache, 1066MHz FSB) MemoryFREE Upgrade to 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) from 2GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) Hard driveFREE Upgrade to 320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection Graphics card1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 4650 Display17.3" diagonal HD+ High-Definition HP LED BrightView Widescreen Display (1600 x 900) Primary optical driveLightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support PersonalizationWebcam Only NetworkingWireless-G Card with Bluetooth TV & entertainment experienceNo TV Tuner w/remote control KeyboardHP Color Matching Keyboard Primary battery8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery Modem PortNo Modem Productivity softwareMicrosoft(R) Works 9.0 Here's the dv7t I'm thinking off. $1,016.78, 999.99 for the laptop an extra 16.99 for a mouse. Plus free shipping. ColorEspresso Black Operating systemGenuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit ProcessorIntel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB) MemoryFREE Upgrade to 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) from 2GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) Hard drive250GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection Graphics card1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M Display15.6" diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Widescreen Display (1366x768) Primary optical driveLightscribe Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer PersonalizationWebcam Only NetworkingWireless-G Card with Bluetooth TV & entertainment experienceNo TV Tuner w/remote control KeyboardHP Color Matching Keyboard Primary battery6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery Modem PortNo Modem Productivity softwareMicrosoft(R) Works 9.0 Here's the Here's the dv6t Quad. $1,041.78, 1024.99 for the laptop an extra 16.99 for a mouse. Plus free shipping. The only difference between the two is one has a 2.26 Core 2 duo and the other 1.6ghz Quad. So far from what I've seen HP is a better buy than dell in terms of power and price. Haven't really looked at Sony Vaio yet. __________________

11-29-09, 10:04 AM	#5
jas39 A-ganger Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 77 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...card,2464.html

11-30-09, 02:07 AM	#7
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	If you plan on keeping your system for more than a year, a 64 bit system with 4 gigs of RAM will be worth it. PD

12-07-09, 04:16 PM	#9
Lord Justice Previously 4Para Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Britain Posts: 609 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	gunning for sapphire 5870, see there is 5890 now, out my price range, may also have to remove one of my sflex 1200rpm side case fans now , darn

12-16-09, 03:44 PM	#15
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Ooooh, I don't know. I'm not a big fan of gaming on laptops. SH4 shouldn't be much of a problem, though it might slow down in harbors. Not a clue on L4D2, Empire maybe medium. Just a guess really, I think you'd be better of asking someone who actually has experience with that chipset. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.