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09-07-19, 06:37 AM | #10876 |
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Johnson triggering a vote of confidence still leaves him at the mercy of the opposition to get properly kicked. Which they will refuse to do. So it is not an option in the meaning of that he has control over it and can enforce it.
The onyl thing he can enforce is ignroing the non-no-deal-law, and the legal actions this necessarily would cause. In all other regards he now is totally and competely helpless and incapable of anything, it seems to me. Parliament never wanted the Brexit referendum. Parliament never wanted to obey the referendum's outcome. And it seems it will get its will as long as the legal action against Johnson if he ignores the law is without consequences. It all will cost more time, but I started to think these days that the real action is over and the rest is just show (if it ever was anything more thna just show anyway). Both Corbyn and Johnson now already are focussed on securing No 10 for themselves in the next year. Brexit is most likely already dead. Lame duck sighted in Londown. The trade deal with the uS, likely is another gambit only. The Donald will abuse the British dependency to get a deal quickly by dictating terms and conditions to them., Special relationship is all nice and well, but in the end its money that talks, and the US abused Britain already in 2003 and told sweet promises about economic revenues that never materialised. The British stand was torpedoes by treason and traiotrs from beginning on, first Johnson'S campaign lies, then May's treason. Britain started way to late to play the game the hard way and started to realise too late that it needed to prepare for a time of hardship after a Brexit, and there is still a lack of awareness that Brexit with a really sovereignty-implementing "exit" in it can only be had by a no-deal leave from beginning on. Three profound mistakes, each of them in itself already decisive enough to decide the match, but in combination: being guaranteed irresistably. I call like summin thigns up already and giving a final conclusion. But I indeed think Brexit is over. They will waste more time to lament and to accuse and to point fingers, but I see nothing that Johnson can do by his own options anymore to enforce it. I fear after the US the UK now will become the second heavyweight where the civil society gets deeply split and increasingly polarised, and conflicts widening gaps and trenches.
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09-07-19, 06:46 AM | #10877 | |
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09-07-19, 09:15 AM | #10878 |
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^No, because this somebody then would be accused of having ignored and stolen the referendum. What they are trying since three years - all of them - is to weasel around Brexit by staging just a meaningless fake-Brexit that is no real exit, so that they could get away with having betrayed the Brexit referendum majority by formally claiming that "Brexit got delivered".
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09-07-19, 09:50 AM | #10879 |
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The UK is going down hill fast, possible recession on the way and this Brexit mess goes on. I for one want this to end now today and if it means staying put in the EU I can live with that. I'm more interested in the domestic front than this on going BS. This BS has given those pigs at Westminster the excuse they have been looking for to get out of the real domestic work and fart around with this BS yes BS.
Cameron should never ever called the referendum knowing what those pigs would get up to.
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09-07-19, 09:54 AM | #10880 | |
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09-07-19, 10:01 AM | #10881 |
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Psycho Dominic would say....BLEEP them and BLEEP the BLEEPING law.
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09-07-19, 10:11 AM | #10882 |
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09-07-19, 10:17 AM | #10883 |
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09-07-19, 10:44 AM | #10884 | ||
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Problem is these certain, reality-disconnected, distanced-from-ordinary-life self-proclaimed elites always gamble, and they gamble with other people's assets and money, have other people facing the risks.
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09-07-19, 04:32 PM | #10885 |
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And the hole gets bigger for Bojo.....
AMBER RUDD STEPS DOWN FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND WHIP https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49623737 You just can not make this up...
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09-07-19, 04:42 PM | #10886 |
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Her explanation given is revealing, because it illustrates the big problem there is: she recognises the need to make the EU believe that the UK is preparing for hard Brexit in all seriousness - but she also implies that this is only posing and not meant to be a real option, because now that she thinks Johnson means it serious, she leaves due to right this reason.
Butter-soft "determination" while playing the big game against - not "with", I say: "against" - Brussels. The will is lacking. The spirit. The determination. It just is not there. Its all a babble game when they talk about that they want to bring about an exiting.
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09-07-19, 04:55 PM | #10887 |
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Bojo's next move go straight to prison boost his ratings and a general election victory is in the bag, we brits always back the under dog.
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09-08-19, 04:05 AM | #10888 |
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It's not just the tories having a bad week, change uk looses three of its members to the libdems.
https://news.sky.com/story/angela-sm...crats-11804756
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09-08-19, 06:10 AM | #10889 | |
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09-08-19, 06:14 AM | #10890 | |
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