[REL] Open Horizons II

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by gap

Hi Trevallly,

I've prepared a scheme resuming the info on German replenishments in Spanish ports previously posted by me, and proposing a possible availability pattern within OHII campaigns. Here it is:

Location: Ferrol
Date range: Jun 40 - Sep 42

Campaigns / Objectives:

• Coastal Waters / South Western Approaches (Jan - Jun 40)
• Operation Drumbeat (Dec 41 - Sep 42)

Location: Vigo
Date range: Jun 40 - Dec 41

Campaigns / Objectives:

• Happy Times (Jun 40 - Mar 41)
• Western Approaches / British Supplies (Mar - Dec 41)
• Western Approaches / Gibraltar Supply Route (Mar - Dec 41)
• Western Approaches / Winston's Special (Mar - Dec 41)
• Mare Nostrum / Breakthrough Gibraltar (Mar - Sep 41)

Location: Cadiz
Date range: Jan 40 - Nov 41

Campaigns / Objectives:

• Coastal Waters / South Western Approaches (Jan - Jun 40)
• Western Approaches / Gibraltar Supply Route (Mar - Dec 41)
• Mare Nostrum / Breakthrough Gibraltar (Mar - Sep 41)

Location: Las Palmas
Date range: Mar - Jul 41

Campaigns / Objectives:

• Western Approaches / Winston's Special (Mar - Dec 41)
• Western Approaches / Central Atlantic Supplies (Apr - Nov 41)
• Western Approaches / South Atlantic Convoys (Apr - Nov 41)

I've done my best to match in game base locations, patrol areas, objective dates, refitting ports, etc, with the data available on historical U-boat patrols that required a refuelling in a spanish port. Nevertheless, I am sure that given your deep knolwledge of OHII campaign, there is space for improvements from your parts. What do you think?

I have one last question: do you think that the refitting from an anchored unit will be possible?

I have been testing this all night and I must say thanks Gap
This is a great idea

Ok so here is my test run:-
This is the MV Bessel set as a supply ship in the Spanish port of Vigo from 01/06/40 to 31/03/41
It will move away after that date and you will no longer be able to resupply in Vigo



In game - here is the harbour




So here it is
Refuelling on a beautiful night in the Spanish port of Vigo
MV Bessel gave us full load of fuel, torps and fresh food

[gap]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

I have been testing this all night and I must say thanks Gap
This is a great idea

Ok so here is my test run:-
This is the MV Bessel set as a supply ship in the Spanish port of Vigo from 01/06/40 to 31/03/41
It will move away after that date and you will no longer be able to resupply in Vigo

So here it is
Refuelling on a beautiful night in the Spanish port of Vigo
MV Bessel gave us full load of fuel, torps and fresh food

It was not my intention
to give you a sleepless night, Trev, but hey... given the results I think they were well worth it

Besides Vigo, does OHII feature the required ports of Ferrol, Cadiz and Las Plamas yet? thfeu58's mod for sure includes Ferrol

P.S. I will now investigate on the remaining German auxiliary replenishment ships of the Atlantic

[gap]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

This is the MV Bessel set as a supply ship in the Spanish port of Vigo from 01/06/40 to 31/03/41
It will move away after that date and you will no longer be able to resupply in Vigo

Just a minor detail: with the exception of MV Schliemann, that left the Canaries on 24 Feb 42, serving as replenishment in South Atlantic and then in the Indian Ocean until her sinking in '44, most of the German tankers interned in Spanish ports reached their respective destinations before the beginning of WWII, and remained there until the end of the conflict, though after late '41 - early '42 they were no longer used as replenishment ships.

Getting back to your example, MV Bessel should be located in Vigo from the first day of the first campaign, though it should be used as replenishment only from 01/06/40. Similarly, after 31/03/41 it should be replaced with an identical unit, but deprived of its refitting prerogatives.

[Trevally.]

Most harbours are in OHII - some will need linked to the common grid, others need adding the 3d harbour.

I can't add thfeu's mod as OHII is way beyond that point, but I can make any new harbours where required

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by gap

Just a minor detail: with the exception of MV Schliemann, that served as replenishment in the Indian Ocean during late war, leaving the Canaries on 24 Feb 42, most of the German tankers interned in Spanish ports reached their respective destinations before the beginning of WWII, and remained there until the end of the conflict, though after late '41 - early '42 they were no longer used as replenishment ships.

Getting back to your example, MV Bessel should be located in Vigo from the first day of the first campaign, though it should be used as replenishment only from 01/06/40. Similarly, after 31/03/41 it should be replaced with an identical unit, but deprived of its refitting prerogatives.

That is ok as the ship and refit ability are not linked. So the ship can stay and the refit can be date limited

[gap]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Most harbours are in OHII - some will need linked to the common grid, others need adding the 3d harbour.

I can't add thfeu's mod as OHII is way beyond that point, but I can make any new harbours where required

Yes, but peraphs you can use some terrain modification or 3d models from thfeu's mod

Originally Posted by Trevally.

That is ok as the ship and refit ability are not linked. So the ship can stay and the refit can be date limited

Perfect!

If like me you are a realism fetishist (I know you are, even though you feel embarassed to admit it! ), you might want to give Las Palmas 2 tankers from the beginning of the war, making one of them to leave from February 42!

[THE_MASK]

How about this for the realists .
http://indicatorloops.com/

[GT182]

Originally Posted by sober

How about this for the realists .
http://indicatorloops.com/

There goes the neighborhood. I feel a new sensor mod is going to be in the works.

Nice link Sober. Never realised that was done..... never heard of it before either.

[GT182]

CSPmagui Beta and OHII are installed and SH5 is running great. No problems at all. Seeing how I got thru Total Germany and got no credit, I started a new campaign with Happy Times. Thanks to Trevaly and Silent Steel for all the help. SH5 just keeps getting better and better with all that everyone is doing. And I thank you one and all for a job well done.

One suggestion tho, unless I messed up with a mod someplace. Put the Better Torpedo Graphics v2 mod in either CSPmagui and OHII. Once everything was installed I still had the stock SH5 torpedos, and they looked nasty compared to everything else. Now they look like real torpedos.

[vlad29]

Originally Posted by GT182

CSPmagui Beta and OHII are installed and SH5 is running great. No problems at all.

Sounds great! Have You tried "Scleighfahrt" mega mod from Uekel - it runs great under CSP Magui?

[Silent Steel]

Originally Posted by vlad29

Sounds great! Have You tried "Scleighfahrt" mega mod from Uekel - it runs great under CSP Magui?

Uvazjaemyj Vlad,

Pozjalujsta, ty mozjet byt znaet totjnoe nazvanie moda Uekela 'Schleichfahrt'?

Ne najdu

Tichij Stal

[volodya61]

Originally Posted by Silent Steel

..Pozjalujsta, ty mozjet byt znaet totjnoe nazvanie moda Uekela 'Schleichfahrt'?..

Hi Silent!

I'm not Vlad but I can help you - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=812
You're welcome!

Volodya..

[volodya61]

Hi Trevally!

Long time didn't play the game..
Do you already know about this issue?



Just finished North Western Approaches, game date 09/02/40, Coastal Waters campaign, South Western Approaches, there is no secondary mission request..

I have already edited the file - PatrolObjectives_TotalGermany39.cfg by myself as you advised me before..

Volodya..

[Silent Steel]

Originally Posted by volodya61

Hi Silent!

I'm not Vlad but I can help you - http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=812
You're welcome!

Volodya..

Thanks for your assistance Volodya!

[GT182]

Volodya61 what does this "Scleighfahrt" mega mod do, and can it be installed with both CSPMagui and OHII installed together? And is it in English, or is there an English version? Sounds interesting from what I see from Silent Steel's interest in it.