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Zatoichi · 03-23-07, 07:24 AM

Here's a trick I do to help performance when I play a game that's a little intense for my system:
Windows XP:
Start>Run> MSCONFIG
Pick Selective Startup and uncheck:
Process SYSTEM.INI File
Process WIN.INI File
Load Startup Items
(LEAVE load System Services checked please.)
Switch to the Services Tab and mark the box that says:
Hide All Microsoft Services
Click Disable All
(Note: this will attempt to stop all running services, I disconnect my network cable so no Internet access. Not a good solution for MultiPlayer, but OK for Single.)
Click OK and the system will ask you to restart, Yes do restart. The computer will restart without all the other "Stuff" just what is needed to make your computer function, and the game should smooth out a bit for you.
After the reboot you'll see a message that you're running in Maintenance mode or something to that effect; OK it and close the MSCONFIG menu without changing anything: enjoy SH4/SH3 etc.

Undo: Run MSCONFIG again as above, and select Normal Startup - load all device drivers and services. Reboot and you're back to "normal".

Hope this eases some of the pain, Works great for my setup, was a MUST for Oblivion with all the mods.

Ichi...

Doomgiver · 03-23-07, 07:39 AM

the error message is that the computer needs to close the game

it has send error message and don't send at the bottom

fastfed · 03-23-07, 08:36 AM

I cannot remember what it is, but when I tried to install it, it just comes up with an error and gives me 3 options, details,report and ok..

I tried rebooting and stuff, but its still not working, I even installed it on a Cd, and put the file in the actual folder.. It is saying something about a .dll file, and on the bottom of details something about service pack 2..

Anyone have and idea??

OneTinSoldier · 03-23-07, 08:54 AM

Well, I can't help much partly because I don't have the game yet... or, who knows, maybe I will be able to help.

First, are you running WinXP and do you have SP2 installed for WinXP? If so, have you installed any mods at all?

Are you against completely uninstalling the game, deleting the SH4 Programs folder and the one for it in 'My Documents'(in case they don't get deleted for some reason when uninstalling, check and make sure!), reinstalling the game from scratch, and then trying to patch it?

fastfed · 03-23-07, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneTinSoldier

Well, I can't help much partly because I don't have the game yet... or, who knows, maybe I will be able to help.

First, are you running WinXP and do you have SP2 installed for WinXP? If so, have you installed any mods at all?

Are you against completely uninstalling the game, deleting the SH4 Programs folder and the one for it in 'My Documents'(in case they don't get deleted for some reason when uninstalling, check and make sure!), reinstalling the game from scratch, and then trying to patch it?

I rather not reinstall the entire game UNLESS I HAVE TO, It took along time to install..

mountainmanUK · 03-23-07, 09:01 AM

I'm still awaiting my copy dropping through the letterbox (Amazon say either today or tomorrow!)...but just a thought.....

Maybe your Antivirus prog is somehow interrupting the Patch installation?
Have you tried closing down all your running "background" progs before attempting to patch?

Hope this helps!

rigidkitchen · 03-23-07, 09:05 AM

well i reformatted my windows partition and i'll go from there.

things were acting funny to begin with! any suggestions though?

rigidkitchen · 03-23-07, 09:10 AM

When I click on the shortcut the game acts like it's loading and then stops acting like it's loading... I checked in the task manager and it says that it's still running!!! sh4.exe @ 99% cpu load but no window or indication that it's running otherwise

I tried the .exe but again, same thing (although the securom thing came and went)

Really weird! Someone have any suggestions?

Seeadler · 03-23-07, 09:48 AM

Did you installed tools from this side?
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...utilities.mspx

particularly ProcessExplorer, a handy tool for sys admins produce with SecuROM copyprotection this error. At game start with original disk in drive the SecuRom error (5024) dialog popped up

see also
http://forum.sysinternals.com/forum_...TID=10337&PN=1

OneTinSoldier · 03-23-07, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfed

I rather not reinstall the entire game UNLESS I HAVE TO, It took along time to install..

Yep, I can understand that. It might be your best bet though. Maybe someone can come up with a way to solve this for you without you having to uninstall and reinstall. But for right now it's all I can think of, especially since I have VERY little details about the error message.

fastfed · 03-23-07, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountainmanUK

I'm still awaiting my copy dropping through the letterbox (Amazon say either today or tomorrow!)...but just a thought.....

Maybe your Antivirus prog is somehow interrupting the Patch installation?
Have you tried closing down all your running "background" progs before attempting to patch?

Hope this helps!

EVERYTHING! is turned off.

leeclose · 03-23-07, 10:10 AM

Heres a question how wellwil the following GFX card run SH4:

Geforce 7600 GS
Memory 512MB GDDR2
Core Frequency 400MHz
Memory Frequency 667MHz
RAMDAC 400MHz
Interface PCI-Express
Pixel Per Clock 12
Memory Bus 128-bit
Max. Resolution 2560 x 1600
SLI Ready Yes

Zatoichi · 03-23-07, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rigidkitchen

When I click on the shortcut the game acts like it's loading and then stops acting like it's loading... I checked in the task manager and it says that it's still running!!! sh4.exe @ 99% cpu load but no window or indication that it's running otherwise

I tried the .exe but again, same thing (although the securom thing came and went)

Really weird! Someone have any suggestions?

Could you post your system hardware/software config?
Processor speed, Memory, HDD Space (free), Video Adaptor MAke/Model Memory?
These things can help diagnose the issue you might be having.
Thanks,
Ichi..

Kumando · 03-23-07, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumando

P4 3.0
1,5 DDR 400
Gforce 6600 GT AGP

The game drops the framerate drastically in the control room when i turn to see the navigator and the naigation map, if i face to the bow planes guy the fps turns to normal. Any ideas?

Can someone help?

fastfed · 03-23-07, 11:14 AM

anything else guys?

03-23-07, 07:24 AM	#46
Zatoichi Watch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: New England Posts: 22 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Here's a trick I do to help performance when I play a game that's a little intense for my system: Windows XP: Start>Run> MSCONFIG Pick Selective Startup and uncheck: Process SYSTEM.INI File Process WIN.INI File Load Startup Items (LEAVE load System Services checked please.) Switch to the Services Tab and mark the box that says: Hide All Microsoft Services Click Disable All (Note: this will attempt to stop all running services, I disconnect my network cable so no Internet access. Not a good solution for MultiPlayer, but OK for Single.) Click OK and the system will ask you to restart, Yes do restart. The computer will restart without all the other "Stuff" just what is needed to make your computer function, and the game should smooth out a bit for you. After the reboot you'll see a message that you're running in Maintenance mode or something to that effect; OK it and close the MSCONFIG menu without changing anything: enjoy SH4/SH3 etc. Undo: Run MSCONFIG again as above, and select Normal Startup - load all device drivers and services. Reboot and you're back to "normal". Hope this eases some of the pain, Works great for my setup, was a MUST for Oblivion with all the mods. Ichi... __________________

03-23-07, 08:36 AM	#48
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 779 Downloads: 246 Uploads: 0	Error Message With Patch!! I cannot remember what it is, but when I tried to install it, it just comes up with an error and gives me 3 options, details,report and ok.. I tried rebooting and stuff, but its still not working, I even installed it on a Cd, and put the file in the actual folder.. It is saying something about a .dll file, and on the bottom of details something about service pack 2.. Anyone have and idea??

03-23-07, 08:54 AM	#49
OneTinSoldier Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver, CO USA Posts: 382 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Well, I can't help much partly because I don't have the game yet... or, who knows, maybe I will be able to help. First, are you running WinXP and do you have SP2 installed for WinXP? If so, have you installed any mods at all? Are you against completely uninstalling the game, deleting the SH4 Programs folder and the one for it in 'My Documents'(in case they don't get deleted for some reason when uninstalling, check and make sure!), reinstalling the game from scratch, and then trying to patch it? __________________ "Variable this is EasyRhino, do you copy? Over." Loud and clear EasyRhino. "Do we have a gig? Over." That's a Roger, we have a gig. Target is painted, start the music. "Roger that Variable. Into attack. Pickling target. Target is acquired and lit. LGB comin' down!" EasyRhino, circular error probability zero. Impact with High Order Detonation. Thank You, have a nice day.

03-23-07, 09:48 AM	#54
Seeadler Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,096 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Did you installed tools from this side? http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...utilities.mspx particularly ProcessExplorer, a handy tool for sys admins produce with SecuROM copyprotection this error. At game start with original disk in drive the SecuRom error (5024) dialog popped up see also http://forum.sysinternals.com/forum_...TID=10337&PN=1 Last edited by Seeadler; 03-23-07 at 01:05 PM.

03-23-07, 10:10 AM	#57
leeclose Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 879 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Heres a question how wellwil the following GFX card run SH4: Geforce 7600 GS Memory 512MB GDDR2 Core Frequency 400MHz Memory Frequency 667MHz RAMDAC 400MHz Interface PCI-Express Pixel Per Clock 12 Memory Bus 128-bit Max. Resolution 2560 x 1600 SLI Ready Yes __________________ “There are only two kinds of naval vessels - submarines, and targets.” Uber-Boot Dev Team

03-23-07, 07:39 AM	#47
Doomgiver Bosun Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 65 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	the error message is that the computer needs to close the game it has send error message and don't send at the bottom

03-23-07, 09:01 AM	#51
mountainmanUK Sparky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Blackburn, Lancashire, ENGLAND Posts: 154 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	I'm still awaiting my copy dropping through the letterbox (Amazon say either today or tomorrow!)...but just a thought..... Maybe your Antivirus prog is somehow interrupting the Patch installation? Have you tried closing down all your running "background" progs before attempting to patch? Hope this helps!

03-23-07, 09:05 AM	#52
rigidkitchen Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	well i reformatted my windows partition and i'll go from there. things were acting funny to begin with! any suggestions though?

03-23-07, 09:10 AM	#53
rigidkitchen Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	When I click on the shortcut the game acts like it's loading and then stops acting like it's loading... I checked in the task manager and it says that it's still running!!! sh4.exe @ 99% cpu load but no window or indication that it's running otherwise I tried the .exe but again, same thing (although the securom thing came and went) Really weird! Someone have any suggestions?

03-23-07, 11:14 AM	#60
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 779 Downloads: 246 Uploads: 0	anything else guys?