Wuhan virus 2020

[Jimbuna]

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Or if we think as some famous soviet leader who said something like

1 dead is a tragedy thousands dead is statistic.

Eh, that was Stalin I think, and the quote was given in a completely different context, meaning to cynically trivialize state terror. Does not match the context of this thread.

Trump may be early in declaring optimistic outcomes, but you can never be too early with getting your election campaign running again. That's why.

[Jimbuna]

About 19,700 people have now died with coronavirus in the US, while Italy's total is 19,468

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo says deaths in the state are stabilising but at a 'horrific rate'

More than 700 people have died in New York every day for five days in a row.

UK Home Secretary Priti Patel fights off criticism over lack of PPE for NHS staff at daily briefing.

PM Boris Johnson needs time to 'rest, recuperate, and recover' from coronavirus, Patel says.

A further 917 coronavirus-related hospital deaths are reported in the UK, taking total to 9,875

India will extend its lockdown, says Delhi's chief minister.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

PM Boris Johnson needs time to 'rest, recuperate, and recover' from coronavirus, Patel says.

after your PM shook hands with everyone right up to his catching the virus it's a wonder that he is still alive

Proves that with the proper care you can overcome the statistics and get better not so with his personal physician though that passed away after he was diagnosed

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Eh, that was Stalin I think, and the quote was given in a completely different context, meaning to cynically trivialize state terror. Does not match the context of this thread.

Trump may be early in declaring optimistic outcomes, but you can never be too early with getting your election campaign running again. That's why.

You may very well be right on why Trump is eager to open the society asap.

Here the the reporter are saying it's because the American economy is crash bleeding and it's like the economy are drawn into a big black hole.

Yes you are right this quote was not the right place to put.

Some of our western politicians and journalist are starting to ask question whether we have won anything by closing our society for the sake of some elders and weak people and they have used their countries last severe influenza season.

I guess even ordinary people is starting to ask question to whether it was worth it-to close the society and thereby sending hundreds of thousand into the unemployment queue for the sake of the elders and the weak people

Markus

[Jeff-Groves]

Just hanging around to see who will be the first to say Trump is behind a
plan to kill off the old and undesirables in society.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Just hanging around to see who will be the first to say Trump is behind a
plan to kill off the old and undesirables in society.

Does this have anything to do with your wife wanting to learn how to hunt and shoot?

[Buddahaid]

Tempted.....but even I don't think he'd want to kill off his voter support.

[Rockstar]

Is there a California, Chinese connection? Has anyone noticed how well California is doing? What did Gavin know and when did he know it!?

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Is there a California, Chinese connection? Has anyone noticed how well California is doing? What did Gavin know and when did he know it!?

It is a little bit different, uh?

San Fran is the closest to NY City

LA is all sprawled out

[u crank]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Is there a California, Chinese connection? Has anyone noticed how well California is doing? What did Gavin know and when did he know it!?

Cars.

[Mr Quatro]

New York State is having a fight with NY City

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...-rest-n1181856

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced Saturday that the city's schools will remain closed for the rest of the school year, but less than three hours later, Gov. Andrew Cuomo contradicted him, saying the mayor lacks the authority to make such a decision.

"He didn't close them, and he can't reopen," Cuomo said of the the vast school district that serves over 1.1 million students in 1,800 schools.

The governor said it was only the mayor's "opinion" to keep schools closed until fall, and that in this instance Cuomo holds the authority on the issue.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Does this have anything to do with your wife wanting to learn how to hunt and shoot?

Oh! Your good!

[Jimbuna]

Christians are celebrating Easter, despite lockdowns that have left hundreds of millions confined to their homes.

Pope Francis will deliver an online message instead of the traditional St Peter’s Square address.

Philanthropist Bill Gates tells the BBC a vaccine is the only way to end the crisis, and one could be ready within 18 months.

UK PM Boris Johnson says he owes his life to the doctors and nurses who treated him in intensive care.

For the first time, all 50 US states are under a disaster declaration.

UK deaths from the virus are expected to pass 10,000 on Sunday.

Some 1.8 million cases have been confirmed globally, according to Johns Hopkins University.

Nearly 109,000 people have died while 405,000 have recovered.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Is there a California, Chinese connection? Has anyone noticed how well California is doing? What did Gavin know and when did he know it!?

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

It is a little bit different, uh?

San Fran is the closest to NY City

LA is all sprawled out

The very fact that New York state was so hard hit is one of the reasons I posted a while back about something being wonky about the distribution figures on Covid-19 cases. Considering the West Coast of the US is the main entry point from Asia in general and China in particular, it would be expected Washington, Oregon, and California would be hit the earliest and the hardest; Washington did get hit early and hard, Oregon seemed to be not badly affected, and California did get hit hard, but not as soon as Washington; when you take into account the massive tourism into California and Washington from China and S. Korea, the very heavy business travel from those same places, and add in the huge Chinese and Korean populations residing on the West Coast, particularly in CA, it would seem logical that the West Coast would be the first and hardest hit; instead, the East Coast got hit first,a bit of a puzzler, in much the same way as Italy being the hardest hit in the early days of the pandemic. A logical reasoning for New York State's very high infection rate could be attributed to its proximity geographically to Italy (NY State has a very large Italian population) but, then , a question arises as to why Italy got hit so hard and quickly out of all the other Euro countries? There's an odd skew in the progression and migration of the Covid-19 virus; it may be significant of something or nothing at all, but it is odd...

As for Newsom, he is a self made millionaire who created a number of very successful businesses and has shown an ability to analyze situations and assess trends; he came up in a single parent family (it is said his mom worked three jobs to support herself and her two children) and he had to deal with dyslexia while attending school; no silver spoon for him. I really didn't know much about him, since he was a mainly Northern California figure; I didn't expect much from him when the whole pandemic started to hit, but he has been a surprise; he is remarkably proactive in his approach, looking not only for solutions to the problem, but, also, seeking out possible future flaws or hindrances and planning to address them before they might come up; I kind of expected the usual reactive approach of most politicians where they wait to see which way the winds blow, measure the political costs, and then react, leaving them most often behind the curve of a problem instead of on it or ahead of it; he seems to be not only looking for solutions in the near term, he is also considering options if a selected solution doesn't pan out as desired and he seems to be also planing for future contingencies; he also has exhibited the ability to pivot and adapt as needs be; while other Governors and politicians fretted over political concerns, Newsom did what he was elected to do: find solutions to address the needs of all of the citizens of his state regardless of what one or another party or faction may say...

Newsom is also bolstered by a state where there have been so many natural disasters and man-made problems over the decades that preparedness is perhaps more ingrained than in other places; there is a well-developed infrastructure of emergency response in CA making it a bit easier to deal with most exigencies as they happen; where other states might have to build from scratch, CA can usually adapt existing resources to fix a situation...

I don't know anything about the current leadership of Washington State, but their swift actions in trying to contain the spread of the virus in its early stages indicates they also have some sort of mechanism for dealing with crises...

Anyone who has ever had an old school sports coach, shop teacher, or has been in the military knows the Five P's: Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance (the military often adds in a couple of more colorful P's to the adage) and we are seeing the practical demonstration of the effectiveness of the Five P's in places where the virus is being mitigated; we are also seeing the often tragic results of "leadership" not prepared or capable of addressing and/or solving even the most basic problems as they come up...

Newsom may not even be that good a Governor; he's basically only doing what would be expected of a competent Governor, so maybe he's what should be considered or hoped for as "average"...

...or maybe he looks so good because, when comparison is made with other "leaders", they are just so damn awful...


As a side note regarding the temporary burial of corpses on Hart Island, the reason they aren't just cremated may be due to legal strictures in the City, County, or State; I recall, aways back, there was a backlog of corpses in the LA County Morgue and the same question came up about cremation; IIRC, the main argument against cremation was the laws mandated a body could only be disposed of by the discretion of the County only after an exhaustive attempt to find next of kin to claim a body; only after it is thoroughly and reasonably certified there is no family to lay claim, then, and only then, is the County allowed to cremate and bury the ashes; part of the reasoning was economic: if a family member can be found, the County doesn't have to foot the bill for the burial and may, in fact, be able to bill the family for morgue services; another reason has to do with religion and customs: if a corpse is cremated and a family member steps forward, there have been cases where, due to religious strictures or other customs, families have sued based on claims the County didn't exercise due diligence in their search for family and the cremation violated the families religious rights; so there are financial and political reasons why a County would want to keep a corpse intact as long as possible...





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