UK Politics Thread

[Catfish]

Very good article from 3 years ago, so nobody say he didn't see it coming.

https://www.reddit.com/r/northernire...ric_gets_ugly/

No one will read it i know.

[Jimbuna]

Well I certainly read it Kai and readily admit it is a good article but there are and will always be two sides of opinion in any debate.

Both sides should try to meet somewhere in the middle and move on as equals in a transparent manner.

[Catfish]

This is quite right, but Johnson shows no understanding of his own brexit and what this means to Ireland. And the whole.. thing is a loss for all.


edit:
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...eality/607282/

The unreality has now arrived

[Jimbuna]

Put anything in a bra and panties and Boris will be a true 'expert'

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Very good article from 3 years ago, so nobody say he didn't see it coming.

https://www.reddit.com/r/northernire...ric_gets_ugly/

No one will read it i know.

Some of us read it.

Its an old news, however. And yes, it has been underrated. I insist, however: not by me.

However, while the problem is obvious and clear, and was back then and is today, this does not mean that a people, the Britons in this case, had no right to leave the EU. They had, and they did.

It illustrates further how absurd and fragile the constellations can become that politicians allow to materialise for any intention and purpose they see fit. And I do not mean the Brexit here, but the structrue of the political problem of the two Irelands.

Londown should have forseen this conflict with the EU over Ireland, it seems they underprioritized it.

Myself, I have recognized the EU's own vital political interest (that is independent from whether I agree with such interests of an opponent, i just see it from his eyes), I always have. Like I recognize the interests and the rights of the Brits. I refuse however to construct the case that because there is the Irish problem, the UK had no reason or even no right to leave the EU. Every membership that cannot be cancelled, is no membership but imprisonment, hostage-taking, slave-keeping.

Regarding the Irish problem, I only see one choice for action: have both sides colliding over it and see who the stronger is. Thats life, thats nature. Sometimes its the brain solving problems. Sometimes its the heart, and sometimes its fangs, claws and muscles. The alternative would be Northern Ireland splitting form the UK and reuniting with the RI. But how likely is that...? I think I waste no time with that.

Not all things in life have solutions. Sometimes we need to live with problems persisting. Life's not perfect. The many dyfunctional fragments in our DNA prove it. Yet, still we live.

[Jimbuna]

Not sure how truthful or accurate this is mind.

[Jimbuna]

EU engaged in ‘very serious escalation’ over UK financial services, says Bank of England governor

The Bank of England governor, Andrew Bailey, has accused the European Union of trying to poach business from the City of London in the wake of Brexit, labelling the bloc’s recent activity a “very serious escalation”.

Mr Bailey told the Treasury Select Committee on Wednesday the EU now seems more interested in taking euro-denominated derivatives clearing business out of London and into the EU than making sure the UK’s regulations are “equivalent” to the bloc’s for financial stability reasons.

“That seems to be where the debate is heading,” he told MPs.

“I’m not surprised by that. Brexit has been the stimulus to revise this debate.”

The governor said it looked like the EU was preparing to exert regulatory pressure on EU financial firms to shift their activity out of London and into the EU.

A document from a European Commission working group was reported by Reuters this week to show Europe’s largest banks are being asked justify why they should not clear derivatives in the EU.

“Frankly, it would be a serious escalation of the issue,” said Mr Bailey, and suggested such pressure would be of “dubious legality”.

“I have to say to you that would be highly controversial – and that would be something that we would have to, and want to, resist very firmly.”

Mr Bailey did not specify what form that resistance would take, saying it would be for ministers to decide.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...out&li=AAnZ9Ug

[Catfish]

^ After UK banks recently threatened to just close EU accounts this seems a bit unfair If i were a EU company with bank accounts in London i would get the hell out of there.

^^ The post above seems to be from the same producer/creator (Luân Đôn) as the "UK News" videos, which means Russia uses servers based in Vietnam and/or India. According to Google, that is.

OT here i have quite a lot of correspondence with Google and Apple lately, setting up Apps in both stores. To say it is a chore is not coming anywhere close . Both online now, after a year!

[Jimbuna]

I only give the article credence if the quotes attributed to the Governor are accurate.

[Moonlight]

This is what's been wrong in the UK for quite some time, If they don't know the answer to their question they should put some body armour on and take a walk out at night in a inner city and they will know soon enough, that's providing they survive the experience.
Do gooders who haven't a clue what's happening on the streets shouldn't be in the job they are in, drain the swamp.

COP STOP QUIZ Police watchdog orders forces to explain why black and ethnic minorities are subjected to more stop and searches
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/141674...-and-searches/

[Jimbuna]

Perhaps best if I don't elaborate further but the article title and content speaks volumes imho.

How EU launched spiteful war on our glorious snowdrops
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...out&li=AAnZ9Ug

[skidman]

Sorry, that article is nothing but self-righteous pathetic moaning. Our house, our rules. None of your business. Exactly what you voted for.

[Jimbuna]

Well my concern is simply that should this behaviour continue....what goes round comes round and both sides will become aggrieved.