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Task Force · 03-31-10, 08:44 PM

So... any news on the 300s, I still think they will be good... (I hope they are alot better than the 400s)

thehiredgun · 03-31-10, 09:41 PM

anyone know where I can find the d/l for direct x 11?

Feuer Frei! · 04-01-10, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thehiredgun

anyone know where I can find the d/l for direct x 11?

http://www.microsoft.com/games/en-US...s/directx.aspx

This should get you going.

CaptainHaplo · 04-01-10, 09:21 PM

You have to be running windows 7 to use DX 11 - you can't download it - its built into the OS.

Vista uses DX10, but there is no update to DX 11 currently downloadable via ms search.

Windows XP is limitied to 9c.

MS only allows downloading of 9c or below. 10 and 11 are not "downloadable" installers.

thehiredgun · 04-01-10, 10:56 PM

I have windows xp professionsl & it runs direct x 10 too

CaptainHaplo · 04-03-10, 11:02 AM

You must be running the Alky project or KM stuff then. Microsoft's official position is that XP only goes up to 9c. The items above are unofficial ports of DX10 to XP. Nothing wrong with that - in fact I applaud those groups for doing it! Just know that its not "official" so if something screws up, MegaShaft - uhm - Microsoft isnt going to support anything. Like they would anyway?

When cash allows - move to windows 7.

Games that use DX10 can still run on XP only using DX9 - DX10 games are all "backward compatible" in those cases - if 9 is there they run fine - if 10 is there you get the extra bells and whistles that 10 brings to the table.

thehiredgun · 04-03-10, 11:29 AM

What is the difference between windows XP & windows 7. Hopefully not like Vista.

Feuer Frei! · 04-03-10, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thehiredgun

What is the difference between windows XP & windows 7. Hopefully not like Vista.

Lots, and it outshines Vista in every department. (Understatement)
In fact, Win 7 is in my opinion a master stroke by Microsoft.
It's a smooth, stable O S, and very very user-friendly.

Edit:
let's not hijack the thread though

CaptainHaplo · 04-03-10, 11:48 AM

XP support for all non-security issues ended in 2009 unless you have a contract with them. Security patches will still occur till 2014. You are hardware limited long term, as newer hardware will gradually not write drivers for XP, though that will take a few years yet.

To answer you - windows 7 is what Vista SHOULD have been. Its stable, user friendly and simply works. Its fast, drivers are readily available, etc. Honestly, the GUI changes are what most users are going to notice. There are some major "under the hood" changes, particularly to the networking side of the house, but those are positives. Some of the little tweaks added to the GUI are things users love - like rotating your desktop background with various pictures if you want. The speed is great (It boots MUCH faster than XP) - memory management is solid. Overall, M$ really did a great job with this one for once.

The ONLY drawback I can list is that some very old games may give you problems. Games like Imperium Galactica II simply need to be patched (or run in a slightly lower res) to make work, while a rare few will refuse to install. The only 2 I have had that issue with are the first two Brothers in Arms games - and those are known issues with the installer that the maker refused to fix. Truly old games like Shogun Total War struggle if you use a widescreen monitor - but that isn't OS related. Super old games - DOS based stuff - if your into that - still works great because DosBox runs fine on Windows 7. Out of the many games I have had - only the two BIA games have I been totally unable to make work. That says something.

For users who have actually USED windows 7 - you will rarely find complaints. I hated vista - even once it matured into something resembling a working OS - but 7 is the way to go!

thehiredgun · 04-03-10, 05:45 PM

Thanks for all the information

03-31-10, 08:44 PM	#46
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	So... any news on the 300s, I still think they will be good... (I hope they are alot better than the 400s) __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

03-31-10, 09:41 PM	#47
thehiredgun Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 581 Downloads: 517 Uploads: 0	direct x 11 anyone know where I can find the d/l for direct x 11?

04-01-10, 09:21 PM	#49
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	You have to be running windows 7 to use DX 11 - you can't download it - its built into the OS. Vista uses DX10, but there is no update to DX 11 currently downloadable via ms search. Windows XP is limitied to 9c. MS only allows downloading of 9c or below. 10 and 11 are not "downloadable" installers. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

04-03-10, 11:02 AM	#51
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	You must be running the Alky project or KM stuff then. Microsoft's official position is that XP only goes up to 9c. The items above are unofficial ports of DX10 to XP. Nothing wrong with that - in fact I applaud those groups for doing it! Just know that its not "official" so if something screws up, MegaShaft - uhm - Microsoft isnt going to support anything. Like they would anyway? When cash allows - move to windows 7. Games that use DX10 can still run on XP only using DX9 - DX10 games are all "backward compatible" in those cases - if 9 is there they run fine - if 10 is there you get the extra bells and whistles that 10 brings to the table. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

04-03-10, 11:48 AM	#54
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	XP support for all non-security issues ended in 2009 unless you have a contract with them. Security patches will still occur till 2014. You are hardware limited long term, as newer hardware will gradually not write drivers for XP, though that will take a few years yet. To answer you - windows 7 is what Vista SHOULD have been. Its stable, user friendly and simply works. Its fast, drivers are readily available, etc. Honestly, the GUI changes are what most users are going to notice. There are some major "under the hood" changes, particularly to the networking side of the house, but those are positives. Some of the little tweaks added to the GUI are things users love - like rotating your desktop background with various pictures if you want. The speed is great (It boots MUCH faster than XP) - memory management is solid. Overall, M$ really did a great job with this one for once. The ONLY drawback I can list is that some very old games may give you problems. Games like Imperium Galactica II simply need to be patched (or run in a slightly lower res) to make work, while a rare few will refuse to install. The only 2 I have had that issue with are the first two Brothers in Arms games - and those are known issues with the installer that the maker refused to fix. Truly old games like Shogun Total War struggle if you use a widescreen monitor - but that isn't OS related. Super old games - DOS based stuff - if your into that - still works great because DosBox runs fine on Windows 7. Out of the many games I have had - only the two BIA games have I been totally unable to make work. That says something. For users who have actually USED windows 7 - you will rarely find complaints. I hated vista - even once it matured into something resembling a working OS - but 7 is the way to go! __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

04-01-10, 10:56 PM	#50
thehiredgun Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 581 Downloads: 517 Uploads: 0	I have windows xp professionsl & it runs direct x 10 too

04-03-10, 11:29 AM	#52
thehiredgun Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 581 Downloads: 517 Uploads: 0	What is the difference between windows XP & windows 7. Hopefully not like Vista.

04-03-10, 05:45 PM	#55
thehiredgun Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 581 Downloads: 517 Uploads: 0	Thanks for all the information