Wolfpack: Project Escorts - Page 3

Fidd · 07-25-20, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Caseck

I'm hoping SEA POWER goes multiplayer, but they're still mulling the idea around. Since DW and before that HARPOON the pickings are slim.

This is my number 1 hope for the game, simply because the behaviour, "intelligence" if you will, of players operating according to orders from a convoy commander, is going to be far far less predictable and dangerous to U-boat players than an AI will ever be. I can forsee some very prolonged DC attacks for a start, where marshalling the u-boat's battery power, dealing with damage (a hopefully more nuanced and detailed damage model) will provide some really memorable games.

AKD · 07-26-20, 05:39 PM

There is a bit of technical information on Hedgehog (and ASDIC / SONAR use generally) in this post-war USN sonarman training manual (mind you some aspects only concern tech that was deployed at the very end or after the war):

https://play.google.com/books/reader...en&pg=GBS.PA44

skipjack578 · 07-26-20, 06:03 PM

Nice find

...i also found this on waky page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog

Fearless · 08-13-20, 05:54 AM

Awesome stuff. Looking forward to commanding the escort.

Captain_AJ · 02-10-21, 06:19 PM

Id Say a good way to not be in public and out of the way of the damm mask commies .. Great Work

Fidd · 07-17-21, 05:28 AM

any movement on playable escorts?

Fidd · 02-26-22, 02:08 PM

This is by way of a bump. I cannot over-emphasise how much I'd enjoy playing wolf-pack in battles were all, or some, of various escorts are playable, with crew-positions for the Bridge, gunnery turrets or positions, Asdic, Helmsman etc. The game experience of being hunted after an attack, knowing that's it's a real human player trying to out-wit you would be utterly different to that of being briefly hunted by an AI ship.

We'd need the Corvettes obviously, but also a small range of destroyers, ideally with a "convoy commander" playable position who can cause the convoy to make course/speed changes and attach escorts to an Asdic hunt or detach them to take up positions around the convoy.

There's a tremendous amount of extra interest that could be added to the game in this way, from various usable weapons such as hedge-hogs, to use of star-shells, and actual human observation rather than simple range-driven visual ranges.

Sirjonkey · 12-18-22, 06:18 AM

would be awesome,
would love to send air support above those submarines

mia389 · 12-20-22, 02:33 PM

This would be excellent! I love wolf pack so far. I recently purchased destroyer - the uboat hunter and had a blast being on the other side. This would be an amazing addition to wolfpack. Not sure how it will be implemented when the time comes but I would buy it!

The pictures look great!

Fidd · 03-13-23, 11:14 AM

Replayability. That's absolutely key to sand-box shooters, of which both Wolfpack and Destroyer - The U-boat hunter are BOTH examples of. Both also suffer from the same problem, namely that once you've mastered aiming torpedoes and evading escorts, there's nothing else to learn, and little replayability. This is chiefly because AI always sucks, and AI actions, be they of the convoy itself, or of AI escorts are always, relatively speaking, as dumb as a fence-post.

Wolfpack seriously needs PVP via player operable escorts, and likewise Destroyer needs human operated Uboats for either game to be able to retain players in the long-term. The addition of all crew-compartments has been good, and I look forward to learning to operate the engines and e-motors, however, in my personal view, it was an error not to move quicker to the PVP playable escorts instead. YMMV of course.

08-13-20, 05:54 AM	#34
Fearless Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,025 Downloads: 315 Uploads: 1	Awesome stuff. Looking forward to commanding the escort. __________________ Fearless System Specs: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8 Core 16 Thread CPU, 3.8GHz Base Clock, 4.7GHz Boost, 105W TDP, 32MB L3 cache \| MSI GeForce RTX3060Ti 8Gb Graphics \| Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32Gb (2x16Gb) 3200 MHz CL16 DDR4 Ram \| Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD 1TB \| Seagate Barracuda 2.5in 2TB HDD \| AOC QHD 165 Hz FreeSync HDR curved 31.5in Monitor \| ASUS ROG Strix LC 240 ARGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler White Edition \| ASUS ROG Strix Gold 750W Modular Power Supply \| Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB Tempered Glass Mid Tower Case White.

02-10-21, 06:19 PM	#35
Captain_AJ Crusty Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 648 Downloads: 324 Uploads: 0	getting back in my boat Id Say a good way to not be in public and out of the way of the damm mask commies .. Great Work __________________ Captain AJ

12-18-22, 06:18 AM	#38
Sirjonkey Seaman Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Netherlands Posts: 39 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	would be awesome would be awesome, would love to send air support above those submarines

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07-26-20, 05:39 PM	#32
AKD Watch Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 22 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	There is a bit of technical information on Hedgehog (and ASDIC / SONAR use generally) in this post-war USN sonarman training manual (mind you some aspects only concern tech that was deployed at the very end or after the war): https://play.google.com/books/reader...en&pg=GBS.PA44

07-26-20, 06:03 PM	#33
skipjack578 Watch Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 30 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Nice find ...i also found this on waky page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgehog

07-17-21, 05:28 AM	#36
Fidd Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 218 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	any movement on playable escorts?

02-26-22, 02:08 PM	#37
Fidd Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 218 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	This is by way of a bump. I cannot over-emphasise how much I'd enjoy playing wolf-pack in battles were all, or some, of various escorts are playable, with crew-positions for the Bridge, gunnery turrets or positions, Asdic, Helmsman etc. The game experience of being hunted after an attack, knowing that's it's a real human player trying to out-wit you would be utterly different to that of being briefly hunted by an AI ship. We'd need the Corvettes obviously, but also a small range of destroyers, ideally with a "convoy commander" playable position who can cause the convoy to make course/speed changes and attach escorts to an Asdic hunt or detach them to take up positions around the convoy. There's a tremendous amount of extra interest that could be added to the game in this way, from various usable weapons such as hedge-hogs, to use of star-shells, and actual human observation rather than simple range-driven visual ranges.

12-20-22, 02:33 PM	#39
mia389 中国水兵 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Dayton OH Posts: 271 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	This would be excellent! I love wolf pack so far. I recently purchased destroyer - the uboat hunter and had a blast being on the other side. This would be an amazing addition to wolfpack. Not sure how it will be implemented when the time comes but I would buy it! The pictures look great!

03-13-23, 11:14 AM	#40
Fidd Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 218 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Replayability. That's absolutely key to sand-box shooters, of which both Wolfpack and Destroyer - The U-boat hunter are BOTH examples of. Both also suffer from the same problem, namely that once you've mastered aiming torpedoes and evading escorts, there's nothing else to learn, and little replayability. This is chiefly because AI always sucks, and AI actions, be they of the convoy itself, or of AI escorts are always, relatively speaking, as dumb as a fence-post. Wolfpack seriously needs PVP via player operable escorts, and likewise Destroyer needs human operated Uboats for either game to be able to retain players in the long-term. The addition of all crew-compartments has been good, and I look forward to learning to operate the engines and e-motors, however, in my personal view, it was an error not to move quicker to the PVP playable escorts instead. YMMV of course.