UK Politics Thread - Page 740

STEED · 09-24-19, 07:32 AM

All the opposition calling for Bojo to resign will not wash with him. I bet he will stay put, bet MayBot is laughing all the way.

JUST IN..

Bojo is staying put, so the call will now have to be table a motion against him, over to the opposition it's your move.

Can not see much more today so we can all stand down to relax mode.

MGR1 · 09-24-19, 09:46 AM

A few observations:

1: The Lib Dem decison about not calling another EU Ref:

This simplifies their position in Scotland as they've always maintained that there should not be another Scottish Indyref. Saying yes to an EU referendum was undercutting their position on Scottish Independence.

Swinson is Scottish, after all.

2: Todays legal ruling:

Obviously a case of "the law is a horse/donkey hybrid" when it disagrees with your personal viewpoint.

Tough - we are all subject to the Law, even the Prime Minister.

3: This current mess wouldn't be so bad if, following the EU Referendum result, the Conservatives had decided to make the process a cross party effort rather than a Tory only affair.

You can only move forward when you build a consensus across society. If you can't, or won't, do that then your screwed.

Mike.

Jimbuna · 09-24-19, 10:03 AM

Point 3 is 100% down to May imho.

Skybird · 09-24-19, 10:15 AM

Full broadside from a crew with a history in both Marxism and Libertarianism (according to German Wikipedia, whioch I consulted because the website was unknown to me). What a strange combo.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/0...nny-of-judges/

em2nought · 09-24-19, 10:34 AM

Trump should start some lend-lease to the Brexit side.

JU_88 · 09-24-19, 10:35 AM

I think its fine the Libdems take their Forced Remain /scrap Article 50 stance,
Just as its fine for the Brexit Party to adopt the
No Deal & hard Brexit stance.
That kind of stance is actually quite ballsy and high risk, but it just makes it clearer for voters.

If either actually won a GE with parliamentary majority on that platform, then they would have a democratic mandate to do it to too.
Pretty unlikely in either case though.

Jimbuna · 09-24-19, 11:01 AM

Quote:

it just makes it clearer for voters

Precisely!!

No more excuses, the next general election will hopefully decide everything definitively.

Jimbuna · 09-24-19, 11:04 AM

Lady Hale: Five things you need to know about the Supreme Court president.

No.5 being by far the most interesting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49812379

Catfish · 09-24-19, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Full broadside from a crew with a history in both Marxism and Libertarianism (according to German Wikipedia, whioch I consulted because the website was unknown to me). What a strange combo.

Marxism and libertarianism wow

Funded by the David Koch foundation, some good background:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...och-foundation
Whatever it once was, it seems to be pretty right-wing now https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/spiked-magazine/

Catfish · 09-24-19, 12:18 PM

Looks like OT here now, but the giant Cook Travels is bankrupt?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKBN1W80V4
https://www.traveldailymedia.com/tho...krupt-but-why/

Jimbuna · 09-24-19, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Looks like OT here now, but the giant Cook Travels is bankrupt?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKBN1W80V4
https://www.traveldailymedia.com/tho...krupt-but-why/

Closed yesterday morning Kai after failing to raise £200 million, the government having refused to bail them out for the short term.

Weird thing is it'll cost £600 million to repatriate everyone.

Jimbuna · 09-24-19, 01:19 PM

Just in via email.

Quote:

Dear Jim,

This is an extraordinary and precarious moment in our country's history.

A Prime Minister found to have acted illegally. A political party that protects the establishment, pretending to be anti-establishment. The born-to-rule Tories claiming to be the voice of the people.

Boris Johnson thinks he's above us all. He is not fit to be Prime Minister. This crisis can only be settled with a General Election.

The Labour government I lead will take on those who really run our country: the financial speculators, tax dodgers and big polluters. We will take them on so the real wealth creators, the people of this country, can have the jobs, services and futures they deserve.

It's Labour that will put more money in your pocket, rather than lining the pockets of the multi-millionaires.

Boris Johnson and his wealthy friends are not only on the side of the establishment, they are the establishment. His party's election campaign will be swimming in cash. But we've got something Boris Johnson doesn't have: people. People in their hundreds of thousands from across Britain.

Today I'm asking you to take the next step. Don't sit on the sidelines while our country is taken for a ride by Boris Johnson and the super-rich. Hundreds of thousands of people are standing up to demand a country for the many – why not become one of them?

Jim, I want you to join the biggest people-powered campaign this country has ever seen. Will you become a member of the Labour Party now?

Real politics is about empowering people who don't have a lot of money, and don't have friends in high places, so they can take control of their lives. It's time we asked those at top to pay their fair share.

Labour is a democratic party that trusts the people.

Labour will redesign the system to serve public health not private wealth. We will bring rail, mail, water and the national grid into public ownership so these services are run for the public, not for profit. We will scrap zero-hours contracts and pay a £10 living wage. It's time we started building a country fit for the next generation.

When Labour wins, the nurse wins. The pensioner wins. The student wins, the office worker wins, and the engineer wins. We all win.

I will be – I promise you this – a very different kind of Prime Minister. I want to put the government on your side. Our philosophy is to empower people, not just to invest power in politicians.

The tide is turning. Together we'll take on the privileged and put the people into power.

Thank you.

Signed, Jeremy Corbyn MP, Leader of the Labour Party

Jeremy Corbyn
Leader of the Labour Party

Wouldn't you think someone would be checking the membership details and come to the obvious conclusion that I left the party the day after Steptoe was elected?

Catfish · 09-24-19, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Closed yesterday morning Kai after failing to raise £200 million, the government having refused to bail them out for the short term.
Weird thing is it'll cost £600 million to repatriate everyone.

As if England and the UK hadn't already enough going on at this time

JU_88 · 09-24-19, 02:54 PM

Oh god, when hear about political conspiracies of the 'Koch brothers' or 'George Soros', that's when I know its usually time to tune out.

Jimbuna · 09-25-19, 04:09 AM

The mad house otherwise known as Parliament reopens today and I should imagine the pressure on the PM will be at an unprecedented level,

Surely the only option now is for a general election to be carried out so the people can decide on our next course of action.

09-24-19, 07:32 AM	#11086
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	All the opposition calling for Bojo to resign will not wash with him. I bet he will stay put, bet MayBot is laughing all the way. JUST IN.. Bojo is staying put, so the call will now have to be table a motion against him, over to the opposition it's your move. Can not see much more today so we can all stand down to relax mode. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! Last edited by STEED; 09-24-19 at 08:11 AM.

09-24-19, 09:46 AM	#11087
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 956 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	A few observations: 1: The Lib Dem decison about not calling another EU Ref: This simplifies their position in Scotland as they've always maintained that there should not be another Scottish Indyref. Saying yes to an EU referendum was undercutting their position on Scottish Independence. Swinson is Scottish, after all. 2: Todays legal ruling: Obviously a case of "the law is a horse/donkey hybrid" when it disagrees with your personal viewpoint. Tough - we are all subject to the Law, even the Prime Minister. 3: This current mess wouldn't be so bad if, following the EU Referendum result, the Conservatives had decided to make the process a cross party effort rather than a Tory only affair. You can only move forward when you build a consensus across society. If you can't, or won't, do that then your screwed. Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

09-24-19, 10:03 AM	#11088
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,120 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Point 3 is 100% down to May imho. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-24-19, 10:15 AM	#11089
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,486 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Full broadside from a crew with a history in both Marxism and Libertarianism (according to German Wikipedia, whioch I consulted because the website was unknown to me). What a strange combo. https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/0...nny-of-judges/ __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-24-19, 10:34 AM	#11090
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,262 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Trump should start some lend-lease to the Brexit side. __________________ Looks like we need a Lemon Law for Presidents now! DNC sold us a dud, and they knew it.

09-24-19, 10:35 AM	#11091
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I think its fine the Libdems take their Forced Remain /scrap Article 50 stance, Just as its fine for the Brexit Party to adopt the No Deal & hard Brexit stance. That kind of stance is actually quite ballsy and high risk, but it just makes it clearer for voters. If either actually won a GE with parliamentary majority on that platform, then they would have a democratic mandate to do it to too. Pretty unlikely in either case though.

09-24-19, 11:04 AM	#11093
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,120 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Lady Hale: Five things you need to know about the Supreme Court president. No.5 being by far the most interesting. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49812379 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-24-19, 12:18 PM	#11095
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Looks like OT here now, but the giant Cook Travels is bankrupt? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKBN1W80V4 https://www.traveldailymedia.com/tho...krupt-but-why/ __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

09-24-19, 02:54 PM	#11099
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Oh god, when hear about political conspiracies of the 'Koch brothers' or 'George Soros', that's when I know its usually time to tune out.

09-25-19, 04:09 AM	#11100
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,120 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The mad house otherwise known as Parliament reopens today and I should imagine the pressure on the PM will be at an unprecedented level, Surely the only option now is for a general election to be carried out so the people can decide on our next course of action. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)