[REL] Air Torpedos/Torpedo Bombers revisited and working!

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

My question is focus about it. Both model the same? I know fido works with nygm. So in your opinion this mod added something to that or is worthless for stebler and nygm?

Depends what one prefers. They both model a Fido well, with slightly different approaches. I prefer Stiebler's for it's simplicity. I've never tried Rubini's as I'm not interested in eye candy for a Fido attack but others like it for that reason.
Since I've never tried it, I do not know how stable Rubini's mod is. Maybe someone else can answer that.

[Aquelarrefox]

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

Depends what one prefers. They both model a Fido well, with slightly different approaches. I prefer Stiebler's for it's simplicity. I've never tried Rubini's as I'm not interested in eye candy for a Fido attack but others like it for that reason.
Since I've never tried it, I do not know how stable Rubini's mod is. Maybe someone else can answer that.

Yes, in deed the installation of fido mod is bit complex. Steibler method seems fine, I believe only thing steibler mod would need is torpedo running visually. I don't beeline you can see the torpedo from the bridge.
But something come to me, steibler didn't mentioned something like a roster link, so is possible that a British or a catalina pyb plane drop the torpedo?

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

Yes, in deed the installation of fido mod is bit complex. Steibler method seems fine, I believe only thing steibler mod would need is torpedo running visually. I don't beeline you can see the torpedo from the bridge.
But something come to me, steibler didn't mentioned something like a roster link, so is possible that a British or a catalina pyb plane drop the torpedo?

A real U-boat Captain would have never seen them from the bridge; they were only dropped after the boat had submerged.
The Avenger and Liberator dropped them historically. I believe (without looking) only the Avenger does in NYGM, and that is only the Avenger version supplied with his patch.
If I recall, originally many more planes could drop it because of the way the patch worked but I believe he then changed things so only the Avenger does, but I'd have to look to be sure.

[Aquelarrefox]

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

A real U-boat Captain would have never seen them from the bridge; they were only dropped after the boat had submerged.
The Avenger and Liberator dropped them historically. I believe (without looking) only the Avenger does in NYGM, and that is only the Avenger version supplied with his patch.
If I recall, originally many more planes could drop it because of the way the patch worked but I believe he then changed things so only the Avenger does, but I'd have to look to be sure.

in nygm averger file

;Aerial Torpedo loadout definition, Fido
[Equipment 10]
NodeName=T01
LinkName=AirTorpedo
Loadout=FIDO

[Equipment 11]
NodeName=B01
LinkName=NULL
Loadout=FIDO

[Equipment 12]
NodeName=B02
LinkName=NULL
Loadout=FIDO

mybe could be loaded in liberator too. if you do plase paste the addition, jeje

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

in nygm averger file



mybe could be loaded in liberator too. if you do plase paste the addition, jeje

I bet you're right.

[Aquelarrefox]

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

I bet you're right.

Scort cv as us bougue and casablanca had avengers (it other torpedo bomber in their air groups for Atlantic patrols.?

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

Scort cv as us bougue and casablanca had avengers (it other torpedo bomber in their air groups for Atlantic patrols.?

The Avenger was the only one as far as I know but I've not researched it.

[Anvar1061]

Why not combine both modes using .RND of one and FIDO of the other of the mods.
ATB_Avenger_TB.eqp

 

;equipment cfg file, loadout definitions are in the platform cfg file

;Basic Loadout values FIdo&radar after march 1943
[Equipment 1]
NodeName=T01
LinkName=AiR_torp_rack
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19430228

[Equipment 2]
NodeName=T01
LinkName=AiR_torp_rack_FIDO
StartDate=19430301
EndDate=19451231

[Equipment 3]
NodeName=B01
LinkName=BombDummyy
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19430228

[Equipment 4]
NodeName=B01
LinkName=BombDummy_FIDO
StartDate=19430301
EndDate=19451231

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Anvar1061

Why not combine both modes using .RND of one and FIDO of the other of the mods.
ATB_Avenger_TB.eqp

 

;equipment cfg file, loadout definitions are in the platform cfg file

;Basic Loadout values FIdo&radar after march 1943
[Equipment 1]
NodeName=T01
LinkName=AiR_torp_rack
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19430228

[Equipment 2]
NodeName=T01
LinkName=AiR_torp_rack_FIDO
StartDate=19430301
EndDate=19451231

[Equipment 3]
NodeName=B01
LinkName=BombDummyy
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19430228

[Equipment 4]
NodeName=B01
LinkName=BombDummy_FIDO
StartDate=19430301
EndDate=19451231

Give it a try. May have to do some roster work too, not sure. But as said, I believe they tried to combine them and it didn't work for some reason(s).

[Aquelarrefox]

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

Give it a try. May have to do some roster work too, not sure. But as said, I believe they tried to combine them and it didn't work for some reason(s).

adding fido to equipment of avenger with im not sure a libre file needed to run fido (im not sure if it need one but need a check) could be enought, getting in liberator sounds easy but in game you have like 20 times the avenger entries, so should be many many fido in water and this is a bit concerning, balance that is a bit complex, for liberator shoud be fine add another plane with his own entries and equip. you could have a port bomber with fido... if scr uses in ports bombs. thats a balance conserning to by focus, its like mad catalina, you couldnt fill airbases with madcatalinas, it makes a mess. i dont know how works adding equipments (triplicate actual load entries,) also could reduce the amount of palnes with fido. This is interesting feature!

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Aquelarrefox

adding fido to equipment of avenger with im not sure a libre file needed to run fido (im not sure if it need one but need a check) could be enought, getting in liberator sounds easy but in game you have like 20 times the avenger entries, so should be many many fido in water and this is a bit concerning, balance that is a bit complex, for liberator shoud be fine add another plane with his own entries and equip. you could have a port bomber with fido... if scr uses in ports bombs. thats a balance conserning to by focus, its like mad catalina, you couldnt fill airbases with madcatalinas, it makes a mess. i dont know how works adding equipments (triplicate actual load entries,) also could reduce the amount of palnes with fido. This is interesting feature!

Yes, I bet it's not an easy thing to do if it can even be done.

[Anvar1061]

I want to remind you that ATB_Avenger_TB is located only in America.

[Aquelarrefox]

Originally Posted by Anvar1061

I want to remind you that ATB_Avenger_TB is located only in America.

We are talking of make a liberator load for fido, liberator is for many countries and many air bases

[Anvar1061]

I don't think Americans shared technology.
Consolidated B-24 Liberator & PBY Catalina armed and had successful attacks of the German U-boat.
https://uboat.net/allies/technical/fido.htm

[Aquelarrefox]

Un the text they that Canada and uk used it and by the number it was like the half of times.
For example there's a liberator fur naval pair in us roster in gwx could be loaded.
Add catalina load if is likely hysterical will break the game, represent big number of planes encounters, balance it should be a nightmare. Could help if the mod had a chance of fail at launch but I'm sure there's no, for both. Setting catalina fido with every time is loaded is a sure torpedo in the water will be annoying me.