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Old 05-21-22, 07:00 PM   #4141
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https://unherd.com/2022/03/russia-is-dying-out/

A relevant article. Some quote comes to mind...."the gods move in mysterious ways".
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Old 05-21-22, 08:35 PM   #4142
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In other words Putin(reg trademark) is not popular at home, but home is vast.
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Old 05-22-22, 03:05 AM   #4143
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All war is about money. A war without money is not lasting long.

I understand your feelings, I even share them, but the cold blooded mind must prevail.
That's a damn good Quote.
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Old 05-22-22, 05:56 AM   #4144
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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/22/e...gns/index.html


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The Ukrainian Intelligence Directorate reported that in several Russian units, specifically the 150th Motorized Rifle Division of the 8th Army of the Southern Military District, as many as 60% to 70% of soldiers were refusing to serve.
CNN cannot verify that number.
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Old 05-22-22, 07:12 AM   #4145
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^ The Russian has the ability to make understatement
The Ukrainian has the ability to exaggerate

In what they say about the war.

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The Ukrainian government says Kyiv would not agree a ceasefire deal with Moscow that involved giving away any territory.

Presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak, said making concessions would result in Moscow starting an even larger, more bloody offensive in the longer term.

Poland’s President Andrzej Duda has told the Ukrainian parliament that only Ukraine has the right to determine its own future during a visit to Kyiv.

Russian forces have continued their attacks on the eastern Donbas region following their capture of Mariupol.

They are said to have made limited advances towards Severodonetsk – where it is thought they are planning a new siege.

Russia has likely deployed 'terminator' tank support vehicles to the area as part of their offensive in the Donbas, according to the UK’s Ministry of Defence.
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Well.



Russia's attack on Ukraine has apparently been joined by numerous Russian right-wing extremists and neo-Nazis. This is reported by "Der Spiegel" with reference to a confidential report of the Federal Intelligence Service (BND). According to the report, the seven-page document was sent to several federal ministries last week.

According to the BND, the "Russian Imperial League" and the "Rusich" group are at least "two groups with right-wing extremist sentiments" fighting against the Ukrainian army. In addition, the Russian government uses at least one right-wing extremist "individual" for its purposes, "Spiegel" further quotes from the report. The cooperation with these groups "reduces the ostensible reason for war, the so-called 'denazification' of Ukraine, to absurdity," write the analysts of the German foreign intelligence service.

The document does not specify the number of right-wing extremist fighters. However, the BND report names groups and units.

According to the report, the "Russian Imperial Legion" (RIL), the paramilitary arm of the far-right Russian Imperial Movements, has already intervened in the fighting. The group had already fought on the Russian side in the Ukrainian Donbass in 2014 and 2015.

Just one day after the Russian attack on Ukraine on Feb. 24, RIL leader Denis Garieev had written on Telegram: "Without a doubt, we advocate the liquidation of the separatist entity Ukraine." Soon after, the RIL had decided to fight in Ukraine. According to the BND document, fighters with military experience and graduates of the organization's own training center "Partizan" in St. Petersburg were recruited for this purpose. It is unclear "whether this decision was made at the request of or in consultation with the Russian leadership," the BND report says. According to the information, Gariev's deputy died in fighting in Ukraine. Gariev himself was flown out injured, it said, and at least two other right-wingers were seriously wounded.
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The "Rusich" group is also believed to have been involved in the fighting on Ukrainian territory since early April at the latest. In many places, it is attributed to the notorious Russian mercenary force Wagner and was also already in action in the Donbass in 2014 and 2015. According to the BND, "Rusich" was "known for particular brutality" at the time. The group had a reputation for "never taking prisoners." One of the two "Rusich" founders was considered a sadist.


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Putin wants to create new streams of mass migration of refugees to overwhelm Western Europe, to destabilise them. For this he creates hunger in the world by destroying grain reserves.

Mass murder of the highest level, worth to be compared with the atrocities done by Stalin, the Nazis, and similiar criminals against humanity.

Half of them Putin would probably see as a personal compliment to be compared to.
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9 thesis on Putin's fascism, by Timothy Snyder.




https://snyder.substack.com/p/may-9-...um=reader2&s=r


I remind of what i said repeatedly before over the years. I once red that Hitler in an adress to the party in February either 1944 or 45 (I always forget the year) said that he sees no principle differences between German Nationalsocialism, and Sovjet Bolshevism.

Now compare that to Snyder's despcription of Russia being fascist in itself, but being very indifferent and uncritical on calling anything foreign that is hostile as fascist.



Russia not only has no conceptual understanding of what fascism really is - it also does not want to have it, because this way it is free to comfortably and lazily call just anything it does not like as "fascist", benefitting from the emotional charging the term causes.
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Ans another piece by the auhtor that makes me feel confirmed when calling the Russian attack on Ukriane a genocide.

https://snyder.substack.com/p/russia...e-handbook?s=r

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Russia has just issued a genocide handbook for its war on Ukraine. The Russian official press agency "RIA Novosti" published last Sunday an explicit program for the complete elimination of the Ukrainian nation as such. It is still available for viewing, and has now been translated several times into English.
As I have been saying since the war began, "denazification" in official Russian usage just means the destruction of the Ukrainian state and nation. A "Nazi," as the genocide manual explains, is simply a human being who self-identifies as Ukrainian. According to the handbook, the establishment of a Ukrainian state thirty years ago was the "nazification of Ukraine." Indeed "any attempt to build such a state" has to be a "Nazi" act. Ukrainians are "Nazis" because they fail to accept "the necessity that the people support Russia." Ukrainians should suffer for believing that they exist as a separate people; only this can lead to the "redemption of guilt."
And this is the official definition of the crime of genocide as the antigenocide convention holds it.


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Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
  1. Killing members of the group;
  2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
  3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
  4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
  5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
Usually one also refers to the systemtic effort of a state to prevent an ethnic groupo to practiuce clturla habtis and customs and speaking nativ elanguages that identify it as mamebers of that ethnic-cultural group. Defenders of this view argue that therefore you can commit gencoide without necessariuly massacrinbg score sof people, but you can commit a "soft genocide" by preventing the foreign culture's habits and traits to be given from generation to generation, to form identities in the young, you prevent the cultural identity form breathing and have it being deleted from the world'S public display.

Often you have a mix between both gencoide, the bloody and the soft one. Tibet is an exmaple.

Its crystal clear. This Russian war of attack is attempted and pre-announced genocide. And Putin did not and does not hide it, he explicitly said what the intention is, and the intention he described matches the criteria of genocide both hard and soft. And he sticks to what he said and carries it out in practice.

The west does not want to recognise it as such, since recognition of genocide by the convetion implies mandatory legal obligation by the recognising state to confront those committing the genocide, and to fundamentally come to the recue and help of the victims. This is no free choice of states, but it is mandatory by the convention. And this conflict is something that many want to not engage in. Thats why they say the genocide is no genocide, but imply it were something more harmless and kinder, nicier.


Garry Kasparov recently said something that sums it up nicely. He said something like "Russians currently are intoxicated. The cure to that poisoning is a sounding military defeat." That is what all out goalo must be. Not a seize fire, but a soundign defeat. Biden understands this. Johnson seems to understand this. The Eastern Europeans understand this.
Macronman and Bubble-Olaf obviously do not. They do what they can to prevent a Russian defeat.
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Old 05-23-22, 06:26 AM   #4153
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^ some arguments.. yes.

The denomination fascist or nazi have become arbitrary, to be used for anything people do not like or what "violates" someone's opinion. And to blame anyone, for anything imagined, to make some impression on the listening masses. Double rethink at its finest.



Article by a former chinese ambassador about Russia losing the war

"Moscow ’s position in the Moscow-Ukraine war has became increasingly passive and unfavorable. Its coming defeat is already clear.


[edit: i whish it was so clear, it is not imho – but interesting to read this from a chinese point of view. China and Russia did a lot of military exercises together, China also cherishes the russian combat experience, something China did not hav since fighting against Vietnam in 1979.
And maybe it is directly addressed at Putin..]


The main reasons why Moscow is now heading towards defeat are:

"Moscow has been declining ever since the collapse of the Soviet Union, a decline that is first of all a continuation of the pre-dissolution Soviet Union.

It is also related to the failures of the internal and external policies of the Moscow ruling clique. This process has been exacerbated by Western economic sanctions which have damaged sectors of the Moscow economy. The so-called revival or revitalization of Moscow under Putin’s leadership is false; it simply does not exist.

Russia’s decline is evident in its economic, military, technological, political, and social spheres, and has had a serious negative impact on the Moscow military and its war effort.

The failure of the Moscow Blitzkrieg and the failure to achieve a quick victory signaled the beginning of the Moscow defeat. The Moscow military’s economic and financial strength, which are not commensurate with its status as a so-called military superpower, could not support a high-tech war costing hundreds of millions of dollars a day. The Moscow army’s poverty-driven defeat was evident everywhere on the battlefield. Every day that the war is delayed is a heavy burden for Moscow.

Moscow military and economic advantages over Ukraine have been offset by the resilience of Ukraine and the huge, sustained and effective aid provided to Ukraine. The generational differences between Moscow and the U.S. and other NATO countries in the areas of weapons and technology, military concepts, and modes of warfare make the advantages and disadvantages of both sides even more pronounced.

Modern wars are necessarily hybrid wars, covering military, economic, political, diplomatic, public opinion, propaganda, intelligence, and information. Moscow is not only in a passive position on the battlefield, but has lost in other areas. This means that it is only a matter of time before Moscow is finally. It is only a matter of time before Moscow is finally defeated.

Moscow can no longer decide when and how the war will end. Moscow is trying to end the war as soon as possible so it can hold on to what it has gained. This has failed. In this sense, Moscow has lost its strategic leadership and initiative."

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Old 05-23-22, 06:43 AM   #4154
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So you are one of these millions who believe in West propaganda war

It happens I copy some of your text(and translate it) together with the link you have posted and paste it on a friends wall.

Sometimes my comment are ignored, but it happens I get answers like
So you are one of these millions....

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Old 05-23-22, 08:19 AM   #4155
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I do not have the link I only know it have been posted on Linkedin by a Russian named Boris Bondarev

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Russian UN summit withdraws in protest and shame Boris Bondarev, Russia's ambassador to the UN Geneva office, withdraws in protest of the war in Ukraine and reaches out to the Kremlin.

Bondarev writes in a farewell letter published on Linkedin, among other things, that the attack on Ukraine is also a serious crime against the Russian people.

- I have never been so ashamed of my country as since February 24, he writes with reference to the date when the war started.
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https://apnews.com/article/russia-uk...d2b18b6727bf99

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