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Old 01-25-14, 04:37 PM   #31
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Partition Ukraine!

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Old 01-25-14, 05:54 PM   #32
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Partition Ukraine!

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It's one solution, but partitions tend to be a more short term solution than anything else, and usually wind up leading to a war.
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Old 01-25-14, 06:03 PM   #33
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It's one solution, but partitions tend to be a more short term solution than anything else, and usually wind up leading to a war.
I wonder if partition would launch one of those priests posted earlier into a "Vinnytsia says NO" campaign?
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Old 01-26-14, 08:16 PM   #34
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In the seventies, the West, outraged following the Vietnam failure, financed all guerillas that were opposed to the Russians (Afghanistan, Budapest, Uighurs, anti-Castro dissidents...) and subjected entire peoples to intimidation and torture to prevent them from taking side with the Russians.

Now that Russia is back into shape, being an official threat to the hyper-power once again...

→ the West gets back to bring weapons to the worst rogues (ukrainian protesters, members of the andalusian independence movement, cannibals in Libya and Syria), and one can be sure Soros already intends to set up some rebellion in China in months or years to come.

→ and oppresses those living in the satellite states, who threaten the submissiveness of their country to the empire (diverse oppressions and humiliations in France, incarceration of EU opponents in Greece, ruthless suppression of popular uprisings in Saudi Arabia and Qatar, carbonization of children in Palestine, violent oppression of demonstrators in New York, destabilization of many African countries (Mali, Central African Republic, Ivory Coast, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Sudan...)


The situation is critical, this is the return of the cold war.
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Old 01-28-14, 02:56 PM   #35
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Just the president left it would seem.

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Ukraine's President Viktor Yanukovych has accepted the resignation of the prime minister and his cabinet amid continuing anti-government protests.
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Old 01-28-14, 03:33 PM   #36
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Seems a little strange some people are desperate to join the EU but on the other hand if You are likely to get more out than you put in...why not?
Looks like they won ... I think EU would've let them join hoping they could enslave another country no matter what it cost.

Like in Vegas on the crap table they (meaning EU) were working on the come out roll.
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Looks like they won ... I think EU would've let them join hoping they could enslave another country no matter what it cost.

Like in Vegas on the crap table they (meaning EU) were working on the come out roll.
Not sure what you mean
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Old 01-28-14, 05:05 PM   #38
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Make hay while the day lasts - the opposition(s) may want to ensure progress as long as Putin probably will consider to act with some self-restraint due to Sotchi. Once the Mafia Circus is over, they will find it tougher with him again.

Yanukovich probably plays right that time card, I could imagine.

(Mafia Circus I call Sotchi because it seems they only wanted to get the games in order to get access to precious private properties in the Olympic places and expropriate private owners with the Olympic installation building as the legal excuse. Cannot say which was the worst decision for sporting events recently: Bejing, Sotchi or Quatar).
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*smirk*

Can't blame the Americans for their view on the EU, not one bit.
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F### the EU...? F###, that lady is f###ing right!
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Can't blame the Americans for their view on the EU, not one bit.
I would tend to agree.
Poetic justice though.

(on the other hand I actually expect that every secret service in the world is spying on pretty much all higher politicians, otherwise they would be doing a bad job.)
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I am amazed how this story is being spun on this side of the Atlantic - all about the naughty word and the less than complimentary opinions about the EU and Russia.

Hardly anything about any consequences this may have in Ukraine.
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Old 02-08-14, 04:35 PM   #43
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I am amazed how this story is being spun on this side of the Atlantic - all about the naughty word and the less than complimentary opinions about the EU and Russia.
Hardly anything about any consequences this may have in Ukraine.

Oh it is all about the Ukraine, and how the US wants to get their foot in the door.
When the EU dared to protest (since what Vitali Klitschko and the US try to do is not the brightest idea under the sun), this by now well-known Missus said "F the EU".

B.t.w. is there oil, in the Ukraine.
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*smirk*
Can't blame the Americans for their view on the EU, not one bit.
And, also with a smirk - how does it feel being eavesdropped oneself, for a change
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B.t.w. is there oil, in the Ukraine.
Not that I'm aware of, that's one of the things that Russia dangled on a rope for them to sign for keeping the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol, but the Russians are crash-expanding the base at Novorossiysk, so if they do lose Sevastopol it won't be that devastating to the Black Sea Fleet.
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