UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you for the answer.

I guess they also will "investigate" where it went wrong and with my little knowledge about parties who have lost big time in an election...they will blame others for it.

Second.

SNP can forget everything regarding a second referendum-if Tories win with this majority.(said on Danish tv)

Markus

It is looking like the SNP will increase their number of seats which will mean that in their view it is more likely the Scottish people will be seeking independence.

[ikalugin]

So, did anyone blame Putin yet?

[Kapitan]

Well it is done conservatives have a majority well above the 326 needed as it stands at 0730 GMT

Con 363
Lab 203
SNP 48
LD 11
DUP 8
OTH 14

2 Seats to declare

[Skybird]

Corbyn says he is not to lead the party into another campaign, but refuses - so far - to step down immediately, saiyng he wants to contribute moderating a chnage in the party.

Political drivel for: "I need time to clean and hide the traces of my crime".

Will Abott leave, too? Hell, that woman is so repugnant even if not opening her sound escape hatch.


Declaration of Brexit is a clear thing now, no doubt.



And after January the real difficult work begins. Until here it was just the easier part. Overture.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

So, did anyone blame Putin yet?

Not yet :P
But I would expect the argument from the more unhinged momentum types "that it 'because of neo liberal Blairite racsist ninja sabateurs' or (god help us) 'we clearly didnt go left enough' < the cognitive dissonance in that one is really quite amazing!
On a serious note though, its sad that some of the Labour MP's unseated last night were actually some of the better and more level headed ones and not the London bubble Momentum weirdos who actually run the party now.


This is what happned in a nut shell.


Conservatives to the working Classes:

"While we will probably fail to deliver it, please tell us what it is you want and we''ll maybe try and do it..... sort of.


Labour to the working Classes :

This is what WE think you SHOULD want. WE insist it must be done this way and you MUST like it, or you're a bad person!

[Jimbuna]

Can't say I'm overly surprised by the election result but I admit anything could have happened.

Quite pleasing to see the list of those who became traitors to their party and those who elected them to serve under said party. (Mirror link below but regardless of what anyone might think of the source, it is accurate).
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...ebels-21088627

I'm wondering what Momentum will do regarding choosing a successor to Corbyn because they certainly won't want to lose their grip on the running of the party.

Much will depend on that choice but I believe they are prepared to remain being a party in opposition if it means they control it.

[Jimbuna]

One more thing, Sturgeon is sure to see the SNP successes last night as a green light for IndyRef2.

This came in last night just twenty minutes after the voting had closed.

I wonder if that will be the end of it all now.

[STEED]

Well it has happen first time in history the LibDems take my seat!

I think what happened here was clearly a protest vote against the former Conservative MP, as this area at general election time is 99% Conservative. I'm sure the Conservatives will win the seat back as this LibDem is barking mad.

On the upside Adolf Swinson lost her seat.

[STEED]

Jo Swinson will step down as Liberal Democrat leader after losing her seat to the SNP by 149 votes.

Ms Swinson, who started the campaign saying she could become the next prime minister, gained 19,523 votes compared with 19,672 for the SNP's Amy Callaghan in Dunbartonshire East.

Sir Ed Davey and Baroness Sal Brinton will be acting co-leaders for the party, now she is no longer an MP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50771123

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

Well it has happen first time in history the LibDems take my seat!

I think what happened here was clearly a protest vote against the former Conservative MP, as this area at general election time is 99% Conservative. I'm sure the Conservatives will win the seat back as this LibDem is barking mad.

On the upside Adolf Swinson lost her seat.

What constituency are you in?

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

What constituency are you in?

Doesn't matter, that will have been Daisy Cooper and your Independant would be Jules Sherrington.

[Skybird]

And it occasionally happens that a German commentator has something like this to say about Brexit:


https://translate.google.de/translat..._11454943.html


In other media however the reinterpretation of the outcome, despite the clearness of the result, already is being driven with a passion. It cannot be what should not be - and if it ihappens nevertehless, at least the violator of the wanted ideology is more or less openly wished a bloody punishment for this heresy. "Congratulations, Brits! We wish you the worst of all futures, so that you end up well-taught in the future!"



British voters are hereby promoted to the rank of "offender".
We have had now TWO referendums about Brexit.

[Skybird]

Questions remain however about the Scotts. Will they seek to split? And will the Northern Irish seek to unite with the Republic?


I also wonder whether the huge majority means that Johnosn must not pay as much attention to radical Brexiteers, making him signing a softer deal with the EU. Would be kind of perplexing and anti-intuitive.

[Jimbuna]

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