Operation Monsun...Something looks wrong

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Sniper297

No listing for OMv720_Patch1, there is a OMv720_Patch5 which I'm downloading now.

Hmmm. I don't have that one. Patch 5 should include everything that went before it.

Here's the problem, instead of copying the German campaigns into the Campaign folder it installed in a separate CampaignGE folder. For whatever reason the game is not reading that folder. This is Windows XP Media Edition BTW, so it's not a Vista / Windows 7 UAC issue since there ain't no UAC in XP.

That's weird. Can you manually move the files into the correct folder? My computer is an eight-year-old single core Pentium running XP, and everything works fine.

Originally Posted by Sniper297

Just to clear up one possible source of confusion - I'm running the D2D version of Silent Hunter IV patched to 1.4, no TMO or RFB or RSRD mods. I haven't bought the 1.5 U-boat addon.
Does this Operation Monsun require the 1.5 U-boat addon or not?

It absolutely does. Without it the game doesn't even know what a u-boat is.

Originally Posted by mido

I installed exactly as explained here but loading screen doesn't change. Uninstalled the whole game and started from scratch but same result. Could it be that the downloaded files are corrupt? I downloaded them here on Subsim.com.

I downloaded it from there, and mine works fine.

Originally Posted by Sniper297

That's why I'm asking about the 1.5 uboat expansion pack, we're assuming that's not needed for this, maybe it is?

Yes it is.

Originally Posted by mido

My game is patched with the U-Boat Missions (1.5.0.0.0), I get the careers to start in 1939 but no OM loading screen. Something is missing here, anybody else out there playing OM? What should the loading screen look like?

I don't currently have it installed. I'll get back to you on that. Meanwhile, if you can play a u-boat career, go for it.

[mido]

Thanks for your reply Sailor Steve! Maybe we are mistaken about the loading screen? That seems to be the only thing missing...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mido

Thanks for your reply Sailor Steve! Maybe we are mistaken about the loading screen? That seems to be the only thing missing...

Maybe I am mistaken about the loading screen. I just reinstalled SH4 and installed the basic OM v705 without using JSGME, just stuck the data folder into SH4. It loaded with the regular SH4 U-Boat Missions loading screen and everything works as it should.

I could swear I had an OM loading screen before. Maybe I should stop swearing.

[mido]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Maybe I am mistaken about the loading screen. I just reinstalled SH4 and installed the basic OM v705 without using JSGME, just stuck the data folder into SH4. It loaded with the regular SH4 U-Boat Missions loading screen and everything works as it should.

I could swear I had an OM loading screen before. Maybe I should stop swearing.

Here we go...
Nevertheless, there is an alternate OM loading screen in the download section, maybe you were using that one? I will give it a try.

Thanks for your extra effort!

[Sailor Steve]

Found it! It was in the OMEGU 300 folder, which I didn't bother to install.

[mido]

OK, installed OMEGU and finally get the alternate loading screen, cool.
But it changed my game from German to English. Is there a way to get it back to German?

[Sniper297]

Well, I just went over this carefully;

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...13&postcount=1

It doesn't mention the U-Boat expansion pack anyplace that I can find, it also doesn't mention any particular version number of SH4. If it requires the 1.5 PATCH is there a free 1.5 patch someplace? Or does it need the expansion pack and that's just something everyone assumed we would know?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mido

OK, installed OMEGU and finally get the alternate loading screen, cool.
But it changed my game from German to English. Is there a way to get it back to German?

Well, I'm biased, but I recommend this:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1083
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1911
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1529

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Sniper297

Well, I just went over this carefully;

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...13&postcount=1

It doesn't mention the U-Boat expansion pack anyplace that I can find, it also doesn't mention any particular version number of SH4. If it requires the 1.5 PATCH is there a free 1.5 patch someplace? Or does it need the expansion pack and that's just something everyone assumed we would know?

Yes, the expansion pack is the 1.5 patch, and it is only available for a price. The price is pretty low these days, though.

[mido]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Well, I'm biased, but I recommend this:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1083
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1911
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1529

Thanks for the links! Why are you biased? I happen to be trilingual and watched the movie "Run silent, run deep" in English, "Das Boot" in German and Mexican movies in Spanish.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mido

Why are you biased?

Because I made the mod. Well, actually it was created for SH2 by a team, whom I credit in the readme. But I converted it to use in SH3 and SH4.

[mido]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Because I made the mod. Well, actually it was created for SH2 by a team, whom I credit in the readme. But I converted it to use in SH3 and SH4.

Congratulations, excellent job!!!. And by the way, thanks to your extra effort today I am really starting to enjoy playing SH4 with OM and OMEGU. I just got sunk at U-Boot school...

But one more question, please: In the Pacific Theater it was better to shoot the torpedoes at an angle of not 90 degrees. In SH3/ GWX it was better to shoot the torpedoes as close as possible to a 90 degree angle. Is this the same with SH4 and OM?
What I try to say is the angle at impact.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by mido

But one more question, please: In the Pacific Theater it was better to shoot the torpedoes at an angle of not 90 degrees. In SH3/ GWX it was better to shoot the torpedoes as close as possible to a 90 degree angle. Is this the same with SH4 and OM?
What I try to say is the angle at impact.

I don't know, but I doubt it. In real life the Germans had a contact pistol that worked best with as direct a strike as possible. The American torpedoes had the problem that a direct strike could bend the firing pin and make it not work. I think that SH3 and SH4 have it correct, but while the U-boat add-on put the Germans back in, I don't think it changed the way it works in SH4.

I could be completely wrong on that.

[CapnScurvy]

Sorry to reanswer Salior Steve's post's, he's quite right......you need to have the 1.5 version of the game to try any of the latest Operation Monsun mods.

I used Direct2Drive to purchase the added German Missions patch (version 1.5) when it first came out. When D2D passed off their work to Gamefly I decided not to open another can of worms and looked for a CD version of the Gold Edition. I found it on iNetvideo for under $9.00. Received it within 3 days of purchase. I see the price has dropped since I purchased, down to under $8.00 now!

Still higher than buying SH5 for only $6.49 (tells you which game is more desired).

Once installed, "extract" a fresh copy of JSGME to the desktop......copy/paste the folder "MODS", and the remaining files:
JoneSoft.txt
JSGME.exe
JSGME.ini
JSGMEHelp.txt
to your UbiSoft/Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific game folder (or wherever you put it). By all means, open JSGME and go to the "Tasks" menu. Have JSGME take a Snapshot of your fresh SH4 game files. You'll use it later, after loading/unloading mods, to compare the stock game files with the files you had when the game was first installed. That's the only way of knowing for sure if your stock game files have been corrupted with the various ways mods will do. If JSGME was fool proof, they wouldn't have put this feature in it's application.

Download the following Operation Monsun and OMEGU mods found in the "Downloads" menu of this forum, look under SH4, "Mega-mods" section:
OM v705
OM v720
OM v720 Patch 5
OMEGU v300
OMEGU v300 Patch 7

Make sure the 5 "extracted" above mods are in the "MODS" folder of JSGME.....with their mod title name as the first folder.......the second folder should have the title "Data" under each mod. If the "Data" folder is not in the second folder position of the mod, there's too many folders of something? in your extraction. The mod will not install correctly.

The OMEGU v300 mod is the only OM mod that provides an new/different load screen with the Operation Monsun name as a title.

[Sailor Steve]

Thanks for clearing that up, Capn.