GER politics thread

[Skybird]

You have nio need to parrot what I just said.

[Skybird]

Bejing opened its new mega airport - after just four years.


Germany - and especially Berlin - has reason to be ashamed. The new airport at Berlin is being opened since 8 years now, after a construction time of 5 years from 2006 to 2011 and a projected follow-on construction due to initial misplanning of another 15 years, from 2020 on, once the so far 8-years lasting opening ceremony has ended. All envisioned stages of construction will be completed in 2035.


Says the great masterplan.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Bejing opened its new mega airport - after just four years.


Germany - and especially Berlin - has reason to be ashamed. The new airport at Berlin is being opened since 8 years now, after a construction time of 5 years from 2006 to 2011 and a projected follow-on construction due to initial misplanning of another 15 years, from 2020 on, once the so far 8-years lasting opening ceremony has ended. All envisioned stages of construction will be completed in 2035.


Says the great masterplan.

Not quite as long as Brexit will take then

[Skybird]

Süddeutsche Zeitung gets quoted with a report on that the Luftwaffe will replace 70 Tornados with capability to carry US-made nuclear weapons stored in Germany until 2025. Word is that the German miltary favours the American F-18 over the Eurofighter for that role, because of the certificaiton process needed to be run by the Americans: the Eurofighter would be able to fill the gap just 3 years later than the Hornet.

I expect that politicians will interfere with the pragmatic preference by the military.


I do not know current prices, but would have no problem with the F-18, its still a damn good plane for its tasked mission profiles.

[Jimbuna]

Why would the nuclear option be preferable?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Why would the nuclear option be preferable?

The US has nuclear bombs based in Germany, and there is an agreement we call "nukleare Teilhabe/nuclear sharing" that allows/demands the Germans to be capable to deliver these weapons in case of war and on German aerial platforms. Technical compatability with the carrier platform must be certified by the Americans, since the weapons are US-made and US technology. Thsi certification takes less time in case of the F-18 than with the Eurofighter. Three years, they write.


There is growing concenr about these weapons due to their age, some experts fear they cannot be moved anymore without risk of "breaking up". Since years there is an occasional report here and there that once again it was/is planned to replace them with new builds. I do not know what has come of this.

[Jimbuna]

Appreciate the clarafication

[Skybird]

Der Spiegel interviewing daniel
ellsberg (whistleblower against Nixon).



https://translate.google.de/translat...-a-1290068.htm


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[Skybird]

Lorry attack in Germany being investigated as act of terror.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49970807

Attacker is a 32 years old syrian whose asylum request was denied.

"Und seid ihr nicht willig , so brauch ich Gewalt."

The attacker is known to police: shoplifting, dangerous bodily injury, drug dealing. A sweetheart and cuty darling.

[Jimbuna]

I wonder if they'll grant his asylum request now as a 'calming measure'

[Skybird]

Recently, here in my "home"town. The reason why I call it the age of infantility. Nicely reminded me of how little, if anything, i have in common with these people. Wait until the band starts playing - and run.

Yes, Germany is just a giant mental asylum.

[Skybird]

The German football association DFB has instruictred its referees in German lague matches that Turkish players shpwing military salutes should not be snacitoned in anyway.


This is in violation of the official UEFA stand on such issues.



Truth is nobod yin germany dares to risk a collision with the Turks and tio unsettle pro-Erdoghan sentiments.



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A recent study also showed that a majority of germans now is afraid of speaking out their mind freely in public, claiming social intimidiation and fear of getting mobbed when saying poltically incorrect things.



They have all reason to be so. The propaganda machine over here works very powerfully now and at the same time very subtle. PC lobby groups and special interest activists enjoy maximum freedom and have a huge arsenal of suppoorts and accomplice sin media, they can trumpet their tunes unhindered and not needing to care for any oppposing reaction.

[Jimbuna]

Sadly, a possible consequence of having an open door policy.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Sadly, a possible consequence of having an open door policy.

No, open door polciies and migration are not the cause here. A general fanatical radicalization to evn ba force forbid others to have a disagreeing opinion, a fanatical coinviction to be 100% right and everybody elkse being 100& wrong and thus failing to qualify for any rights to express it without getting santioned and penalised. An erosion of discussion culture, and narcissistic incapability to accept that others do not agree with one's own view. A paternalistic craving to force imorvemment uppj others as oneself defines "improvement". Dilettantes who think their craving for applause already gives them claim for gettign apllaus ev en if not having dleivered any acievement or havign and skill deserving aplaus: of course empirical testing of claims and staements is not needed as well, since one knows that one is right. The inability to tolerate disgreement. The demand for always acting in consensus becoming a synonyme for tyrannic repression. "Alternativlosigkeit" (by Merkel) ruling out any objection, any disagreeing, any opposition.



What have all these things in common? A basic totalitarian mindset and orientation, a certain lack of tolerance. Thats why I so often call things totalitarian nowadays.



So, it is not just due to the wrong kind of mogrants allowed in in too huge numbers. But of course it would help if Germany were far more pragmatic and selectiove regarding whom we let in and let stay, and whom we sort out. But to even wantign to tlak about that stgmatises you in germany so that you turn ionto a pariah immediately. Remember that quote by Alexis de Toqueville that I repeatedly gave in past months? Its true for germany as well.

Tyranny in democratic republics does not proceed in the same way, however. It ignores the body and goes straight for the soul. The master no longer says: You will think as I do or die. He says: You are free not to think as I do. You may keep your life, your property, and everything else. But from this day forth you shall be as a stranger among us. You will retain your civic privileges, but they will be of no use to you. For if you seek the votes of your fellow citizens, they will withhold them, and if you seek only their esteem, they will feign to refuse even that. You will remain among men, but you will forfeit your rights to humanity. When you approach your fellow creatures, they will shun you as one who is impure. And even those who believe in your innocence will abandon you, lest they, too, be shunned in turn. Go in peace, I will not take your life, but the life I leave you with is worse than death.

^This is what is currently happening. Everywhere, on all levels.


Especially bad it is at universities.

[Jimbuna]

Tis the next generation I feel most sorry for.