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Old 05-31-2020, 09:50 PM   #46
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They're protesting in London. Are they protesting American police in the UK?

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Metropolitan Police arrested at least 23 protesters in London on Sunday at demonstrations showing solidarity with Americans protesting the death George Floyd. The arrests were for a variety of offenses including breaches to UK coronavirus legislation.

Protesters gathered in central London’s Trafalgar Square at 8 a.m. ET to show support to Americans for the killing of George Floyd, despite UK lockdown rules that prohibit large crowds from gathering together.

In a series of tweets late Sunday, police said the total number of arrests following gatherings in central London today is now 23, all for various offenses. They remain in police custody. Police said the majority of those who attended have now left the area.

"Officers have been engaging and consistently policing all gatherings this weekend, encouraging all to comply with the regulations to keep everyone safe," police said.

More protests are expected in London during the week.
So what happened to the driver of the truck? Did the mob kill him? Throw him over the overpass?
https://www.fox9.com/video/689938

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Old 05-31-2020, 10:39 PM   #47
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Protestors dragged him out of the truck then beat the crap out of him. He was taken to a hospital then arrested, charges pending. Want to give him the most they can when they do come up with all the charges.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:02 AM   #48
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Like the years of sowing, so is the harvest now.

It is infame to try cleaning this rioting off the table again by focussing on profane formalities like whether this still is protest or is a riot that has disconnected from the original triggering event. Where the underlaying intense energy that fuels both is coming from - that is what it is about.

And the great Führer, what does he do? Spills as much oil into the fire as much as he can, at every opportunity. For him, the fires cannot burn hot enough. They are the fundemant - the only fundament - of his power.

These events are not really surprising. Surpring only is that they had us waiting so long. America more and more rips apart, since many years. These gaps and trenches will never be bridged again. The U in USA can safely be deleted. Racism, social divide of ever growing proportions, brutal polarization done by both political parties but especially and explicitly dirty done by the Tea Party which has hollowed out the Republican party, a culture of violence and a strong fascination for it, existential threats from a financial system out of control, foreign influence fueling internal conflicts, more and more buying power and control power amassed in fewer and fewer hands, war on the middle class, the echoes of 2007/2008 still rolling - it all comes together, some factors lasting for years, some lasting for decades, some lasting for as long as America exists.

There will be Biden or there will be Trump. It does not matter. The basic constellations stay he same. The basic problems remain the same. The inner contradictions of this nation will not go away - they rather will intensify the contrasts.
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Old 06-01-2020, 05:08 AM   #49
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I read that some media call Trump a "human flame thrower" (re-translated from German). Thats a fitting description. Hides in the bunker now. What a pitiful thing in a suit he is.

After he got out of his hole again they will need to renovate it, the bad smell will not easily go away again.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:59 AM   #50
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Yeah, America, good thing we released all those convicts from prison cuz Wuhan flu, just in time for the riots, er, protests



Maybe they'll burn the cities to the ground, then they can head for white suburbia.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:14 AM   #51
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To protest for change is one thing, to riot and loot and set police cars on fire is something different all together. Rioting and looting is the exact OPPOSITE of protesting and is totally counterproductive, because rather then protesting against police brutality they're giving the police a reason to be brutal. And while this video is three years old it still gives a good look into why nothing has really changed regarding the police in six years.
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"A civilization that leaves so large a number of its participants unsatisfied and drives them into revolt, neither has nor deserves the prospect of lasting existence." - Sigmund Freud.
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Old 06-01-2020, 12:20 PM   #53
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They're protesting in London. Are they protesting American police in the UK? [...]
Well with the internet there can be international Aufregung about everything and everywhere, anytime. I just wonder whether there are as much protests against injustice in China or Russia.. of course some may argue those are lost dictatorships anyway, and for now "we" have to save the western world

@Kptlt Neuerburg well said and good video.. it is like everywhere, an organisation like the police needs people with the best personalities, but they rarely get them. Most are doing much more good than gets to the surface (read: media), but a few are outstandingly bad, and those make the headlines.
Police action in the US is "a bit different" compared to other western countries, one example being those private prisons which have of course a need to be filled to make money. I remember having an english/american schoolbook (printed in and for England and Germany) in the 1970ies named "Cities in crisis", which told exactly what you would see and read in the papers for decades to come, even now.
It was not only about racism, but about people just being split from what we see as normal life. No job, no insurance, no hope, including their children. Frustration building up and at some point, hate.
Main problem is a bad or no education, and when you have to pay for the latter.. another problem of course hat there will never be enough jobs for all, even if all the peole would be perfectly trained and fit in all jobs. This our system does not allow for that.

Regarding racism, you really have to digest this, people being kidnapped from their country and displaced 5000 km away to work and die as slaves, and centuries after that happening no excuse, instead contempt, good old racism just of all by the nation's executing power; no wonder it is perceived as deeply unfair and insulting.
While most people will accept a black co worker like everyone else, i read in another US based forum by a member, that he "did not like to work with blacks", and got a lot of "positive" like-minded answers.
This is all happening now, and it is not new.
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Old 06-01-2020, 12:33 PM   #54
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I think there are just some people looking to riot/loot. Does not matter what the protest is about, just an excuse for violence and theft.


I just don't get it.
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Old 06-01-2020, 01:44 PM   #55
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Understand there are group of instigators. ANTIFA. For those pointing to extreme right wing AR-15 toting lunatics there is an alternate universe of far extreme left wing who tote bricks, matches and bats. For some reason they have self appointed themselves as the Justice League. The riots are conducted by ANTIFA. These individuals drive from city to city inciting.

The truth of the matter is no one is policing the police. What happened to Floyd was simply hard to watch. The officer who kneed his way to Floyd's death has 17 some odd excessive force complaints from all walks of life. He pulled his service revolver several times. The city of Minneapolis and it's police commissioner failed Floyd. Accountability for the entire department command should come into question IMO. There is no way this cop should have been on the streets.
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ANTIFA is what I understand active in Denmark and Sweden.
(They do not commit terror, while some say they do)

I don't know what will happen to this group, if they are put on the terrorlist.

Will the government in Denmark and Sweden obey and do the same ?

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ANTIFA is what I understand active in Denmark and Sweden.
(They do not commit terror, while some say they do)

I don't know what will happen to this group, if they are put on the terrorlist.

Will the government in Denmark and Sweden obey and do the same ?

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They will be now. ANTIFA hangs out in Seattle or from my past news reading this is were the destruction has occurred. Funny how the "protesters" wear the same black hoodie and mask. Pallets of bricks mysteriously show up on a street corner in the city.

This group must be watched just as many others are watched here in the states.
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ANTIFA is what I understand active in Denmark and Sweden.
(They do not commit terror, while some say they do)

I don't know what will happen to this group, if they are put on the terrorlist.

Will the government in Denmark and Sweden obey and do the same ?

Markus
They are committing terror and destruction. People are getting hurt. ANTIFA hangs out in Seattle or from my past news reading this is were the destruction occurs on a regular basis. Funny how the "protesters" wear the same black hoodie and mask. Pallets of bricks mysteriously show up on a street corner in the city.

This group must be watched just as many others are watched here in the states.
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Understand there are group of instigators. ANTIFA. For those pointing to extreme right wing AR-15 toting lunatics there is an alternate universe of far extreme left wing who tote bricks, matches and bats. For some reason they have self appointed themselves as the Justice League. The riots are conducted by ANTIFA. These individuals drive from city to city inciting.
Hm. No.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/the...n-minneapolis/

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/p...nDIXgEL9LT_Kgk

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/0...in-twin-cities
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Hmmm...yes. There are groups from both side of crazy.
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