US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 496

u crank · 09-01-19, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna

D'ya think if Trump actually ever told the truth about anything, he would burst into flames?...

If so there would be a lot of self-immolation in the political realm. So far it looks like in 2020 it may be a choice between two of them.

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There are two possible explanations of Joe Biden’s inability to tell the truth about things: One is that his mind is failing him, the other is that his honor is. In neither case is Biden fit to hold the office of president of the United States of America, and Democrats would discredit themselves and endanger the nation to nominate him.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...or-presidency/

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The Democrats are ready to go into November with nothing better to say for themselves than, “Our liar is better than their liar!” It is doubtful they will even be morally conflicted about that. But the nation will be worse off for it, inasmuch as democratic assumptions built on a foundation of lies must necessarily be unstable.

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The United States has become an empire of lies. We are governed by liars chosen on the basis of lies, and the worst partisans have begun openly to admire the lies, so long as they are skillfully constructed and delivered. The lowest among us enjoy being lied to and celebrate it. Entire political careers are based on lies — and policy initiatives, too.

Bera · 09-01-19, 09:45 AM

To my american friends here...

I follow Trump´s account on Facebook. And, judging by everything he´s posting, he´s going to win the next US Presidential election by a landslide.

Is this true? How is his popularity?

August · 09-01-19, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bera

Is this true? How is his popularity?

Depends on who you ask I guess. The media has never had anything good to say about him but I heard that he has raised more cash than the top three Dem candidates combined and it's mostly from small donors. To me that's a more reliable indicator of his true popularity with the voters than polls conducted by the same liberal outfits that prognosticated Hillary up by around 20 points at the same time period during the last election.

Mr Quatro · 09-01-19, 11:35 AM

It is not clear yet who the GOP will nominate to represent their party ...
This is a party thing you know ... More than likely it will be the present
POTUS Donald Trump.

Biden, Bernie or Warren couldn't even beat the GOP runner ups for the parties nomination.

It is a humiliating thing to watch the democrats are running on a promise to change the way our country operates with promises to the lower class of voters that we will take care of you when we get into office ... Trust us just vote for us.

It boils down to the democrats only real hope is a numbers game not a smart way to go.

Dowly · 09-01-19, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Depends on who you ask I guess. The media has never had anything good to say about him but I heard that he has raised more cash than the top three Dem candidates combined and it's mostly from small donors. To me that's a more reliable indicator of his true popularity with the voters than polls conducted by the same liberal outfits that prognosticated Hillary up by around 20 points at the same time period during the last election.

Sanders' portion of small donors is 77% against Trump's 61% (according to Fox News). So... Sanders 2020 then?

Rockstar · 09-01-19, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Sanders' portion of small donors is 77% against Trump's 61% (according to Fox News). So... Sanders 2020 then?

It could be
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...lstering-2020/

August · 09-01-19, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Sanders' portion of small donors is 77% against Trump's 61% (according to Fox News). So... Sanders 2020 then?

Except that Trumps 61% is a far larger group than Sanders 77%. 2/3rds larger according to some calculations.

Rockstar · 09-01-19, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Except that Trumps 61% is a far larger group than Sanders 77%. 2/3rds larger according to some calculations.

I suppose its mathematically possible if we assume Republican small donors are a bunch of cheapskates.

A 'small donor" are individuals or groups donating $200.00 or less. Sanders (I) beats republican, democratic and independent candidates. Having received small donor totals of approx 15,282,029 dollars. Trump (R) is the top recipient among Republican candidates with small donor totals of approx 3,986,592 dollars

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...lstering-2020/

Total dollars raised from small donors

The candidates who raised the most total dollars from small donors.

Bernie Sanders (PRES)

15,282,029

Beto O'Rourke (PRES)

5,542,641

Pete Buttigieg (PRES)

4,536,552

Kamala Harris (PRES)

4,420,828

Elizabeth Warren (PRES)

4,229,724

Donald Trump (PRES)

3,986,592

Jeff Merkley (OR Sen)

3,188,911

Amy Klobuchar (PRES)

1,810,614

Mark Kelly (AZ Sen)

1,548,462

Andrew Yang (PRES)

1,434,705

August · 09-01-19, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

I suppose its mathematically possible if we assume Republican small donors are a bunch of cheapskates.

Well then somebody is misreporting something because if he indeed raised as much as the top three Dems, Sanders being one of them, as is being reported then his 62% has to be larger than Sanders 77%.

Rockstar · 09-01-19, 02:15 PM

Honestly I dont know when that was collected, could be old news.

August · 09-01-19, 02:30 PM

Could be different time frames too. All time versus year to date etc.

Rockstar · 09-01-19, 06:57 PM

Now I see one reason why the Democrats may have fielded so many contenders. They need cash flow (donations) to pay off debts

------------------Total Raised----Total Spent----Cash on Hand---Debts

Democratic Party--$201,912,644--$165,718,397----$73,184,306-----$23,477,502

Republican Party--$234,012,843---$198,160,494----$94,754,011-----$3,594,702

DNCmte-----------$51,721,651----$51,276,162-----$9,117,114-----$5,619,077

RNCmte-----------$117,948,759---$94,857,449----$46,592,872-----$0

https://www.opensecrets.org/parties/

I sure as hell can think of a lot more to spend $550 million on than this made for TV drama.

em2nought · 09-01-19, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

I suppose its mathematically possible if we assume Republican small donors are a bunch of cheapskates.

I'll need to find a credit card offer with at least nine months zero interest before I donate this time around. If only I had laid a bet on Trump winning in 2016 at the same time I donated. I should have known that any politician who could actually get "me" to donate was going to win.

I don't think I even donated to Ross Perot.

Skybird · 09-04-19, 05:54 PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...depression-new

em2nought · 09-05-19, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...depression-new

The very definition of the word "obvious".

We are peasants with a king's tastes.

09-01-19, 11:35 AM	#7429
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It is not clear yet who the GOP will nominate to represent their party ... This is a party thing you know ... More than likely it will be the present POTUS Donald Trump. Biden, Bernie or Warren couldn't even beat the GOP runner ups for the parties nomination. It is a humiliating thing to watch the democrats are running on a promise to change the way our country operates with promises to the lower class of voters that we will take care of you when we get into office ... Trust us just vote for us. It boils down to the democrats only real hope is a numbers game not a smart way to go. __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

09-01-19, 02:15 PM	#7435
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,830 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Honestly I dont know when that was collected, could be old news. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

09-01-19, 02:30 PM	#7436
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 22,667 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Could be different time frames too. All time versus year to date etc. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

09-01-19, 06:57 PM	#7437
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,830 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Now I see one reason why the Democrats may have fielded so many contenders. They need cash flow (donations) to pay off debts ------------------Total Raised----Total Spent----Cash on Hand---Debts Democratic Party--$201,912,644--$165,718,397----$73,184,306-----$23,477,502 Republican Party--$234,012,843---$198,160,494----$94,754,011-----$3,594,702 DNCmte-----------$51,721,651----$51,276,162-----$9,117,114-----$5,619,077 RNCmte-----------$117,948,759---$94,857,449----$46,592,872-----$0 https://www.opensecrets.org/parties/ I sure as hell can think of a lot more to spend $550 million on than this made for TV drama. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

09-04-19, 05:54 PM	#7439
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,490 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...depression-new __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-01-19, 09:45 AM	#7427
Bera Gunner Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Posts: 95 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	To my american friends here... I follow Trump´s account on Facebook. And, judging by everything he´s posting, he´s going to win the next US Presidential election by a landslide. Is this true? How is his popularity?