GER politics thread

[Skybird]

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I have a question on this, just one:
What the heck is this folly supposed to mean...??? I cant stand this idiotic symbolic mumbojumbo, and this euphoric Germna love for always "ein Zeichen setzen". Who cares...?

Okay, that were two questions.

Not even others in the West seem top understand what the Germans hope to acchieve there. Or is is maybe just a self-promotion project of AKW (the German girly playing defence ministress) for her career chances after the elections...?

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Random find of the day.
"A country whose government wants to prevent global warming by more than two degrees in a hundred years, and ignores the warning of 200 liters rain per square meter for the next day, has one thing above all: a serious problem with reality." [...]

That is your and the human problem. But this problem is not that you can or cannot solve instant poblems, the main problem is the complete human inability to imagine what will happen a hundred or more years ahead.

[Skybird]

That is almost a reinterpretation of the quote. That quote however just means that a country that already fails because of small, everyday banalities, must fail even more because of infinitely more loudmouthed goals. Germany dreams of a future of hobbits on bicycles and without nuclear power, and China meanwhile is building the fastest bullet train in the world, building nuclear power plants, and in the third world coal power plants and oil and gas power plants are mushrooming around and "overcompensating for " the selfdenying German self-flagellation. We see that at EU level, too. Its plans and ideas - often thankfully - fail time and again. It does not become more realistic and more modest, no - it still adds difficulties and demands an even greater challenge and a lot more responsibilities. If you allow to prepare for such idiots, who already fail in the small, an even bigger stage, than their failure has far wider, costlier consequences - what is the result of this as an even bigger failure catastrophe ...?



Think smaller. Do not extend the reach of policymakers, but limit them. Its called "preventive damage control". Policymakers have no answers, and they are not the solution. They are part and root cause of many many of our problems. Why ? Because they have infinte amounts of counterfeit money, toy currency tokens that delay the bill we have to pay for them, and second reason: time. One could see their terms as careers as commons, and thinki of nthe problem here as the tragedy of the commons, a variation of it. Because it is claimed they take turns and rotate in and out (in fact they are almost impossible to get rid of, spend all their lives in their careers in politlics, and often cannot even be voted for or against: on EU lead levels, that is), time is a sparse commodity, and they want to to make - selfish - use of it to the best of their interests for thier careers and power hunger. They spend thta time in ever raising promises and ever raising expectations, even if these already are beyond the reaosnable and realistic. Cijmate poltlics is a perfetc exmaple. The ambitions in palce already are unreloasrtic now, no matter whether therte realisation is necessary or not - they won't be met, becasue it is not possible without totally crippeling the continent and igniting civil wars in a dozen places. And what happens? To win the popularity competition, these demands get raised more every year.

The world will not take Europe as an exmaple to follow, that simple it is. It already does take Europe as an exmaple of how not to do it. America, India, China, Indonesia, and all te other upclimbing biog economies in the third world - they all see now their time coming to reach for a seat at the table of kings. They all push their industries and economies. We have dumped the oil price becasue we produced less in the past 18 months in Europe. What happened? The refining capacities for crude oil climbed to an all time high and all the oil that went cheap because of of our reduced production, was bought up by these uprising economies who now could buy it cheaper, and so: more of it.

Thats the effects the EU does not have on its planning board. Or Germany. Just recently the German govenrment had to admitt that they planned with way too low electric power demand in the future, and that the trend for it seems to be at the reverse direction that was propagated: upwards, not downwards. And steeply so. Real experts tell that since many years! BTW, the European powergrid just weeks ago has suffered another almost-desaster, the second this year already, again the shockwave originated in Spain. Our beloved state media did not mention it. And this altough we were just short off a blackout that could have hit huge parts of the continent and could have lasted for DAYS. And then the consequences from that. The European powergrid doies not gain stabulity. It desintegrates, and at accelerating and frightening pace. Since years.



The german authorities recently showed unable to even just react to the clear warnings for the weather hammer that was falling. But they claim to have the perfect plan for climate saving? Decades into the future, and they foresee it in all its imoplicitons and inner chaotic self-dynamcis? They know how to manage it so that the world stands in awe, but they cannot even complete a small airport within 15 years? Cannot have realistic projections for near future energy demands?

Traumtänzer. And nobody wants to watch their show.



Großmäulige Trottel.

[Rockstar]

Germany is the biggest consumer of energy in the E.U. Seems to me it relies too much on imports to satisfy its energy needs as it is. I can understand maybe ridding yourself of coal fired energy plants. But nuclear power too? Your own national security is just as important as cleaning up the environment. There is absolutely nothing wrong with maintaining some degree of energy independence otherwise your suppliers may walk all over you and cause undue hardships for your own citizens.

[Skybird]

You are right. You must not tell me. But you see, in Germany, wellmeaning counts heavier than competence, and Wellmeaning made in Germany is a world standard the world envies us for. At leats that's what we think.

The Greens acitvely push for freeing us of our gas powerppoants, too. And especially those with cold&black dark start capcity, the few we have still left. ike CVortez burnt hgis ships on the beach they think they can enforce the better energy future if they destroy all alternatives to wind and solar. Just that wind and solar are highly instabile, and already now do not suffice.

All my "prepping" is done not due to war, meteor or pandemic concerns of mine, but - a continental blackout. If that happens, the disruptions will last FOR WEEKS to come. I can hold out from now to the next moment, without further notice, for 10-12 weeks. I am not convicned that that would be enough, especially. And recent floods over here showed a failure of communications of emergency agency's radios and civila communicaiton systems like VoIP telephone and cellphones (we have destroyed most of our sirens and cable-based telephopne grids), that you can only feel frightened.

Also, nowhere i Euriope and almpost nowehre in the world you pay as much for electric energy, than in Germany. The costs are hilarious, and the system is designed to have the costs growing the more renewable energy is getting produced on a day. Whjat? You said that make sno sense, it shoudk eb the other way around? You are right again, it should be, and at the energy marketz for nthe corprpate players, it is. But then comes the state-.commanded intergference by modifiers aimed at artificially pushing the costs for private household consumer the higher the more sun shiens and the stronger the winds blows.

No kidding, no exaggeration, no irony. Its really this insane over here. Its wnated madness and wanted destruction. Quite some dream of a deindustrialised Germany that then they could call like Tolkien's Shire.

Plus the insane yearly raise of energy costs due to the CO2 penalty schemes. It adds every year a punishing strike against priovate hpouseholds. Manyx peopel who applauded the idea still have not realyl udnerstood what they were applauding for. And many backbenchers in parliaments have not, too.

I can live with brown coal going out. Black coal as well. But oil? Gas...? Cold&black relaunch capacities of the powergrid...?

I think there is a strong causal link between these political goals, and the quality of German public school education. When students try to divide by zero, and do not know the difference between the political systems in West and East Germany anymore, and gender is being chosen by daily feeling and will, not decided by genetics, then nothing should surprise you anymore. Such a stupid bunch of people can be told everything, just anything, and they will think its a great idea and will applaude if somebody holds up a sign reading "now clap hands". Their future is never further away than the next summer holiday on Mallorca.

[Skybird]

Of Ebola, Anthrax and the Plague.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56821462

Candidates, your names are Ridiculousness, Insignificance, Infantility.

Unelectible, ineligible. All three, unelectible and ineligible. Their parties, unvotable as well, all there are. Legitimising any of these, means to make oneself guilty. It compares to conducting brain surgery on oneself.

[mapuc]

....No specific changes in German politics whoever take over after Merkel.

Markus

[Skybird]

I am not so certain. It could become ruinously costly for private households and house owners. The gate to an acceleration of creating a EU superstate could be pushed wider open than ever.

What will stay is the merciless trend for infantilisation and stupidifying of the plebs.

I have nothing but utmost contemtp for all this and all them. And ice-cold rage that grows with every year.

Chances are high for a coalition of SED, SPD and Greens. Leftier it cannot get. The SED has just silently deleted their demand for dissolving NATO from their planning paper for coalition negotiations, which has always been a main demand by the SPD to them. A clear signal where the SED's intention is aiming at. Governing.

Currently with the actual polls, a small, tight mathematical majority also exists for - a continuation of the Merkel horror, a great coalition under leadership by the SPD.

No matter how the elections solve up, the results will be a desaster. There is no scenario that could be preferred to any other. They all are worst case scenarios, every single one. And if against all expectations Laschet still wins, I predict Merkel will be still in office beyond New Years Eve. Just remember how bad it was last time. Almost one year.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Skybird

... I think there is a strong causal link between these political goals, and the quality of German public school education. When students try to divide by zero, and do not know the difference between the political systems in West and East Germany anymore, and gender is being chosen by daily feeling and will, not decided by genetics, then nothing should surprise you anymore. Such a stupid bunch of people can be told everything, just anything, and they will think its a great idea and will applaude if somebody holds up a sign reading "now clap hands". Their future is never further away than the next summer holiday on Mallorca.

Where do you draw a line between education and indoctrination? That would appear to be only in the eyes of the beholder.

[Skybird]

The CDU's nosedive maneuver with Laschet as the pilot pays off: the ground is finally in sight and is quickly approaching. For the first time in the history of the Federal Republic of Germany, ALL survey institutes in Germany have the CDU at well below 20%, and the SPD has hurried away from the CDU at all survey institutes. When it comes to personal preferences, things look even worse, Laschet is in real danger of only receiving single-digit approval values ​​at the end of his death loop. -

That the SPD will very likely be the winner, and with it Olaf Scholz, cannot be reassuring. In practice, the party cannot ignore the serious examination of a left-left-left alliance. And Scholz is still remembered as politically responsible for the biggest financial and banking scandal (CUM EX) of the German post-war history and for his endlessly uncomfortable trivializing babble as the ruler in Hamburg during the civil war-like unrest in some streets during the G20 summit. The man can do nothing, is far more left than he seems, the man will lead Germany even deeper into the EU debt union, but for some reason the future German pensioners love his endless avoidant behavior, his Teflon skin and his blasé arrogance, by means of which he even doesn't even answer direct questions or evades them, but simply ignores them when the answers don't suit him. He copies many superficial optical tricks from Merkel's behavior and shamelessly emulates her in this. The Germans' love for the familiar rewards him for this insolence. -

And the assault of the Greens into the Chancellery? It was not long before Annalena the incompetent and her manicured poodle Habeck, house-trained by the party's emancipation wing, exposed themselves to be the hollow cardboard displays that they really are. Personal mistakes, fudged résumés and impostures brought her green majesty very quickly back to the funny little format that she actually calls her own, intellectually. And the poodle? Gives the watered one, growls, but doesn't dare to let it be heard. Not even a poodle. A mini-poodle. But very docile. And just, well, house-trained, that's something too. -

One could throw up with so much insolence on the part of the parties to allow themselves these personnel and content-related impositions. -

Mother Angela has a fair amount of shared responsibility. Her catastrophic political mistakes as well as her brutal erosion of the CDU in order not to endanger her position of power have practically transformed the CDU into an empty torso, which is no longer capable of any personnel renewal: anyone who had even a scrap of meat on their bones that could have risen against her, was eaten by her, the bone gnawed off and thrown away. Heavens, how much I detest this FDJ-socialized functionary hag from the GDR. The last three years after a year of coalition strangulation (the next round will get worse, watch out ...) were a single debacle, especially the foreign ministry led by this titsy-tiny funny SPD-Fiffi actually emerged through particular bungling and ignorance. If reunification hadn't got in the way of her, she might have become the first female SED and State Council chairwoman in the GDR, who knows, she knows the ambition and the political self-image of how to make democracy appear where in truth there is a dictating of opinion and attitudes exactly (there were two surveys in germany this year that resulted in the finding that a majority of Germans think you can no longer frankly tell your real views and opinions withoutr risking diffamation and social sanctions, thats why many Germans, these surveys found, do not dare to speak out free anymore: mind you, a majority thinks so), and Germany garottoed it for 16 years. No merits, no gains, just an lame administration with simultaneous depletion of resources and maximization of German obligations for the shining beacon of the torch that shows us the way into the future: dear EU, here we come, may we in the future all be equally miserable in your light! Oh no, the EU goal was far too small for all these big egos, no, now we have the climate revolution. In the next few years, there will be a massive increase in lawsuits from active groups against large industrial groups that are still running the store; it has already begun. And these big players will not take part forever, but they will turn off the light and move away. -

What did the completely taken by surprise leftier-than-left chairwoman Saskja Esken say when she was accused of having fantasies about expropriation and maximum taxation dreams would lead to the fact that the bourgeoisie, toth who still have something to get plundered, would simply leave Germany and the planned robbery revoke? Right - she said nothing, just stared in amazement. This scenario does not appear to be envisaged. Maybe she does the same thing as the Taleban and simply forbids skilled workers to leave the country. -

One could also build a wall again.


(I typed this in German and let Google translate it, then corrected the worst mishaps it created.)
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While I write this, there is a public signature campaign in Berlin running, demanding the expropriation of all house owning companies. Its likely that they will reach the needed numbers. Policymakers then will be forced to use tricks and cheats to avoid turning it into real policy and law. Whether they want that, is something else - the Senate in Berlin is both extremly incompetent and a extreme left-left-left triple coalition. No other of the 16 federal states gets this massively misgoverned, than Berlin.

[Skybird]

[Skybird]

Nordstream 2 is completed, says Gazprom. The last piece has been put in, the two loose ends have been connected. Next comes the certification process by the German authorities. First deliveries are scheduled for Octobre.

[mapuc]

Hope the story in the Swedish novel Midwinter Darkness doesn't comes true

(Russia accuse Sweden for being behind sabotaging the Gas line and they believe the terrorist has their base on Gotland)

Markus

[Catfish]

I did not hear about sabotage?

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Catfish

I did not hear about sabotage?

No it's from a book by Lars Wilderäng. Who wrote two books about the invasion and the liberation of Gotland. First book had title Midwinter Darkness, second book midsummer dawn.

Back to real German politics.

Markus