GER politics thread

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Tis the next generation I feel most sorry for.

Do not think for one moment they are all cute and holy just because they are "young"! Feel sorry and try to help the offsprings from your family, and stay focussed on and loyal to them, and them alone. Carrying the weight of all the world and feeling sorry for it, is for us Germans, we excel better in that than you.


Serious, care for your family, and closest, worthy friends. Already a big task that is! Personally I do not believe in the good of all people anymore. Reality cured me from that. I now hope for some good in some people. The ratio between disappointment and getting pleasently surprised shifted towards the more bearable that way.

[Jimbuna]

Feel sorry and try to help the offsprings from your family, and stay focussed on and loyal to them, and them alone.

I certainly don't have a problem with that

[Skybird]

I leave this in German. Its about the grammatical style of Merkel'S language, and what it means.


https://www.tagesspiegel.de/kultur/k.../25136086.html


Its the language style of lifeless bureaucrats. SED politbureau members. Political leaders who want to mislead others and want to avoid any own liability, personality, and who want to lull the public, keep them ion a cozy nap, free fromt he brudens of thinking, deciding, wondering. I heard this kind of language when listening in to DDR-TV andDDR-radio in West-Berlin, or watching propaganda news from Warsaw Pact state's TV an radio. Its lifeless, anonymous, designed to offer nothign a thinking mind can connect to or ask questions about. Its meaningless drivel: grey and cold and hollow, like a dead corpus that got burned in flames, and just a soft blow is enough to make it all fly away and be immadtely forgotten.


Merkel was a specially-trained FdJ member who made it to high ranks in the department for agitation and propaganda. Which means she is kind of a trained expert in these things. It shows in the way she handles interviews, speaks, acts. I sometimes said - not without reason - that she lives by the political self-understanding of a SED general secretary and head of Politbureau, her understanbding of "dmeicracy" is not mucz different from that what they had in the GDR: let them talk, call it democratic - but let all control and decision be with us. Give the appearance of diversity, but always keep it on a short line and make sure the only one whop counts, is you. Let them vote, but only like you want them. Its the same kind of language, and derogatory attitude towards others. Even her famous hand gesture - a rhomb formed with both hands before her navel - is meant to distract from her words. So much reporting about that detail that means nothing, but destracts from what she says, and thus nobody thinks about what she said. Did she even say anything ? Her diamond/rhomb is no sign of shyness, and no tick. Its a clever trick, and it is intentionally used. Its the real importan tnews to focus on. A distractor.



Merkel even denied that "nudging" is meant to manipulate people, and a speaker of her wanted to explain that nudging leaves full freedom of choice and decision to people (while truth is that it has the purpose to leave them just the illusion, but make them do what they are demanded to do). All what she does, especially her way of using language, is manipulative. Command and force is okay - as long as it is not perceived as command and force, and doe snot get called by its name.



Zombie.

[mapuc]

If there ever was some kind of education before a voter could vote

Most of what you wrote should be a part of this education.

Markus

[skidman]

If there ever was some kind of education before a voter could vote

If memory serves me right you claimed voting was irrelevant and should be avoided some weeks ago.

Most of what you wrote should be a part of this education.

Most of what he writes is a crusade against windmills he puts a red label on.

[mapuc]

That's true I haven't been voting since 2002 and I have several times, latest in our UK Politics said the best way to give your politicians a smack on the fingers is to either stay home or deliver the voting blank.

Markus

[ikalugin]

I voted in the presidential elections because I think that voting is important citizen duty.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

I voted in the presidential elections because I think that voting is important citizen duty.

Who did you vote for?

[Skybird]

Interview with Lithuania'S former head of state Landbsergis: "Germany falls for socialism for the third time".

Very recommended read, even if the bot translator stumbles a bit. Try to get the meaning of the whole when grammar and sentence sound coarse. The man talks plain and straight and calls things by their names.

And to Germany's shame I must admit he is 100% right.

Not my shame - Germany's shame. I do not count myself as part of it anymore, I feel way too alien from the contemporary Germans now. The stamp on my ID card is just a formality. It has no meaning to me that goes beyond bureaucratic bean counting.

The Germans are very similar to the Russians in their way of thinking and in their mentality. They fit very well with the Russian empire that Putin wants to build. Michail Jurjew quite openly describes this in his book "The Third Empire". It is true that a close alliance of Russia and Germany is inevitable, which is very advantageous for both countries, as Bismarck understood. That's why it will come. The Anglo-Saxon World could prevent that twice, but the third time they will not succeed. As America weakens, Europe will lose its sovereignty. The only question is whether it will be influenced by Russia, a Russian-German state or the Islamic world. Who knows. In any case, it is clear that belief in the EU as an independent force that plays a role in world politics is a joke, albeit a widespread one. Russia is working towards precisely this disintegration of Europe.
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In Germany a strict distinction is made between socialism and National Socialism. This is the biggest deception that one now always pretends that there is a difference between totalitarianism, between national and international socialism. But that does not exist. Only the paint is different. The dissidents in the Soviet Union called the Communists red fascists. And they were right. The dictatorships are all the same in their nature, they are all fascist, they rely on violence and rely on a philosophy to justify this violence. In fact, they are social Darwinist. No matter if red, brown or black.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Who did you vote for?

Destroyed the ballot.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Destroyed the ballot.

Better hope the secret police aren't monitoring SubSim then

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Better hope the secret police aren't monitoring SubSim then

It is perfectly legal and is a reasonably common practice.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Destroyed the ballot.

very good as a cititizen's duty.. now expect to be drawn into the military like in Putin's election spots

[Skybird]

Remark of the day, by Henryk Broder for Die Achse:


"The election in Thuringia next Sunday could cause a small earthquake, yet it is strangely quiet in the German party landscape. If you believe the polls, the majority of the Thuringians will vote for Die Linke, and AfD. No government could be formed against these two together. The totality of all parties of the old Federal Republic would have no majority for the first time.

For the old party system, that's actually what the iceberg was to the Titanic."

[Skybird]

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