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Old 12-08-19, 05:48 PM   #16
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Default IT AINT ALL ABOUT TORPEDOES; IT'S ABOUT BOFORS

DEC 7 1941: USS TAUTOG, ONE OF FOUR SUBMARINES IN PEARL HARBOR, GOES INTO IMMEDIATE ACTION WITH HER ANTI AIRCRAFT GUNS AND DOWNS A TORPEDO BOMBER WITH HELP FROM USS NARWAL. SHE WILL GO ON TO BE 'THE TERRBLE T'; CREDITED WITH 26 SHIPS SUNK.... DEC 7 1941: USS NARWHAL DOWNS A SECOND JAPANESE TORPEDO BOMBER AND ALSO GOES ON TO SINK JAPANESE SHIPPING IN THE PACIFIC WAR. USS DOLPHIN DOWNS ANOTHER THAT CRASHES NEAR USS CACHELOT! DEC 7 1941: USS WARD, CREWED BY MINNESOTA RESERVES, OPENS THE PACIFIC WAR IN WWII! SINKING A JAPANESE MIDGET SUBMARINE WITH HER SECOND 4" GUN SHOT-FIRST ENEMY SUBMARINE SUNK IN THE PACIFIC WAR! RIGHT OFF THE BAT, ADM. YAMAMOTO'S PREMISE OF A ''BUSHIDO-KATANA'' FIRST-STRIKE ALONG THE LINES OF MAHAN'S DECISIVE STRIKE THEORY IS IN ERROR; IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BATTLESHIP WAR; IT'LL BE A CARRIER/SUBMARINE WAR OF ANNIHILATION THAT WOULD MAKE POOR GROSS ADM. DOENITZ JEALOUS. U.S. SUBMARINES WILL SINK ABOUT 1300 SHIPS; 200 WARSHIPS: INCL 8 CARRIERS; A BATTLESHIP; AND 11 CRUISERS...CONSIDER THAT ALL THE VESSELS BUT THREE OUT-OF-DATE BATTLESHIPS WERE RESTORED TO COMBAT BY THE US NAVY AFTER PEARL HARBOR, THE MATH SIMPLY DOES NOT SUPPORT YAMAMOTO'S INADEQUATELY CONCIEVED COPYCAT TARANTO-STYLE PLANNING. THE SUBMARINES AND THE HUGE FUEL RESERVES WERE THE ENEMY NOT THE BATTLESHIPS..... THE TRUE TARGET: SUBMARINE BASE AND FUEL FARM 10/13/1941 LEFT UNTOUCHED AND INTACT>
 
It is likely the Imperial Japanese Navy's staff carefully studied the Taranto raid during planning for the attack on Pearl Harbor because of the issues with a shallow harbour. Japanese Lieutenant Commander Takeshi Naito, the assistant naval attaché to Berlin, flew to Taranto to investigate the attack firsthand. Naito subsequently had a lengthy conversation with Commander Mitsuo Fuchida about his observations in October 1941. Fuchida led the Japanese attack on 7 December 1941. More significant, perhaps, was a Japanese military mission to Italy in May 1941. A group of IJN officers visited Taranto and had lengthy discussions with their Italian Navy opposite numbers. However, the Japanese had been working on shallow-water solutions since early 1939, with various shallow ports as the notional targets, including Manila, Singapore, Vladivostok, and Pearl Harbor. In the early 1930s, as their Type 91 aerial torpedo entered service, the Japanese used a breakaway wooden nose to soften its impact with the water, as early as 1936, had perfected breakaway wooden fins for added aerial stability.
The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was a considerably larger operation than Taranto. All six Imperial Japanesefleet carriers, each one equipped with an air wing having over twice the number of planes of any British carrier, took part. It resulted in far more devastation: seven American battleships were sunk or disabled, and several other warships were destroyed or damaged. The U.S. Navy thereafter designed its fleet operations in the Pacific Ocean around its carriers instead of its battleships as capital ships. Battleships were found to be less useful in the expanses of the Pacific than in the confines of the Mediterranean; the older ships were too slow to escort the carriers, and were chiefly used as fire support for amphibious operations.
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Old 12-08-19, 06:53 PM   #17
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I have so far one historical submarine story and it's from Denmark.

The submarine - the seal(Ubåd Sælen) was the first Danish sub ever to take part in a war.

The Danish Government decide to contribute to the second Iraqi war.
With this sub, a surface ship, medical personal and some other things.

Some years after the war, there was rumours she had been used in a secret mission, where she had been sent up through the Tigris river.

Today it has been revealed what her task was-She had to monitor the Iranian fleet especially their submarines.

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Old 12-08-19, 07:05 PM   #18
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17 August 1942
USS Argonaut lands elements of the 2nd Raider Battalion on Makin Island.



9 July 1945
USS Cod rescues sailors from the Dutch submarine which ran aground on Ladd Reef in the South China Sea. This remains the only international sub to sub rescue in history.



3 July 1945 02:47
In a first for US Subs the USS Barb attacks Shikuka on Karafuto using 5in rockets to bombard the town.
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Old 12-08-19, 08:44 PM   #19
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Lets do this backwards from Jim's being my first choice backwards in history although the sinking of the USS Thresher
was very important to future ship building programs called "Fail Safe"

I will go with these three important developments in submarine warfare

Number 1

1982, May 2 – British nuclear submarine HMS Conqueror sinks Argentine cruiser General Belgrano off the Falkland Islands.
It was the first sinking of any vessel by a nuclear-powered submarine in wartime and also the first time that a nuclear-powered submarine fired weapons in an act of war.

"first time that a nuclear-powered submarine fired weapons in an act of war"

This is not true and that is all I can say about it.
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Old 12-08-19, 09:15 PM   #20
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1978 published report prove Cookie Cutter Sharks target Nuclear Submarines for dinner.

January 8 2005 Uss San Francisco attacks by ramming a defenseless under sea mountain ending in the death of one enlisted man aboard the submarine.

2019 Nuclear-powered submarine of type AS-12 spy submarine catches fire under water killing 14 crew members with toxic smoke.
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Old 12-09-19, 06:48 AM   #21
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On the subject of HMS Conqueror, look up Operation Barmaid.
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Old 12-09-19, 04:41 PM   #22
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Default Famous dates in submarine history

13 September 1914, Lt Cdr max Horton (later CinC Western Approaches command, Liverpool 1941-45 - The Battle of the Atlantic) Torpedoes and sinks the German warship SMS Hela, the first warship sunk by a British Submarine.

13 December 1914, Lt Norman Holbrook in HM Submarine B11 having passed into the Dardanelles torpedoes and sinks the Turkish warship Mesudiye - he later receives the Victoria Cross (VC), becoming the first RN Submariner to do so.

18 September 1941 HMS Upholder (Lt. Cdr Malcolm David Wanklyn) sinks the Italian Troopships Neptunia and Oceania in a single attack on an Italian Convoy each of approx 19,500 tons - Wanklyn had in another patrol sunk the Liner Conte Rosso (18,000 tons approx) for which he received the VC.
Wanklyn was killed 14 April 1942, he was credited with 93,031 tons sunk, 33,644 tons damaged and had been awarded the VC and the Distinguished Service order (DSO) with Two Bars - 3 DSO`s in total. He was the most Successful RN submarine commander of all time in terms of tonnage
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Old 12-09-19, 05:40 PM   #23
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1.ORP Orzeł escapes from Tallinn on the night of 17 and 18 September 1939.

2. 8 April 1940 - ORP Orzeł sunk Rio de Janeiro troop transport ship, which revealed that invasion of Norway is already in progress.

3. 2 May 1942 - ORP Jastrząb was sunk by friendly fire.
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Old 12-10-19, 07:04 PM   #24
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Agree with 22 September 1914 with U-9 sinking Aboukir, Hogue, Cressy which kinda signalled to the world the effectiveness
of the submarine as a maritime weapon, also agree with Prien's sinking of HMS Royal Oak on 14 October 1939.

The only one I will add is 9 November 1915, when U-35 commanded by Lothar von Arnauld de la Perière (the most successful commander
in history) sank the SS Californian avenging the Titantic!

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Old 12-11-19, 09:33 AM   #25
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Isaac Peral and his Peral submarine launched on 8th September 1888
Narciso Monturiol and his Ictíneo I submarine in Barcelona on 28th June 1859
Antonio Sanjurjo in Vigo tests his submarine on 12th August 1898
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Old 12-12-19, 02:42 PM   #26
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- 2005/03/18 first launch of SH3

- 2007/03/22 first launch of SH4

- 2010/03/04 first launch of SH5

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Old 12-13-19, 05:57 AM   #27
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List of submarine actions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_submarine_actions
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Old 12-13-19, 11:37 AM   #28
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- 2005/03/18 first launch of SH3

- 2007/03/22 first launch of SH4

- 2010/03/04 first launch of SH5

Nice! May I ask where you got the info for the dates?
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