Huge pro-EU rally grips Ukraine - Page 7

Onkel Neal · 02-20-14, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Not that you'd accept them, immigration concerns and that.

Well, of course

Oberon · 02-20-14, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, of course

But, I guess they would like to see Montana.

mapuc · 02-20-14, 05:41 PM

When Reading Neal's post made me remember a reporter on Danish TV saying that Russia will not allow Ukrania become close to EU.

This have made me wonder what Russia is going to do after the Olympic is over.

Maybe nothing or?

Markus

TarJak · 02-20-14, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

But, I guess they would like to see Montana.

There's YouTube for that although she goes by the name of Miley Cyrus now. :know

TarJak · 02-20-14, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

The dope is never bad, the humour, perhaps so.

There's your problem... Humour.... Germans...

Skybird · 02-20-14, 06:10 PM

The humour is hard to see if it sounds exactly like former attacks by others and their intended deformations of what I said. Your first two points, Oberon, I realised to be exaggerations, but handing the law to the Mafia at the latest was where humour failed me. I mean most people going to elections even vote for mafia-like organised crime with a monopole to justify itself. That's where not just humour but hope also fails me.

But okay, I now got your point, Oberon. No hard feelings.

mapuc · 02-20-14, 06:19 PM

I'm afraid of what's going to happen next week after the Olympics is over.

I'm afraid, that if a agreement haven't been made, the Ukrainian government with the support from Russia is going to engage the military against the civilians.

I hope I'm wrong.

Markus

Oberon · 02-20-14, 07:30 PM

Some good before and after shots from Kiev:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2...n_beeld__.html

u crank · 02-20-14, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Some good before and after shots from Kiev:

Humans are a messy, no doubt about it.

TarJak · 02-20-14, 10:25 PM

European Union now says that it has settled on sanctions that target those Ukrainian officials that they hold response for this violence.

Can't see them having any real effect on the ground though.

nikimcbee · 02-20-14, 11:46 PM

Everybody raise your hand, who wants to meddle in this conflict? Who's going to call Putin's bluff? Anybody?
I'm not to EU savvy, do they have a military? Would they stick up for them (Western Ukraine)? Maybe they could join/re-join Poland? 1618 boarders

nikimcbee · 02-21-14, 12:01 AM

Rioter footage:

TarJak · 02-21-14, 03:29 AM

Just in: Yanukovych claims he's reached a deal with the opposition to end the crisis. I wonder if Vladimir was on the phone overnight?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-2...crisis/5276502

MH · 02-21-14, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

What have you expected to hear from me? That I suddenly take back all my complex and comprehensive criticism and hostility towards our political regimes, just because an Eastern bully starts to shoot at people? In the end, the Ukrainian fight is the Ukrainians' fight, not ours. We should learn to realise the problems that we have ourselves - and that are constantly accumulating, until they will overwhelm us one not too distant day.

I have no problem with your criticism but rather with your visions.

After all we all do our share of ranting about politicians.

As for the ukraine if this does not escalate further EU will do what is does best in those situations... nothing.
Not surprised if EU let Putin do his best just to avoid some ongoing mess under their noses , might be too exposing.
Putin does his job then two month pass by and everybody gets with their lives.
Even some diplomatc compromise might be reached.

No need for you to worry about.

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Just in: Yanukovych claims he's reached a deal with the opposition to end the crisis. I wonder if Vladimir was on the phone overnight?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-2...crisis/5276502

Oh well....

Jimbuna · 02-21-14, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

Just in: Yanukovych claims he's reached a deal with the opposition to end the crisis. I wonder if Vladimir was on the phone overnight?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-2...crisis/5276502

Once the deal is signed and the small print has been read it shouldn't be too difficult to see if Putins fingerprints are there.

02-20-14, 06:10 PM	#96
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 39,309 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The humour is hard to see if it sounds exactly like former attacks by others and their intended deformations of what I said. Your first two points, Oberon, I realised to be exaggerations, but handing the law to the Mafia at the latest was where humour failed me. I mean most people going to elections even vote for mafia-like organised crime with a monopole to justify itself. That's where not just humour but hope also fails me. But okay, I now got your point, Oberon. No hard feelings. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-20-14, 11:46 PM	#101
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,910 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Everybody raise your hand, who wants to meddle in this conflict? Who's going to call Putin's bluff? Anybody? I'm not to EU savvy, do they have a military? Would they stick up for them (Western Ukraine)? Maybe they could join/re-join Poland? 1618 boarders __________________

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02-20-14, 05:41 PM	#93
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 16,645 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	When Reading Neal's post made me remember a reporter on Danish TV saying that Russia will not allow Ukrania become close to EU. This have made me wonder what Russia is going to do after the Olympic is over. Maybe nothing or? Markus

02-20-14, 06:19 PM	#97
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 16,645 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I'm afraid of what's going to happen next week after the Olympics is over. I'm afraid, that if a agreement haven't been made, the Ukrainian government with the support from Russia is going to engage the military against the civilians. I hope I'm wrong. Markus

02-20-14, 07:30 PM	#98
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Some good before and after shots from Kiev: http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2...n_beeld__.html

02-20-14, 10:25 PM	#100
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	European Union now says that it has settled on sanctions that target those Ukrainian officials that they hold response for this violence. Can't see them having any real effect on the ground though.

02-21-14, 03:29 AM	#103
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Just in: Yanukovych claims he's reached a deal with the opposition to end the crisis. I wonder if Vladimir was on the phone overnight? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-2...crisis/5276502