SH5 TDC Tutorial Threads - Page 3

kylania · 03-22-10, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans Schultz

these tutorials have been helpful..but I still cant sink a thing with torps

my shots keep falling astern. I think I'm not doing the AOB correctly... it makes me miss the old auto solutions.

Try the Fast90 approach, it works great!

Here's a wonderful post, it's based on SH4, but works for SH5. Just ignore the screenshots and PK stuff (which you don't use anyway) scroll down to the yellow part that starts "Edit: some have asked for a drier, step by step update." and read from there. Let us know if you're more successful this way

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...6&postcount=67

AS · 03-29-10, 12:50 PM

Just one quick question: when I set target range, the value remains the same, even though the target closes in. Is this a bug? While AOB is correctly calculated and updated automatically, range isn´t.

My question: So should I set range to the actual value, or to the value that will be the correct one at the point when I fire the torp?

Thanks for answers,

Cheers, AS

kylania · 03-29-10, 01:20 PM

AS, if you're doing the "Fast90" method range won't matter really, just set it at the point where it'll hit. Since you're firing at a point rather than at the ship, kinda.

ddrgn · 04-07-10, 11:35 AM

My addition to the video tutorials can be found here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=167045

ReallyDedPoet · 04-08-10, 09:40 PM

Nice thread, thanks

kylania · 04-16-10, 12:43 AM

I really wish I could read better German: http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/...5511009548/p/1

That's the most fantastic tutorial PDF I've ever seen! It's beyond what an official guide should have been.

Here's the direct link for it, but again it's only in German: http://www.filefront.com/15947687/He...rpedoangriff_1

badaboom · 04-19-10, 02:21 PM

Great help,Thank You!!!

kylania · 05-15-10, 01:20 AM

Manual targeting is way more fun than automatic, and with a TDC mod it's crazy easy to set up an attack.

I use a variation on the "Fast 90" approach. Here's how I setup my attack:

Step 0 is getting ahead and to the side of a convoy.
Step 1 is checking speed. Mark the bow of a ship and start your stopwatch. After 3 minutes and 15 seconds mark where the bow is again. Measure between those two points. That range divided by 100 = speed in kts.
Step 2 is to use those marks to plot it's course out past in front of you. I repeated this for the first three ranks of the convoy since I was going to attack all three.
Step 3 is getting into place. I'll move forward till I'm 800m away from the end column. I measured this in Step 4 which should have been Step 3! heh
Step 4 is where I measured my 800m attack range from the edge of the convoy.
Step 5 I draw out a 2800m range so I can tell how far my electric torpedoes can reach. Not quite to the 4th column.
Step 6 is turning my scope to the right, about 10 degrees, so the Gyroangle reads 000.

I'll fire as the ships in the first three columns pass my scope's wire. Due to the angle I've setup all my torpedoes will travel straight ahead, all three will hit at 90 degree angles and all three will hit at the same time.

Here's my TDC settings:

Some might say this is "cheating" since I have map contacts on, and sure it kind of is. It's still more fun than connect the dots! It also prepares you for No Map Contacts since you're doing all the same steps.

CaptainMattJ. · 08-18-10, 03:04 PM

its not so much getting the data, i actually found it harder to manually input it in the dials. at least with darkwraiths UI mod. probably should turn off dials

Zedi · 09-27-10, 10:41 AM

I "stick" this here, just in case I loose my bookmark again :/
[TEC]The four bearings method

New and improved version

downunder · 12-04-10, 08:15 PM

So there is no Auto firing control like sh3 with the green arrow, is that correct? only manual targeting. Mmmmm that why i spent half a day chasing a convoy only to have every torp miss.

homsikpanda · 01-03-11, 12:43 PM

stupid question but what IS the TDC? i turn it on/off (rather tell my watch to turn it on/off ) but does nothing? =/

TheDarkWraith · 01-03-11, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homsikpanda

stupid question but what IS the TDC? i turn it on/off (rather tell my watch to turn it on/off ) but does nothing? =/

Torpedo Data Computer. If you're using a UIs mod you'll have TDC dials that you can set the data into.

homsikpanda · 01-04-11, 01:51 PM

OOOHHHH!!!!!!! @.@ ok.... i unno, i like eyeballing it, =D
connect the dots is fun

Dissaray · 01-16-11, 08:58 PM

Not sure if this is the right place for this but it seems close enuf.

Could anyone post a tutorial on how to intercept a target? Like in the radio contact report where they tell you where the target is, what direction it is headed and at what speed. I used to know a method for doing that but can't quite seem to remember all of it; it involved cercles and angle lines and was real quick and accurate.

03-29-10, 12:50 PM	#32
AS 中国水兵 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	Just one quick question: when I set target range, the value remains the same, even though the target closes in. Is this a bug? While AOB is correctly calculated and updated automatically, range isn´t. My question: So should I set range to the actual value, or to the value that will be the correct one at the point when I fire the torp? Thanks for answers, Cheers, AS __________________ Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. (Oscar Wilde)

03-29-10, 01:20 PM	#33
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	AS, if you're doing the "Fast90" method range won't matter really, just set it at the point where it'll hit. Since you're firing at a point rather than at the ship, kinda. __________________

04-07-10, 11:35 AM	#34
ddrgn Korvettenkapitän Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 918 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 30	My addition to the video tutorials can be found here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=167045 __________________ ddrgn mods: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=217261

04-08-10, 09:40 PM	#35
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The one and only East Coast Posts: 10,775 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Nice thread, thanks __________________ Back in the Day

04-16-10, 12:43 AM	#36
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	I really wish I could read better German: http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/...5511009548/p/1 That's the most fantastic tutorial PDF I've ever seen! It's beyond what an official guide should have been. Here's the direct link for it, but again it's only in German: http://www.filefront.com/15947687/He...rpedoangriff_1 __________________

04-19-10, 02:21 PM	#37
badaboom Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 359 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Great help,Thank You!!! __________________

05-15-10, 01:20 AM	#38
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	Manual targeting is way more fun than automatic, and with a TDC mod it's crazy easy to set up an attack. I use a variation on the "Fast 90" approach. Here's how I setup my attack: Step 0 is getting ahead and to the side of a convoy. Step 1 is checking speed. Mark the bow of a ship and start your stopwatch. After 3 minutes and 15 seconds mark where the bow is again. Measure between those two points. That range divided by 100 = speed in kts. Step 2 is to use those marks to plot it's course out past in front of you. I repeated this for the first three ranks of the convoy since I was going to attack all three. Step 3 is getting into place. I'll move forward till I'm 800m away from the end column. I measured this in Step 4 which should have been Step 3! heh Step 4 is where I measured my 800m attack range from the edge of the convoy. Step 5 I draw out a 2800m range so I can tell how far my electric torpedoes can reach. Not quite to the 4th column. Step 6 is turning my scope to the right, about 10 degrees, so the Gyroangle reads 000. I'll fire as the ships in the first three columns pass my scope's wire. Due to the angle I've setup all my torpedoes will travel straight ahead, all three will hit at 90 degree angles and all three will hit at the same time. Here's my TDC settings: Some might say this is "cheating" since I have map contacts on, and sure it kind of is. It's still more fun than connect the dots! It also prepares you for No Map Contacts since you're doing all the same steps. __________________

08-18-10, 03:04 PM	#39
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	its not so much getting the data, i actually found it harder to manually input it in the dials. at least with darkwraiths UI mod. probably should turn off dials __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

09-27-10, 10:41 AM	#40
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	I "stick" this here, just in case I loose my bookmark again :/ [TEC]The four bearings method New and improved version Last edited by Zedi; 01-17-11 at 11:50 AM.

12-04-10, 08:15 PM	#41
downunder Electrician's Mate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Victoria. Australia Posts: 135 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	So there is no Auto firing control like sh3 with the green arrow, is that correct? only manual targeting. Mmmmm that why i spent half a day chasing a convoy only to have every torp miss. __________________ May your hatches be tight, and your smokes dry.

01-03-11, 12:43 PM	#42
homsikpanda Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 112 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	stupid question but what IS the TDC? i turn it on/off (rather tell my watch to turn it on/off ) but does nothing? =/

01-04-11, 01:51 PM	#44
homsikpanda Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 112 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	OOOHHHH!!!!!!! @.@ ok.... i unno, i like eyeballing it, =D connect the dots is fun

01-16-11, 08:58 PM	#45
Dissaray 中国水兵 Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 280 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Not sure if this is the right place for this but it seems close enuf. Could anyone post a tutorial on how to intercept a target? Like in the radio contact report where they tell you where the target is, what direction it is headed and at what speed. I used to know a method for doing that but can't quite seem to remember all of it; it involved cercles and angle lines and was real quick and accurate.