[WIP] FX Update - Page 71

Fifi · 08-06-13, 12:14 AM

Since last version, i get those huge explosions staying forever on screen

Going to redownload and try again, but maybe something conflicting with other mod

I'm still using old style explosion...but i don't see why suddently 0.22 should interfert...

EDIT: think i found the new culprit...it is my AST...zone cfg no longer compatible. So nothing to do with your nice mod! (sorry)

Fifi · 08-06-13, 04:47 PM

Pfff...it's not my AST finally, i got it again without

Am i alone with this issue of FX 0.22?

Didn't try it in career, but in single missions it's very obvious...
Well, going back with previous 0.21 in the waiting of answer

volodya61 · 08-06-13, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

..Am i alone with this issue of FX 0.22?..

I guess you're the only who still testing the game/mods

gap · 08-06-13, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

Pfff...it's not my AST finally, i got it again without

Am i alone with this issue of FX 0.22?

Didn't try it in career, but in single missions it's very obvious...
Well, going back with previous 0.21 in the waiting of answer

- What ships have you tested so far which are affected by the problem? There is a chance (though remote) that by accident I added some unwanted zones to them.

- Have you tried comparing the two zones.cfg files in winmerge? there shouldn't be any other difference between the two files than the new zone added by me to v. 0.22 of the cfg file, but I could have inadvertently changed the settings of some other zone.

- Is this happening when ships are torpedoed. If so, are you using one of the 4 add-on torpedo mods which were added by TDW to the latest version of FXU?

- Finally: have you used before the reworked torpedo effects while it was available as a patch? Again, as far as I can remember we didn't touch fire explosions (just water explosion), but some other particle generator might have been altered by mistake.

volodya61 · 08-06-13, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gap

- Again, as far as I can remember we didn't touch fire explosions (just water explosion), but some other particle generator might have been altered by mistake.

You're right, we didn't touch them.. because these settings are located in entirely different files..

gap · 08-06-13, 05:42 PM

An easy way to test what is wrong with v 0.22:

- enable v 0.21 => test if everything is Okay
- enable the new Zones.cfg on top of v 0.21 => test again
- enable the new ship zon files on top of the two previous mods => test again
- enable the patch version of the reworked torp explosion FX => test again
- enable any of the torp add-on's, if you used it during your previous tests.

Hopefully, one of the above test will unvail the mistery

gap · 08-06-13, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volodya61

You're right, we didn't touch them.. because these settings are located in entirely different files..

Yes, exactly, but you never know

Fifi · 08-06-13, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap

An easy way to test what is wrong with v 0.22:

- enable v 0.21 => test if everything is Okay
- enable the new Zones.cfg on top of v 0.21 => test again
- enable the new ship zon files on top of the two previous mods => test again
- enable the patch version of the reworked torp explosion FX => test again
- enable any of the torp add-on's, if you used it during your previous tests.

Hopefully, one of the above test will unvail the mistery

Yeah, but right now enabling 0.21 as it was before give me CTDs in single mission

I rolled back exactly as before though!!
Driving me a bit mad actually. I keep trying...

gap · 08-06-13, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

Yeah, but right now enabling 0.21 as it was before give me CTDs in single mission

Volodya is right then: definitely your PC is possessed.
You don't need the help of fellow modders, but a team of exorcists

Fifi · 08-06-13, 06:18 PM

More seriously, half of my mods deactivated, back with 0.21, i still have the problem...
So it's not coming from FX 0.22 obviously

Last to investigate is patcher now...with latest radio patches that i activated.
Trying without...

Fifi · 08-06-13, 06:24 PM

Ok, problem is gone...i deactivated latest radio patches, and everything is fine again with 0.21

So those 2 radio patches are not working (on my rig at least)

even giving CTD sometimes...

volodya61 · 08-06-13, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

Ok, problem is gone...i deactivated latest radio patches, and everything is fine again with 0.21

So those 2 radio patches are not working (on my rig at least)

even giving CTD sometimes...

I've always said - test new mods/patches one by one.. don't enable them all at once..

Fifi · 08-06-13, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volodya61

I've always said - test new mods/patches one by one.. don't enable them all at once..

Yes, but only 2 radio patches with latest patcher...and had to activate them to run with FX 0.22...couldn't know patches were deffective

gap · 08-06-13, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

Ok, problem is gone...i deactivated latest radio patches, and everything is fine again with 0.21

So those 2 radio patches are not working (on my rig at least)

even giving CTD sometimes...

Glad you finally tracked down the problem

On a side note, the radio patched crashing to desktop when v 0.22 of FXU is not enabled, arise some suspects: according TDW explainations, his patches should assume that radio equipment is already present when the new radio zones are not found on an ship. I see only two possible explnation: either the new zone definitions need to be in zones.cfg anyway, or this in another flaw (besides the never ending explosions) in TDW's code

Fifi · 08-06-13, 07:49 PM

All i can say to help you, is my tests were using TDW torpedo single mission (with 1 liberty ship running 5 knots) and SM20 single mission (with 3 boats all stopped - 1 cimmaron 1 CS1B and the other don't recall the english name)
All those boats were like on the screen above, huge explosion from bow to stern never ending...
FX 0.21 or FX 0.22 the same issue. But sometimes CTD with 0.21...not with 0.22.

Now i've tested my whole mod list using FX 0.22 and FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches), and all is fine WITH radio patches deactivated.
As soon as i reactivate radio patch ---> issue back again.

Hope this helps to track what's wrong with generic patcher

(tried to run debug when had the CTD issue with 0.21, but nothing clear appear about the CTD - just debug list ends without problem reported)

08-06-13, 12:14 AM	#1051
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,724 Downloads: 453 Uploads: 0	Since last version, i get those huge explosions staying forever on screen Going to redownload and try again, but maybe something conflicting with other mod I'm still using old style explosion...but i don't see why suddently 0.22 should interfert... EDIT: think i found the new culprit...it is my AST...zone cfg no longer compatible. So nothing to do with your nice mod! (sorry) __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/x1otz...N_V5.5.7z/file Last edited by Fifi; 08-06-13 at 01:26 AM.

08-06-13, 04:47 PM	#1052
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,724 Downloads: 453 Uploads: 0	Pfff...it's not my AST finally, i got it again without Am i alone with this issue of FX 0.22? Didn't try it in career, but in single missions it's very obvious... Well, going back with previous 0.21 in the waiting of answer __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/x1otz...N_V5.5.7z/file

08-06-13, 06:18 PM	#1060
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,724 Downloads: 453 Uploads: 0	More seriously, half of my mods deactivated, back with 0.21, i still have the problem... So it's not coming from FX 0.22 obviously Last to investigate is patcher now...with latest radio patches that i activated. Trying without... __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/x1otz...N_V5.5.7z/file

08-06-13, 06:24 PM	#1061
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,724 Downloads: 453 Uploads: 0	Ok, problem is gone...i deactivated latest radio patches, and everything is fine again with 0.21 So those 2 radio patches are not working (on my rig at least) even giving CTD sometimes... __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/x1otz...N_V5.5.7z/file

08-06-13, 07:49 PM	#1065
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,724 Downloads: 453 Uploads: 0	All i can say to help you, is my tests were using TDW torpedo single mission (with 1 liberty ship running 5 knots) and SM20 single mission (with 3 boats all stopped - 1 cimmaron 1 CS1B and the other don't recall the english name) All those boats were like on the screen above, huge explosion from bow to stern never ending... FX 0.21 or FX 0.22 the same issue. But sometimes CTD with 0.21...not with 0.22. Now i've tested my whole mod list using FX 0.22 and FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches), and all is fine WITH radio patches deactivated. As soon as i reactivate radio patch ---> issue back again. Hope this helps to track what's wrong with generic patcher (tried to run debug when had the CTD issue with 0.21, but nothing clear appear about the CTD - just debug list ends without problem reported) __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/x1otz...N_V5.5.7z/file

08-06-13, 05:42 PM	#1056
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,214 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	An easy way to test what is wrong with v 0.22: - enable v 0.21 => test if everything is Okay - enable the new Zones.cfg on top of v 0.21 => test again - enable the new ship zon files on top of the two previous mods => test again - enable the patch version of the reworked torp explosion FX => test again - enable any of the torp add-on's, if you used it during your previous tests. Hopefully, one of the above test will unvail the mistery