Tom Hanks' new convoy war movie: Greyhound - Page 11

u crank · 07-12-20, 05:32 AM

It was almost unwatchable.

It's hard for me to believe that Tom Hanks could be involved in something this bad. Hanks' previous work as a producer in Band of Brothers, The Pacific and as an actor and producer in Saving Private Ryan were all beyond reproach.

One has to wonder if anyone involved in this movie ever watched Das Boot? Or read up on U-boat tactics during WW2. I'm going to say they didn't or decided to ignore basic military history to make a Hollywood version of reality.

I give it zero stars.

Jimbuna · 07-12-20, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

It was almost unwatchable.

It's hard for me to believe that Tom Hanks could be involved in something this bad. Hanks' previous work as a producer in Band of Brothers, The Pacific and as an actor and producer in Saving Private Ryan were all beyond reproach.

One has to wonder if anyone involved in this movie ever watched Das Boot? Or read up on U-boat tactics during WW2. I'm going to say they didn't or decided to ignore basic military history to make a Hollywood version of reality.

I give it zero stars.

Agreed

Becker67 · 07-12-20, 06:05 AM

After seeing the trailer I despair for this film. Will give it a go at some point but fully expecting to be waist deep in bull****. You cannot mess about with this stuff. U-boat drive by wtf...

Been a long time fan of Tom Hanks work especially with regard to attention to detail in the WW2 era but 'this' does not look good. Always a problem when it's a topic close to one's heart.

Edit

Watched it... Howling on the radio - taunting on the radio - Periscope so high out of the water ... Kiss my ass ...

Hollywood garbage.

Aktungbby · 07-12-20, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

It was almost unwatchable.

It's hard for me to believe that Tom Hanks could be involved in something this bad. Hanks' previous work as a producer in Band of Brothers, The Pacific and as an actor and producer in Saving Private Ryan were all beyond reproach.

One has to wonder if anyone involved in this movie ever watched Das Boot? Or read up on U-boat tactics during WW2. I'm going to say they didn't or decided to ignore basic military history to make a Hollywood version of reality.

I give it zero stars.

like I said...'poetic license'. Entertainment only and better than U-571. Also, did uboats harass/threaten convoy commanders on their radios?!!

as depicted in the movie. By that period the Germans knew their transmission were trackable, just not how accurately on 'huff-duff'. I cannot find anything, if there is anything, on the subject. BOTTOM LINE: I go to movies for entertainment, and I was. Bloopers and all...with two gin & tonics! EDIT: I did pickup on the command dialog: "come to port, handsomely"; a new one for me and my Catalina captain/gin-mixologist. Looking it up this AM: it means "full rudder in direction order carefully, without jamming the rudder(s)" My captain mockingly says from now on when tacking...we will: "prepare to come-about...handsomely". Having actually lost a rudder(snapped at the lower pintel while tacking) in 4' whitecap waves, causing much loss of control, handsomely would be good! Thus, Mr. Hanks has taught me something new!! One star!

GinoC · 07-12-20, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfed

I loved it. Yes mostly because movies like this are a dying thing so I will take anything these days. Lol

But it felt very real at least in terms of the visuals. Don't know about the tactics . I mean did uboats really contact the destroyers like radio rose did in the Pacific ?

I wondered that as well. Seems highly dubious.

GinoC · 07-12-20, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by prozac919

I watched it and I enjoyed it. I did not love it tho. Characters are way too shallow and not much of a plot. CGI was A LOT better than I thought it was going to be (probably why I enjoyed it . . . expectations were really low going into this). But it was entertaining if u can overlook the uboats on the surface during the day in visual range of a convoy. Sign up for the free week of apple plus tv, watch the movie and then u can cancel the subscription. I'll probably watch it once more.

Concur, what kind of insane U-boat skipper would stay on the surface with escorts nearby?

bluegoon · 07-12-20, 02:01 PM

I really enjoyed it!

Jonesy · 07-12-20, 04:27 PM

Really liked it also.
I'd give it an 8 or a 7 out of 10.

PurpleCow · 07-14-20, 09:06 AM

Not sure why people are panning this film. I thought it was great!

No stupid side plots, just all naval action and much of it true to life. Sure perhaps subs typically didn't go after escorts, but it did occur during the war. UBoats would often attack from the surface using their deck guns, especially at night. I agree they probably would not do that with escorts about, but I just chalk up to making it exciting. For example the taunting by the German uBoats was a bit ridiculous as the safest place to be in a convoy was a destroyer and no sub skipper would transmit like that as it would give away their position. Heck that was one of the ways the Allies managed to track uBoats. Dönitz kept requiring frequent checkin-ins from the uBoat commanders.

I also thought the acting was very good, including Hanks. I would give it a 9/10 personally.

Levyathan89 · 07-14-20, 02:53 PM

When I saw the trailer, I thought the U-Boats had no watch crew on deck because they were just diving/surfacing when shown. But goddammit the UBoats in this movie actually don't have any watch crews

Iraqveteran99 · 07-14-20, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by irishblue

Just finished reading "The Bravest Man" about Dick O'Kane and reread the portion of John Keegan's book "Battle at Sea" about the epic battle between two convoys and about 40 U-boats crossing the Atlantic. So much rich historical material and Hollywood always has to butcher it. Never understand why they can't just stick to the real history which can be so interesting and engaging.

Oh well. May go see it or wait for Bluray. Hope it is not SJW'd to death.

Reading "Das Boot" for the first time too. Fascinating and scary stuff.

Thanks for all you guys do keeping the history alive.

Its not SJWed to death but the U-boat tactics are very "hollywood"

still enjoyable though, they did not make it for our community that is clear

The uboat commanders manual states that the periscope should not be out of the water longer than a fist, yet in this movie its sticking about 6 feet out of the water. i guess to tell the audience that "HEY LOOK I AM A SUB!" LOL

mapuc · 07-15-20, 11:48 AM

Hollywood know...that the common person isn't interested in actual historical correctness...they want action...a lot of it

Markus

Levyathan89 · 07-15-20, 01:23 PM

Apart from the historical inaccuracies (surface battles...really!? Frickin' surface battles...), this movie is just so poorly made. The effects are mediocre and there's no real suspense as there should be in an escorts v uboat situation. This movie is just so much worse than "the enemy below", for instance.

DJS4000 · 07-16-20, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

like I said...'poetic license'. Entertainment only and better than U-571. Also, did uboats harass/threaten convoy commanders on their radios?!!

as depicted in the movie.

absolutely not. even the very idea is egregious and goes against every imaginable u-boat SOP.

Levyathan89 · 07-16-20, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJS4000

absolutely not. even the very idea is egregious and goes against every imaginable u-boat SOP.

Did u-boats even have the technology to "call" other ships like they do in that movie? Because normally, sending sending radio messages meant sending mesages in morse code as far as I know.

07-12-20, 05:32 AM	#151
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,556 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	It was almost unwatchable. It's hard for me to believe that Tom Hanks could be involved in something this bad. Hanks' previous work as a producer in Band of Brothers, The Pacific and as an actor and producer in Saving Private Ryan were all beyond reproach. One has to wonder if anyone involved in this movie ever watched Das Boot? Or read up on U-boat tactics during WW2. I'm going to say they didn't or decided to ignore basic military history to make a Hollywood version of reality. I give it zero stars. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

07-12-20, 06:05 AM	#153
Becker67 Watch Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Liverpool, United Kingdom Posts: 29 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	After seeing the trailer I despair for this film. Will give it a go at some point but fully expecting to be waist deep in bull***. You cannot mess about with this stuff. U-boat drive by wtf... Been a long time fan of Tom Hanks work especially with regard to attention to detail in the WW2 era but 'this' does not look good. Always a problem when it's a topic close to one's heart. Edit Watched it... Howling on the radio - taunting on the radio - Periscope so high out of the water ... Kiss my ass ... Hollywood garbage. Last edited by Becker67; 07-15-20 at 10:59 AM.*

07-12-20, 04:27 PM	#158
Jonesy Sailor man Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 50 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Really liked it also. I'd give it an 8 or a 7 out of 10. __________________ Including one way the hell out at Pearl!!

07-14-20, 09:06 AM	#159
PurpleCow A-ganger Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 74 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I liked it quite a bit Not sure why people are panning this film. I thought it was great! No stupid side plots, just all naval action and much of it true to life. Sure perhaps subs typically didn't go after escorts, but it did occur during the war. UBoats would often attack from the surface using their deck guns, especially at night. I agree they probably would not do that with escorts about, but I just chalk up to making it exciting. For example the taunting by the German uBoats was a bit ridiculous as the safest place to be in a convoy was a destroyer and no sub skipper would transmit like that as it would give away their position. Heck that was one of the ways the Allies managed to track uBoats. Dönitz kept requiring frequent checkin-ins from the uBoat commanders. I also thought the acting was very good, including Hanks. I would give it a 9/10 personally.

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07-12-20, 02:01 PM	#157
bluegoon Nub Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 4 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I really enjoyed it!

07-14-20, 02:53 PM	#160
Levyathan89 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 147 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	When I saw the trailer, I thought the U-Boats had no watch crew on deck because they were just diving/surfacing when shown. But goddammit the UBoats in this movie actually don't have any watch crews

07-15-20, 11:48 AM	#162
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,827 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Hollywood know...that the common person isn't interested in actual historical correctness...they want action...a lot of it Markus

07-15-20, 01:23 PM	#163
Levyathan89 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 147 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	Apart from the historical inaccuracies (surface battles...really!? Frickin' surface battles...), this movie is just so poorly made. The effects are mediocre and there's no real suspense as there should be in an escorts v uboat situation. This movie is just so much worse than "the enemy below", for instance.