Domestic Use of DoD Drones

Rockstar · 03-06-21, 09:53 AM

https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/atp3-28-1.pdf

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Domestic Use of DoD Drones

By Steven Aftergood • February 19, 2021

The Department of Defense is authorized to use unmanned aircraft systems within U.S. airspace for more than a dozen different types of operations, from search and rescue to counterintelligence. These domestic missions, and the official guidance or legal authority behind each of them, were tabulated in a newly updated manual on military support to civilian authorities.
See Appendix 1, Table 1 in Multi-Service Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures for Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA), ATP 3-28.1, February 11, 2021.
Overall guidance on domestic use of DoD drones was provided in a 2018 memorandum issued by then-Secretary of Defense James N. Mattis that is still in effect.
“The primary purpose, and large majority, of DoD domestic UAS operations is for DoD forces to gain realistic training experience, test equipment and tactics in preparation for potential overseas warfighting missions,” according to a cursory DoD website on the subject.

https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2021/0...ones-domestic/

Can't wait to see the first drone reported or photographed flying over some city or being shot at by a good ole boy with a shot gun.

Mr Quatro · 03-06-21, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Can't wait to see the first drone reported or photographed flying over some city or being shot at by a good ole boy with a shot gun.

The future will have back up drones that catch that good ole boy and make an example out of him.

Plus they are finally experimenting with using drones to fight forest fires with ...

This is a good thing

Someday your electric car will have to communicate with a drone for purposes of warning you are about to
get a ticket and then if you don't heed the warning you will receive a summons in the mail.

Catfish · 03-06-21, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

[...] Can't wait to see the first drone reported or photographed flying over some city or being shot at by a good ole boy with a shot gun.

Now that's something i would understand

Rockstar · 03-06-21, 11:45 AM

People already take pot shots at private and commercial drones. Could imagine the headline now picturing some red neck in a trophy photo with a can of 'Bud' in one hand and his shotgun in the other. Standing next to the smoldering heap of a MQ series drone he shot down. 'Merica!

Jeff-Groves · 03-06-21, 11:46 AM

Pretty confident that photo will appear on FaceBook.

MaDef · 03-06-21, 04:25 PM

You all are aware that the DoD has flown those drones on missions over U.S. civilian airspace going back to 2011 are you not?

Jeff-Groves · 03-06-21, 08:43 PM

I've seen them a few times in my travels.
Also saw those Blimps they were testing at one time.

Rockstar · 03-06-21, 09:57 PM

I worked with balloon boats Gulf Sentry and Windward Sentry at certain locations around the Bahamas when I ran FCI's. Those RADAR Balloons would extend thousands of feet into the air and could pick out a needle in a haystack sitting on the back deck of a freighter a 100miles away.

The FCI's weren't as fast as some but it sure could handle the seas, racing across the tops of the waves like as rocket sled. What a great time that was. Officially FCI was short for Fast Coastal Interceptor. But like many government operations they soon became known as the Fast Cash Incinerator.

Jeff-Groves · 03-06-21, 10:21 PM

Blimps I saw were out around New Mexico I think it was.
Probably along 40 out that way like 7 years ago or better?
May even have been back in 2010 or so that I saw them.

Been so long and so many trips!
I do recall seeing them on the way West and then again on the way back East.

Not something you see out in the middle of no where every day!

nikimcbee · 03-08-21, 11:57 AM

If Yeltsin was still around, you could probably buy a SAM network for cheap.

nikimcbee · 03-08-21, 12:02 PM

Build an aerodrome and do what they did 100 years ago, to deal with pesky spy balloons.

03-06-21, 11:45 AM	#4
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,811 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	People already take pot shots at private and commercial drones. Could imagine the headline now picturing some red neck in a trophy photo with a can of 'Bud' in one hand and his shotgun in the other. Standing next to the smoldering heap of a MQ series drone he shot down. 'Merica! __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

03-06-21, 11:46 AM	#5
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Pretty confident that photo will appear on FaceBook. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

03-06-21, 08:43 PM	#7
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	I've seen them a few times in my travels. Also saw those Blimps they were testing at one time. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

03-06-21, 09:57 PM	#8
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,811 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I worked with balloon boats Gulf Sentry and Windward Sentry at certain locations around the Bahamas when I ran FCI's. Those RADAR Balloons would extend thousands of feet into the air and could pick out a needle in a haystack sitting on the back deck of a freighter a 100miles away. The FCI's weren't as fast as some but it sure could handle the seas, racing across the tops of the waves like as rocket sled. What a great time that was. Officially FCI was short for Fast Coastal Interceptor. But like many government operations they soon became known as the Fast Cash Incinerator. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 03-06-21 at 10:05 PM.

03-06-21, 10:21 PM	#9
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Blimps I saw were out around New Mexico I think it was. Probably along 40 out that way like 7 years ago or better? May even have been back in 2010 or so that I saw them. Been so long and so many trips! I do recall seeing them on the way West and then again on the way back East. Not something you see out in the middle of no where every day! __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask. Last edited by Jeff-Groves; 03-06-21 at 10:30 PM.

03-06-21, 04:25 PM	#6
MaDef Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,046 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	You all are aware that the DoD has flown those drones on missions over U.S. civilian airspace going back to 2011 are you not?

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,924 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	If Yeltsin was still around, you could probably buy a SAM network for cheap. __________________

03-08-21, 12:02 PM	#11
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,924 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Build an aerodrome and do what they did 100 years ago, to deal with pesky spy balloons. __________________