US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Skybird]

Is anything known about the record of those dead cops from that day, I mean is it known whether they belonged to the Trump sympathising faction that even seemed to have let people in, posed for selfies and removed barricades, or were they belonging to those who indeed tried to fought the attackers off?


This might make a possible difference for explanations. Between post-stress trauma, and feelings of shame and guilt for example.



Or they just had their hearts broken from what is happening in their country and the ideas they might have had on their minds when deciding for a police career.



Speculations are infinite, but some seem less nlikely than others. In principle Neal's vague hinting at a possible conspiration to silence unwanted witnesses or accomplices of something also is not off the table. But before name and face and man gets accused, there needs to be shown sufficient hints for such a suspicion.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Is anything known about the record of those dead cops from that day, I mean is it known whether they belonged to the Trump sympathising faction that even seemed to have let people in, posed for selfies and removed barricades, or were they belonging to those who indeed tried to fought the attackers off?


This might make a possible difference for explanations. Between post-stress trauma, and feelings of shame and guilt for example.



Or they just had their hearts broken from what is happening in their country and the ideas they might have had on their minds when deciding for a police career.



Speculations are infinite, but some seem less nlikely than others. In principle Neal's vague hinting at a possible conspiration to silence unwanted witnesses or accomplices of something also is not off the table. But before name and face and man gets accused, there needs to be shown sufficient hints for such a suspicion.

We might also consider the possibility that they may have been prior military and served in Iraq, Afghanistan or other war zones. So they could have already been dealing with a lot of PTSD baggage.

[AVGWarhawk]

Today's climate for police officers is nothing short of toxic. They have a target on their backs. They are openly hated. Politicians do not support them, the media does not support them, and some parts of society do not support them. Some of this non-support is well earned. However, there a many good police officers doing the job but they are grouped as one and all bad. Everyone hates a cop until they need one. To add to this discussion, a friend of mine was at the Capitol the day the insurrection occurred. He commented first hand witnessing the police being harassed by Antifa. The police were powerless on this day. They are powerless on most days. Being hated day to day is not a healthy way to live. The news media can be nothing short of relentless.

[mapuc]

Is there other political forums or FB groups where people discuss US politics in general.

I'm on a crusade to find things I haven't found here or among most of my FB-friends.
I have seen it among our MSM journalist and few of my fb-friends otherwise not.

Why this search is because what a friends friend said to me some month ago.

My American friends says....

I'll never accuse a person from lying, but I haven't exactly found any how really does.

I'm talking about American voters who worship Biden.

Markus

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Is anything known about the record of those dead cops from that day, I mean is it known whether they belonged to the Trump sympathising faction that even seemed to have let people in, posed for selfies and removed barricades, or were they belonging to those who indeed tried to fought the attackers off?


This might make a possible difference for explanations. Between post-stress trauma, and feelings of shame and guilt for example.



Or they just had their hearts broken from what is happening in their country and the ideas they might have had on their minds when deciding for a police career.



Speculations are infinite, but some seem less nlikely than others. In principle Neal's vague hinting at a possible conspiration to silence unwanted witnesses or accomplices of something also is not off the table. But before name and face and man gets accused, there needs to be shown sufficient hints for such a suspicion.

To make sure I'm crystal clear, I do not believe there's a murder conspiracy. As I said, that's to crazy and would certainly blow up.

I hadn't dug into the background and political affiliations of these officers, I agree, it would be interesting to know.

[Skybird]

Neal, then I maybe red something into your words. Sorry, didn't want to put something in your mouth.

[mapuc]

I'm convinced your authorities will look into it very closely to why these four former police officer commit suicide(according to this link provide by Neal)

Markus

[Rockstar]

[mapuc]

Now I wonder does Biden sound like a senile when he speaks without a teleprompte ? I have only, from my memory seen and heard him once without this teleprompte(a link posted by me)and heard him in the video ^

Or is only sometimes he does that ?

Markus

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Now I wonder does Biden sound like a senile when he speaks without a teleprompte ? I have only, from my memory seen and heard him once without this teleprompte(a link posted by me)and heard him in the video ^

Or is only sometimes he does that ?

Markus

It's all the time. He's a dementia sufferer. Although he's a bad guy who is as crooked as a dog's leg, it's still criminal what his wranglers and power-mad wife are doing exploiting his condition.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

It's all the time. He's a dementia sufferer. Although he's a bad guy who is as crooked as a dog's leg, it's still criminal what his wranglers and power-mad wife are doing exploiting his condition.

Is the political correctness so...so that no one dare to step forward saying what some or most of the American know ?

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

It's all the time. He's a dementia sufferer. Although he's a bad guy who is as crooked as a dog's leg, it's still criminal what his wranglers and power-mad wife are doing exploiting his condition.

I'm not finding anything but opinion pieces regarding this so I'll just call it unsubstantiated rumor.
https://constitution.congress.gov/co.../amendment-25/

So voting is a priviledge?
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ponsibilities/

What about the 15th amendment?
https://constitution.congress.gov/co.../amendment-15/

Or the 19th amendment?
https://constitution.congress.gov/co.../amendment-19/

Or the 24th amendment?
https://constitution.congress.gov/co.../amendment-24/

Or the 26th amendment?
https://constitution.congress.gov/co.../amendment-26/

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Today's climate for police officers is nothing short of toxic. They have a target on their backs. They are openly hated. Politicians do not support them, the media does not support them, and some parts of society do not support them. Some of this non-support is well earned. However, there a many good police officers doing the job but they are grouped as one and all bad. Everyone hates a cop until they need one.

Has been and still is the case for some time now here in the UK and I'm actually overjoyed I'm well out of it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Has been and still is the case for some time now here in the UK and I'm actually overjoyed I'm well out of it.

Jim, I bet you are. Now some cities are seeing the fallout with defunding the police. Who would want to sign up now? Best of luck to them.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Jim, I bet you are. Now some cities are seeing the fallout with defunding the police. Who would want to sign up now? Best of luck to them.

Not sure but I think this time it has more to do with city leaders emptying the jails. If you look hard enough there are plenty of police chiefs complaining about the catch and release policies.