US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Platapus]

I think we can all take great comfort now that we know that Trump is "the chosen one".

[mapuc]

I respect people supporting a President or a politician.

But...a person should never stand back in criticizing this elected person when needed.

Those of my friends who support him, are finding excuses on his behalf.

And that's not good.

Markus

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by August

Well, says you anyways.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I think we can all take great comfort now that we know that Trump is "the chosen one".

I've become numb to feeling embarrassed that poser is my countries leader. What a childish schmuck!

Hello world, please don't feed, rattle the cage, or try to talk to the primate in chief. It upsets the homo trumpiens and makes the cage hard to clean.

[eddie]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I've become numb to feeling embarrassed that poser is my countries leader. What a childish schmuck!

Hello world, please don't feed, rattle the cage, or try to talk to the primate in chief. It upsets the homo trumpiens and makes the cage hard to clean.

[eddie]

Originally Posted by Platapus

I think we can all take great comfort now that we know that Trump is "the chosen one".

He's the King of Israel too,lol

[Jimbuna]

I find the whole scenario quite embarrassing.

[eddie]

Pretty much Jim, and really sad to to see him acting this way, but what else could you expect from him!

[August]

Originally Posted by Dowly

No fake Miami vice cop speaks for me!

[vienna]

Originally Posted by August

No fake Miami vice cop speaks for me!

No, just a fake reality TV faux-billionaire with questionable intelligence, woeful lack of knowledge, suspect mental stability, flawed ethics and morals...


...that's who speaks for you...









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[u crank]

Ok I get it. The Orange man is bad. A terrible person. He says things that make people cry. He tells lies and makes up stuff. Some people think that's awful. I really don't care about that stuff so much. It's the really bad stuff that he does that I don't like. The 'flawed ethical and moral' stuff. You know like say ... as President of the USA using government agencies like the IRS, FBI, CIA and the DOJ to go after his political enemies. And using some of those same agencies to help his preferred candidate in a Presidential election while trying to hinder the opposition's candidate. That's what I really don't like about Trump.


Oh wait, I'm old and my memory is not so good. No ... that wasn't Trump was it? It was some other guy. What was his name?

Help me out.

Anybody?

[vienna]

I'd say it sounds a lot like Trump and will be his probable 2020 election 'strategy' when he fully realizes he's royally screwed as far as being reelected...

What I'd really like to see is someone actually try to defend Trump and his actions/criminalities/ without pulling up the same old tired, lame "What abut Obama/Clinton, etc. ..." strawmen. You know, like, convince us why the US voters should put the disaster that is Trump back in office for another four years, while explaining why we should vote for a liar and conman supreme...

Me, I'm not worried about Obama or Clinton or anyone else who is not actually in power or delegated power; they are irrelevant to the 2020 Election; the only ones relevant are Trump and whoever beats him in 2020...

As far as abusive use of power and co-opting government agencies go, I don't recall any other President, of either party, who made blind loyalty to the President as a prime condition of appointment to the Cabinet, agencies, or any other leadership role in their administrations. The very fact well over 60 Trump appointees have been fired or resigned after daring to oppose or contradicting Trump is either a testament to the very poor selection skills odf Trump or a testament to the core corruption by Trump of a once respected office....

So, go ahead, without finger pointing at people who really don't matter, tell us why a liar, idiot, buffoon, fraud, crook and "Yuuuuge" national embarrassment is worthy of our votes....

...or is your only defense "But, they did it, too!"...?...


...because if that's the case and you ar, indeed, morally and ethically outraged by the strawmen you raise up to bolster Trump, then why are you merely saying criminality should continue and not be stopped?...






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[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by u crank

Ok I get it. The Orange man is bad. A terrible person. He says things that make people cry. He tells lies and makes up stuff. Some people think that's awful. I really don't care about that stuff so much. It's the really bad stuff that he does that I don't like. The 'flawed ethical and moral' stuff. You know like say ... as President of the USA using government agencies like the IRS, FBI, CIA and the DOJ to go after his political enemies. And using some of those same agencies to help his preferred candidate in a Presidential election while trying to hinder the opposition's candidate. That's what I really don't like about Trump.


Oh wait, I'm old and my memory is not so good. No ... that wasn't Trump was it? It was some other guy. What was his name?

Help me out.

Anybody?

Thank you u crank I was afraid it was down to just August and me to defend President Trump ... I don't really defend him, because he does make some strange moves ... Almost everyday the news finds something to harp on that Trump said wrong.

My line of thinking is that no one yet is a better choice at least as far as the democrats have produced. Perhaps another Republican can step forward to challenge Trump in the next 14 months and two weeks before the November 2020 National Election, but he or she must be a sleeper.

Make no mistake in thinking that the majority of voters want to see this country to down the socialists road of open borders of college debts forgiven or free medical that is going to cost someone. See through the democrats courting the votes of the past, present and future immigrants.

Laugh at Trump all you want no one better to lead our country is stepping forward.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by vienna

I'd say it sounds a lot like Trump and will be his probable 2020 election 'strategy' when he fully realizes he's royally screwed as far as being reelected...

Hmm? There's some projection.

What I'd really like to see is someone actually try to defend Trump and his actions/criminalities/ without pulling up the same old tired, lame "What abut Obama/Clinton, etc. ..." strawmen.

I for one am not trying to defend Trump. Pointing out the illegal activities of one administration is not a defence of another. Then again I guess you and I have different view points on what is 'flawed ethics and morals'. The very same people who crow about one person's 'morals and ethics' are quite willing to overlook someone else's when it is politically expedient.

Me, I'm not worried about Obama or Clinton or anyone else who is not actually in power or delegated power;

You may not be but that doesn't mean it isn't relative or important. It certainly doesn't make it any less 'ethical or moral' just because these people are no longer in power. That's not the standard by which these things are judged. Or should we just let that kind of thing slide. Will you give Trump that same leeway when he is out of power? Some people have no intention of doing so.

So, go ahead, without finger pointing at people who really don't matter,..

And there's the flaw in your argument. They do matter. It does matter. The way to prevent such a thing from happening again is to say that it does matter and to expose it. Some people care, some don't.

..tell us why a liar, idiot, buffoon, fraud, crook and "Yuuuuge" national embarrassment is worthy of our votes....

I don't think he's looking for your vote man.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by vienna

I'd say it sounds a lot like Trump and will be his probable 2020 election 'strategy' when he fully realizes he's royally screwed as far as being reelected...

What I'd really like to see is someone actually try to defend Trump and his actions/criminalities/ without pulling up the same old tired, lame "What abut Obama/Clinton, etc. ..." strawmen. You know, like, convince us why the US voters should put the disaster that is Trump back in office for another four years, while explaining why we should vote for a liar and conman supreme...

Me, I'm not worried about Obama or Clinton or anyone else who is not actually in power or delegated power; they are irrelevant to the 2020 Election; the only ones relevant are Trump and whoever beats him in 2020...

As far as abusive use of power and co-opting government agencies go, I don't recall any other President, of either party, who made blind loyalty to the President as a prime condition of appointment to the Cabinet, agencies, or any other leadership role in their administrations. The very fact well over 60 Trump appointees have been fired or resigned after daring to oppose or contradicting Trump is either a testament to the very poor selection skills odf Trump or a testament to the core corruption by Trump of a once respected office....

So, go ahead, without finger pointing at people who really don't matter, tell us why a liar, idiot, buffoon, fraud, crook and "Yuuuuge" national embarrassment is worthy of our votes....

...or is your only defense "But, they did it, too!"...?...


...because if that's the case and you ar, indeed, morally and ethically outraged by the strawmen you raise up to bolster Trump, then why are you merely saying criminality should continue and not be stopped?...
<O>

Are you saying criminality can be stopped by not voting for Trump? I think we're all well aware that historically politicians from all backgrounds and party affiliation have be involved in nefarious misdeeds. IMHO a majority of voters and outside observers are politically ignorant buffoons and idiots which in turn beget politically ignorant, buffoons and idiots in office. Voters and outside observers do not arm themselves with informed ideas and opinions on how to govern a nation. Rather they rely on gender, skin color, emotional rants on social media and watch the news looking for the best dressed and most popular person for president. Remember that Hope and Change slogan? Many people became so enamored by it and got all emotional and teary eyed. But not once did anyone think to ask just what in hell exactly did that mean? lol.

Obviously you aren't voting for Trump. So I ask, who do you think will give us the truth and leadership, instead of pandering to special interests, cheap slogans, sound bites and acting lessons? Go ahead name just one and I'd wager anyone here would be able make several similar comparisons of them to Trump. The real argument is to what degree of criminality, idiocy, buffoonery, fraud and lying is acceptable to you and if they look and act presidential.