SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-19-23, 01:31 PM   #1
D-Jones
Gunner
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 100
Downloads: 149
Uploads: 0
Default Ouestion about RSRDC--

I've only ever played it until mid/late 1942, but I'm puzzled. Starting the game, there are convoys, i.e., more than one merchant escorted by DDs. There's the invasion of the Philippines and Guadalcanal, but it seems to be just unescorted single merchants throughout, if you can find them. It's kind of fun sending them to the bottom at no risk and it's good target practice, but it becomes redundant and I start to feel sorry for them. There are no "missions" either. Does this change as the game progresses past 42? Do single merchants finally wise up and start travelling in convoys? I don't know what "campaign layers" refers to. Maybe I'm missing something.

Just curious. Having a great game with TMO alone. I can actually be destroyed.
D-Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-23, 02:42 PM   #2
KaleunMarco
Silent Hunter
 
KaleunMarco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago area, which is more dangerous than Omaha Beach.
Posts: 3,892
Downloads: 431
Uploads: 26


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Jones View Post
I've only ever played it until mid/late 1942, but I'm puzzled. Starting the game, there are convoys, i.e., more than one merchant escorted by DDs. There's the invasion of the Philippines and Guadalcanal, but it seems to be just unescorted single merchants throughout, if you can find them. It's kind of fun sending them to the bottom at no risk and it's good target practice, but it becomes redundant and I start to feel sorry for them. There are no "missions" either. Does this change as the game progresses past 42? Do single merchants finally wise up and start travelling in convoys? I don't know what "campaign layers" refers to. Maybe I'm missing something.

Just curious. Having a great game with TMO alone. I can actually be destroyed.
TMO+RSRD will present a lot of single ship encounters. the best path to success is to find the routes that are active and just patrol that area as they wander in and never wander out.

traffic wanes in the later part of the war, with the shipping routes moving west until they hug the Chinese coast and the SoJ.

you will not see many convoys with this set of mods. when you do, jump on them. if they exist, they will follow the same lanes as the single ships do.

if you check out the TMO 2.5 forum, you will see that i posted my run-in with a 20 ship convoy. that was certainly a unique experience.

__________________
there are only two things in the world: submarines and targets.
Fortis et stabilis et fidelis, semper


------------------------------------------------------------
Silent Hunter 4 1.5 Gold Edition on CDROM
LAA enabled
Dell XPS with 32 GB Ram running Win10
KaleunMarco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-23, 08:06 PM   #3
D-Jones
Gunner
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 100
Downloads: 149
Uploads: 0
Default

Thanks for the reply. What mods, if any, retain convoys, even small convoys? FotRS? Stock with GFO? I'm not a fan of all merchants being escorted by 5 DDs, but some should travel in convoys with one or two escorts, imo.
D-Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-23, 09:52 PM   #4
KaleunMarco
Silent Hunter
 
KaleunMarco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago area, which is more dangerous than Omaha Beach.
Posts: 3,892
Downloads: 431
Uploads: 26


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Jones View Post
Thanks for the reply. What mods, if any, retain convoys, even small convoys? FotRS? Stock with GFO? I'm not a fan of all merchants being escorted by 5 DDs, but some should travel in convoys with one or two escorts, imo.
stock/gfo.

FOTRSU might have convoys. ask PB if FOTRSU has more convoy action than stock.
__________________
there are only two things in the world: submarines and targets.
Fortis et stabilis et fidelis, semper


------------------------------------------------------------
Silent Hunter 4 1.5 Gold Edition on CDROM
LAA enabled
Dell XPS with 32 GB Ram running Win10
KaleunMarco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-23, 05:03 AM   #5
Kpt. Weyprecht
Gunner
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 97
Downloads: 89
Uploads: 0
Default

I am playing FotRSU right now and I encounter a good deal of armed merchants traveling in groups but without escorts and some small convoys. As far as I know (there are plenty of people way more knowledgeable than me around here) large convoys with strong escorts were historically quite rare until late in war when the Japanese had fewer merchants left and plenty of escorts.

The real challenge comes from the task forces.
Kpt. Weyprecht is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-23-23, 09:47 PM   #6
D-Jones
Gunner
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 100
Downloads: 149
Uploads: 0
Default

I'm trying FOTRS now. Great mod. Both are great. There seem to be more convoys so far. Still early 42 though. I want to see how it progresses.

Another question that applies to all versions--does Very Hard/"Realistic" difficulty setting effect the AI, or does it just have to do with the start of campaign default settings which can be manually changed anyway, i.e., manual targeting, map contacts, etc.
D-Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-23, 09:07 AM   #7
KaleunMarco
Silent Hunter
 
KaleunMarco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago area, which is more dangerous than Omaha Beach.
Posts: 3,892
Downloads: 431
Uploads: 26


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Jones View Post
I'm trying FOTRS now. Great mod. Both are great. There seem to be more convoys so far. Still early 42 though. I want to see how it progresses.

Another question that applies to all versions--does Very Hard/"Realistic" difficulty setting effect the AI, or does it just have to do with the start of campaign default settings which can be manually changed anyway, i.e., manual targeting, map contacts, etc.
the latter alternative: the career difficulty option will only affect the items that are listed in the gameplay options screen, while you are in port: manual targeting, map contacts, duds, cameras, et.al.
__________________
there are only two things in the world: submarines and targets.
Fortis et stabilis et fidelis, semper


------------------------------------------------------------
Silent Hunter 4 1.5 Gold Edition on CDROM
LAA enabled
Dell XPS with 32 GB Ram running Win10
KaleunMarco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-23, 11:23 AM   #8
D-Jones
Gunner
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 100
Downloads: 149
Uploads: 0
Default

Thanks, KM.
D-Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-23, 01:25 PM   #9
propbeanie
CTD - it's not just a job
 
propbeanie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: One hour from Music City USA!
Posts: 9,719
Downloads: 439
Uploads: 2


Default

Those settings do the "multiplier" stuff, and you'll see a "percentage" displayed on your screen somewhere on the settings page, about what percentage you are at. What those do, is if you sink a ship of say 1200 renown points, and your "realism" is set at 72% as an example, you would score 1200x0.75=900, so 900 renown points instead of the 1200 that is assigned to a ship.
__________________

"...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna
propbeanie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2024 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.