Reinforce Alert 1.50 Question

dashyr · 04-18-21, 12:34 AM

I have a question for those playing this mod in 2021.

What distance can be considered "safe" for surface contact and submarines if I need to avoid detection entirely? Like, within what range is it pretty much guaranteed to be detected no matter what you do?

p7p8 · 04-19-21, 01:16 AM

For ships without sonars you can even cavitate few meters under their keel undetected.

Stewy1 · 04-21-21, 05:39 AM

I might as well add my 1.50 question here:

How do you get the best value out of the Towed Arrays on the 688 Flt1?

I was trying to track a Foxtrot, on the same layer - the Hull and Bow Sonars heard him before the towed - almost like it's not working...

The towed (spooled all the way out) picked up his first frequency at 3 NM (6,000 yds) but won't assign a tracker (still madly pressing the button!)

I need to do more testing, but to me this seems strange....

Cheers
Stew

KungPao · 04-21-21, 09:19 AM

It is weird
Usually 688's TA can pickup an old generation diesel electric submarine's Narrow band signal >15nm

what's the length of the TA and what's the speed of 688i?

I would guess the speed is too low so the TA dipped below the layer

another explanation is TA is following your submarine's maneuver , it is a curve shape and not straight behind your sub. in that case it will not be able to locate the contact at the same direction from the hull / bow sonar

kpv1974 · 04-22-21, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewy1

I might as well add my 1.50 question here:

How do you get the best value out of the Towed Arrays on the 688 Flt1?
Stew

Maximal deployed lenght - maximal high sensitivity.

A-Ganger · 04-23-21, 12:05 AM

I believe they messed up some things in RA 1.5.
Read my post on Seawolf/Virginia class TA not picking up enemy <1 mile away dragging TA right beside it at same depth lol umm what........

Backknock · 05-07-21, 01:08 PM

It feels to me like there was a big drop in towed array performance overall going to 1.5. Having the towed array on any western boat out to less than half length can't pick up anything that isn't a cruise liner <~5nm away, and I can only hear warships and submarines at all if they are equally close and the array is completely extended.

I've tried several single missions and campaigns since updating and I usually get blown out of the water by something I couldn't hear that got within a few miles of me, it's pretty frustrating

p7p8 · 05-07-21, 05:30 PM

Read 2 posts above.

04-18-21, 12:34 AM	#1
dashyr Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 133 Downloads: 181 Uploads: 0	Reinforce Alert 1.50 Question I have a question for those playing this mod in 2021. What distance can be considered "safe" for surface contact and submarines if I need to avoid detection entirely? Like, within what range is it pretty much guaranteed to be detected no matter what you do?

04-19-21, 01:16 AM	#2
p7p8 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 742 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 6	For ships without sonars you can even cavitate few meters under their keel undetected. __________________

04-21-21, 05:39 AM	#3
Stewy1 Girt by Sea Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Red Route 1 Posts: 363 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 34	I might as well add my 1.50 question here: How do you get the best value out of the Towed Arrays on the 688 Flt1? I was trying to track a Foxtrot, on the same layer - the Hull and Bow Sonars heard him before the towed - almost like it's not working... The towed (spooled all the way out) picked up his first frequency at 3 NM (6,000 yds) but won't assign a tracker (still madly pressing the button!) I need to do more testing, but to me this seems strange.... Cheers Stew __________________ "This officer has used my ship as his den of iniquity and my wardroom to carry him from bar to bar."

05-07-21, 05:30 PM	#8
p7p8 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 742 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 6	Read 2 posts above. __________________

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04-21-21, 09:19 AM	#4
KungPao Seaman Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Type 091's engine room Posts: 38 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	It is weird Usually 688's TA can pickup an old generation diesel electric submarine's Narrow band signal >15nm what's the length of the TA and what's the speed of 688i? I would guess the speed is too low so the TA dipped below the layer another explanation is TA is following your submarine's maneuver , it is a curve shape and not straight behind your sub. in that case it will not be able to locate the contact at the same direction from the hull / bow sonar

04-23-21, 12:05 AM	#6
A-Ganger Sparky Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 158 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I believe they messed up some things in RA 1.5. Read my post on Seawolf/Virginia class TA not picking up enemy <1 mile away dragging TA right beside it at same depth lol umm what........

05-07-21, 01:08 PM	#7
Backknock Bilge Rat Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	It feels to me like there was a big drop in towed array performance overall going to 1.5. Having the towed array on any western boat out to less than half length can't pick up anything that isn't a cruise liner <~5nm away, and I can only hear warships and submarines at all if they are equally close and the array is completely extended. I've tried several single missions and campaigns since updating and I usually get blown out of the water by something I couldn't hear that got within a few miles of me, it's pretty frustrating