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Old 06-01-2020, 02:10 PM   #61
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Ah, now we are getting somewhere...
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:14 PM   #62
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"Antifa" has other interests and nothing to do with that, looting and all. Only Trump says it, but as ususal he tries to divert and put the blame on political enemies.
I think vandalising and looting is done by young, bored "yobs"/teenagers where left or right does not play a role, while a few criminals and right and left wingers try to cook their own soup in all this tumult.

@Platapus i do no really understand it either, "general frustration"?
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:14 PM   #63
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Ah, now we are getting somewhere...
The only place we are getting is innocents in the crossfire and neighborhood destroyed.
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:16 PM   #64
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nothing to do with that, looting and all. Only Trump says it, but as ususal he tries to divert and put the blame on political enemies. Yawn.

@Platapus i do no understand it either, "general frustration"?
It will come to light both far right and left groups are fueling the riots.

Why would a white supremist spray paint "no more black lives"and "the rich are not safe anymore"?
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Old 06-01-2020, 02:47 PM   #65
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[...] Why would a white supremist spray paint "no more black lives"and "the rich are not safe anymore"?
To fuel the fire? Because "white supremists" are often not very rich? More often than not white supremists have guns.
Where are all the left wing terrorists of the last years, when and where did they perpetrate crimes and terrorist acts, where are their guns, where are they hiding?
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To fuel the fire? Because "white supremists" are often not very rich?
Alli can say is that more often than not the right wingers have the guns.
What guns? I see bricks, spray paint, bats and matches. So you mean to tell me white supremists spray painted on the WW2 memorial 'do black vets count?" because it incites rage? Interesting.
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I was looking around for something beside the usual political mud slinging. Apparently there is a psychology to rioting and with todays access to instant media and communication it can spread like wildfire. On a side note, I never knew there were 2011 riots in England.
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Understanding Why People Riot
Riots are more complex than "criminality, pure and simple."

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How the 2011 English riots spread—new evidence shows sense of identity was key
  • Firstly, two days after Mark Duggan was killed, a protest against the police turned into a riot in Tottenham.
  • Secondly, the riots spread to a small number of areas in London, including Brixton. A close analysis of the data and accounts shows that Brixton participants often identified with Tottenham – as two areas share a history of rioting over police racism. People in Brixton were therefore influenced to riot out of anger and a sense of injustice at the killing of Mark Duggan
  • Thirdly, the riots in Croydon and Clapham were more influenced by the perception of police vulnerability across London and an underlying anti-police sentiment in these areas. Deprivation in all these areas was a leading factor.
"While previous research has shown anti-police feeling among the rioters, what we have now found is that the rioters used their views of the police to define themselves collectively. Their sense of identity was key. Knowing and seeing others feeling the same way, across various locations, made the rioters feel that they were not alone, and emboldened them to riot too."

The authors compared London boroughs that saw rioting with those that did not. Deprivation was the strongest predictor of whether a riot occurred in a London borough. There were significantly greater numbers of deprived people in the boroughs that saw rioting than in those that did not see rioting. In addition, the greater the number of deprived people in a borough, the greater the number of recorded riot offences in a borough and the longer the duration of rioting within a borough."

https://phys.org/news/2019-01-englis...-identity.html


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Old 06-01-2020, 04:19 PM   #68
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Made a Search in English for this Antifa to see if there would be any different what I found on those pages and what I have read and heard about them in our news here in Denmark and Sweden.

There wasn't any difference the Antifa in USA, England, Germany is acting in the same way as they do in Denmark and Sweden.
(Maybe a smaller difference)

The question is though...can this be classified as terror ?

Some of the pages I found

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/art...w-about-antifa

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Old 06-01-2020, 05:26 PM   #69
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What guns? I see bricks, spray paint, bats and matches. So you mean to tell me white supremists spray painted on the WW2 memorial 'do black vets count?" because it incites rage? Interesting.

He is not going to admit that his anarchist darlings are anything but squeaky clean.

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Old 06-01-2020, 06:03 PM   #70
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A friend posted this article from last year.
Which makes me wonder:

Was there any riot in the street of Minneapolis last summer ?

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But on Friday, Mr. Noor, now an ex-officer and convicted murderer, was sentenced to about 12 and a half years in a Minnesota prison for the death of Justine Ruszczyk, an unarmed woman he killed while on patrol in 2017.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/u...RHhLHAyw8sNZSc

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It made the news but there were no riots. But then I know police can really screw up badly. Neither am I hammered day in day out by tv and radio telling me how deprived I am and how much I'm owed.
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Neither am I hammered day in day out by tv and radio telling me how deprived I am and how much I'm owed.

At night when I visit with my mother and flip through her cable TV channels it's always TV for trashy people, TV for trashy people, TV for trashy people, TV for trashy people, and then I finally find an episode of Law & Order from the 90s to watch and I wonder at how many crap people we must have produced in this country who watch those new low class shows. The every movie a fart joke from Idiocracy would actually be high brow stuff in comparison to most of what's on cable TV right now.


I sort of expected something like these riots after keeping all those low class people on lockdown for a couple months, and by low class I don't mean anything about color of people's skin. Honey Boo Boo being a prime example of low class. All it needed was one little spark.


Well at least we have Europeans to tell us all about ourselves. LMAO
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:49 PM   #73
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Automatic rifles indeed were seen just weeks ago, in three democrats-ruled states that saw their capitol halls stormed by heavily armed "patriots" in masks. Trump had called for unrest there since these three states threaten his reelection.



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To fuel the fire? Because "white supremists" are often not very rich? More often than not white supremists have guns.
Where are all the left wing terrorists of the last years, when and where did they perpetrate crimes and terrorist acts, where are their guns, where are they hiding?
What news have you been reading for the last ten years?

They are very rich and very organized ... They have ranches and even have their own churches. They are America's number one home grown terrorist group. The ATF and FBI try to infiltrate them and they get caught with the expected resulting early termination of life. Plus they don't hide their hate for anything that's not white.
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