[REL] Damage assessment

Arclight · 03-22-10, 01:00 AM

(Technical bit: Added a new "state" for a ship: Damage assessment, placed between "alert" state and "damage control" state. Reworked trigger thresholds for a quicker effect and proper functioning as a whole with the new state. Changes made to "Ship-crewstate.aix" in "..\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Scripts\AI\".)

Changes AI behaviour with regards to keeping speed and sensor effectiveness; enemies will slow down after taking some damage and be less aware of their surroundings.

The threshold depends on % of HP, so ships with higher total HP will need more hits before they slow down. The speed reduction is a percentage as well, so the higher their top speed, the faster they will continue.

In practice this works out to needing 1 hit on a freighter and 2 or more on a big warship to trigger the effect. Merchants, with their low top speed, should slow to a crawl, estimate 3-5 knots.

There's a further reduction in speed as the damage climbs, and eventually the crew will abandon ship, bringing her to a stop. Those are stock behaviours though, just a little tweaked.

!Enabling during patrol is not advised, it has not been tested outside single mission. Preferably enable in port, or at least make absolututely sure there are no ships in a 30KM radius!

Extract into JSGME "MODS" folder and enable.

Intended to work together with "Better and Realistic Flotation", but works perfectly fine as a standalone.

BARF thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164953

DOWNLOAD (5KB)

SPOILER
Here are the numbers:
Slow to 50% speed at 25% damage
Slow to 20% speed at 65% damage
Abandon ship at 85% damage

All sensor effectiveness reduced to 70% while in "damage assessment" state to simulate sending some crewmembers to investigate, captain focusing on getting the damage under control, shock from being hit, etc.

-.-. .... .- -. --. . .-.. --- --.

v1.1
- minor bugfix to avoid possible CTD under apparently very rare circumstances

gutted · 03-22-10, 01:44 AM

hmmm. sounds promising. Maybe now those damaged merchants will fall out of the convoys more often.

will enable it and test it out next time im in port.

Arclight · 03-22-10, 02:00 AM

Unless you hit the convoy leader, then the whole group slows to a crawl.

thruster · 03-22-10, 02:01 AM

brilliant! thank you. this game is clearly getting better and better.

sergei · 03-22-10, 04:55 AM

Outstanding

Dowly · 03-22-10, 05:44 AM

Excellent mod, mate! Loved how the ships lost their visual sensors in stock when damaged enough, now add slower speed to that and vóila!

coronas · 03-22-10, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Abandon ship at 85% damage

...And a trigger for survivors, lifeboats, distress and rescue flares?

BTW, you are doing an excellent work!!

Arclight · 03-22-10, 06:26 AM

Thank you.

Survivors and such are possible, though I still don't know how. Learning as I go, bit by bit. Still doing a lot of exploring, just rumaging through the files, see what I run in to.

I was working on rebalancing the warships, took a break, got distracted and ended up with an altered script for AI.

The General · 03-22-10, 06:30 AM

I haven't seen any lifeboats yet in the stock game

, so I'll give this a try. Thanks very much.

Heretic · 03-22-10, 12:30 PM

Nice. I've been wondering when someone was going to get into the ship AI scripts. Looks like lots of cool stuff will be possible.

Heretic · 03-22-10, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

I was working on rebalancing the warships, took a break, got distracted and ended up with an altered script for AI.

I know how that goes. I was just looking into adding hats to my crew and one thing led to another.

TheBeast · 03-24-10, 05:17 PM

It appears I have found some type of scripting dependancy or this MOD must be installed before starting a Carreer.
I added the Damage Assessment MOD while in port after I exited the game.
JSGME did not report any conflicts. I am currently using the following MODS:

RemoveUbiLogoandIntro
Accurate German Flags
A Fistful of Emblems v1.5
Better Torpedo Graphics
Torpedo Splash
Free Cam Tweak 1.0
Capthelms SH5 Audio Mod
MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps 1.0
Conning Tower Compass Fix
Captains_Picture
Enhanced Ship Recon Manual V1.01
No Moral Cooldowns
NewUI_0_3_0_ByTheDarkWraith
TheBeasts_SH5_Commands_OrdersBar
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.1.1 Stock Faces

My crew voices stopped working when executing commands. Some Commands that worked fine before resulted in CTD, other commands didnt work at all.
I exited SH5, removed this MOD and everything works fine.
I even tried loading this MOD first and started a NEW Career and same problem persisted. That indicates some type of scripting dependancy from another MOD. Most likely the NewUI by TheDarkWraith.

Arclight · 03-24-10, 05:36 PM

It just adds a block of code to an existing script. All the previous states are still valid, though it's possible the new state is not recognized by other scripts.

I don't see how any script that deals with the interface is dependant on the "crew state" of an AI ship though.

Try it on a stock game, see if it works.

Anyone else experiencing issues? Or not? Would like some feedback either way, see if it this is an isolated case or widespread.

If anyone is still using it in case of massive fail, of course.

TheBeast · 03-24-10, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

I don't see how any script that deals with the interface is dependant on the "crew state" of an AI ship though.

The NewUI is trying to make Crew Command availability dependant on Crew Damage State. So if a Key crew member is injured or dead those commands relating to that position are delayed or are not executed at all. Not sure how it relates to the AI other then pulling info from it.
I have no idea as to why sounds stopped working and some commands were causing CTD.

Arclight · 03-24-10, 06:50 PM

No, me neither. But if someone else's mod alters AI behaviour as well, it's no surprise issues are going to crop up.

I can't "debug" this in any sense, so apart from issuing a warning for a possible incompatibility with DarkWraith's UI mod and CaptHelm's sound mod, there's nothing I can do.

03-22-10, 01:00 AM	#1
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	[REL] Damage assessment v1.1 (Technical bit: Added a new "state" for a ship: Damage assessment, placed between "alert" state and "damage control" state. Reworked trigger thresholds for a quicker effect and proper functioning as a whole with the new state. Changes made to "Ship-crewstate.aix" in "..\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\data\Scripts\AI\".) Changes AI behaviour with regards to keeping speed and sensor effectiveness; enemies will slow down after taking some damage and be less aware of their surroundings. The threshold depends on % of HP, so ships with higher total HP will need more hits before they slow down. The speed reduction is a percentage as well, so the higher their top speed, the faster they will continue. In practice this works out to needing 1 hit on a freighter and 2 or more on a big warship to trigger the effect. Merchants, with their low top speed, should slow to a crawl, estimate 3-5 knots. There's a further reduction in speed as the damage climbs, and eventually the crew will abandon ship, bringing her to a stop. Those are stock behaviours though, just a little tweaked. !Enabling during patrol is not advised, it has not been tested outside single mission. Preferably enable in port, or at least make absolututely sure there are no ships in a 30KM radius! Extract into JSGME "MODS" folder and enable. Intended to work together with "Better and Realistic Flotation", but works perfectly fine as a standalone. BARF thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164953 DOWNLOAD (5KB) SPOILER Here are the numbers: Slow to 50% speed at 25% damage Slow to 20% speed at 65% damage Abandon ship at 85% damage All sensor effectiveness reduced to 70% while in "damage assessment" state to simulate sending some crewmembers to investigate, captain focusing on getting the damage under control, shock from being hit, etc. -.-. .... .- -. --. . .-.. --- --. v1.1 - minor bugfix to avoid possible CTD under apparently very rare circumstances __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia. Last edited by Arclight; 03-30-10 at 04:23 AM.

03-22-10, 01:44 AM	#2
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,353 Downloads: 470 Uploads: 10	hmmm. sounds promising. Maybe now those damaged merchants will fall out of the convoys more often. will enable it and test it out next time im in port. __________________ Solution Solver 2.3.2 - Visual Targeting Tools & Aids

03-22-10, 02:00 AM	#3
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Unless you hit the convoy leader, then the whole group slows to a crawl. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-22-10, 06:26 AM	#8
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Thank you. Survivors and such are possible, though I still don't know how. Learning as I go, bit by bit. Still doing a lot of exploring, just rumaging through the files, see what I run in to. I was working on rebalancing the warships, took a break, got distracted and ended up with an altered script for AI. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-22-10, 06:30 AM	#9
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	I haven't seen any lifeboats yet in the stock game , so I'll give this a try. Thanks very much. __________________ *THE GENERAL*

03-22-10, 02:01 AM	#4
thruster Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 139 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	brilliant! thank you. this game is clearly getting better and better.

03-22-10, 04:55 AM	#5
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Outstanding

03-22-10, 05:44 AM	#6
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Excellent mod, mate! Loved how the ships lost their visual sensors in stock when damaged enough, now add slower speed to that and vóila!

03-22-10, 12:30 PM	#10
Heretic Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 617 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 2	Nice. I've been wondering when someone was going to get into the ship AI scripts. Looks like lots of cool stuff will be possible. __________________ - heretic I enjoy drinking beer. MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 - Updated 22 March MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps Crew AI Scripting Information

03-24-10, 05:17 PM	#12
TheBeast The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,533 Downloads: 876 Uploads: 23	NPC Voices Stop Working It appears I have found some type of scripting dependancy or this MOD must be installed before starting a Carreer. I added the Damage Assessment MOD while in port after I exited the game. JSGME did not report any conflicts. I am currently using the following MODS: RemoveUbiLogoandIntro Accurate German Flags A Fistful of Emblems v1.5 Better Torpedo Graphics Torpedo Splash Free Cam Tweak 1.0 Capthelms SH5 Audio Mod MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps 1.0 Conning Tower Compass Fix Captains_Picture Enhanced Ship Recon Manual V1.01 No Moral Cooldowns NewUI_0_3_0_ByTheDarkWraith TheBeasts_SH5_Commands_OrdersBar MightyFine Crew Mod 1.1.1 Stock Faces My crew voices stopped working when executing commands. Some Commands that worked fine before resulted in CTD, other commands didnt work at all. I exited SH5, removed this MOD and everything works fine. I even tried loading this MOD first and started a NEW Career and same problem persisted. That indicates some type of scripting dependancy from another MOD. Most likely the NewUI by TheDarkWraith. __________________ Fear me! I am, TheBeastBelow SHIV-MediaFire \| SHV-MediaFire

03-24-10, 05:36 PM	#13
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	It just adds a block of code to an existing script. All the previous states are still valid, though it's possible the new state is not recognized by other scripts. I don't see how any script that deals with the interface is dependant on the "crew state" of an AI ship though. Try it on a stock game, see if it works. Anyone else experiencing issues? Or not? Would like some feedback either way, see if it this is an isolated case or widespread. If anyone is still using it in case of massive fail, of course. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-24-10, 06:50 PM	#15
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	No, me neither. But if someone else's mod alters AI behaviour as well, it's no surprise issues are going to crop up. I can't "debug" this in any sense, so apart from issuing a warning for a possible incompatibility with DarkWraith's UI mod and CaptHelm's sound mod, there's nothing I can do. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.